I think Mike lost his temper with Will's "stupid girl " comment, referring to El. Mike regretted his words though and went rushing out in the rain to apologize. Mike didn't even do that for El, so it showed how much he cared for Will.
I don't get why Will gets a pass from so many people for saying El was a stupid girl though. It was like he didn't consider El a friend. He never took that statement back too or apologized.
Finished the season yesterday. It was good but not as enjoyable as the previous seasons.
They showed way too much right from the start. I would've prefered being suprised by the flayed. Also, having to figure out who is flayed or not would have been fun. Certainly more interesting than gory monsters that somehow
always stop and wait when they have pretty much secured a kill, leaving way too much time for someone to save the day.
The mindflayer has the power to control people, yet in the end it was mostly just a physical threat that also suddenly happened to be slow and stupid. It could"ve simply crushed the cabin right away seeing it knew the kids were in there. In the mall when getting hit by fireworks I don't see why it was just standing there when it should've trashed and flailed around if it cared at all about it's own survival (which obvioulsy it does).
I know it's typical monster tropes but in this season they were frequent and very obvious concessions because a bunch of kids can't realisticly do anything against a 30feet tall monster.
If season 4 is gonna be yet another gate with demogorgons and the mindflayer I can already say that I don't have much excitement for that.
A lot of people forget the weirdness that is early teenage-hood. I think Hopper was fine, especially given how deeply misogynistic a lot of culture was at the time and his own struggle with raising someone solo. I felt the season was a little too action-y compared to past, but overall pretty solid. One thing to remember - as an homage to 80's culture and movies, there's a TON of logical gaps/issues with behavior.
Slightly disappointed that Steve sort of went nowhere (and he did win the fight with the demagorgon in the past)
Finished the season yesterday. It was good but not as enjoyable as the previous seasons.
They showed way too much right from the start. I would've prefered being suprised by the flayed. Also, having to figure out who is flayed or not would have been fun. Certainly more interesting than gory monsters that somehow
always stop and wait when they have pretty much secured a kill, leaving way too much time for someone to save the day.
The mindflayer has the power to control people, yet in the end it was mostly just a physical threat that also suddenly happened to be slow and stupid. It could"ve simply crushed the cabin right away seeing it knew the kids were in there. In the mall when getting hit by fireworks I don't see why it was just standing there when it should've trashed and flailed around if it cared at all about it's own survival (which obvioulsy it does).
I know it's typical monster tropes but in this season they were frequent and very obvious concessions because a bunch of kids can't realisticly do anything against a 30feet tall monster.
If season 4 is gonna be yet another gate with demogorgons and the mindflayer I can already say that I don't have much excitement for that.
I feel like the Mindflayer was specifically targeting El because then she becomes a part of him. I wonder if that meant it'd get more powerful after that.
Physical cleanup? Lots of hoses and biohazard suits. Bury it in the desert.
PR cleanup? Magnets. Weather balloons.
The nostalgia critic has a review of the matrix movies and they have cuts to the news reporting on the bat shit crazy stuff people in the matrix would see. Very funny part of the review. The cause of most things.
A lot of people forget the weirdness that is early teenage-hood. I think Hopper was fine, especially given how deeply misogynistic a lot of culture was at the time and his own struggle with raising someone solo. I felt the season was a little too action-y compared to past, but overall pretty solid. One thing to remember - as an homage to 80's culture and movies, there's a TON of logical gaps/issues with behavior. Slightly disappointed that Steve sort of went nowhere (and he did win the fight with the demagorgon in the past)
I feel like Steve did go somewhere there. He had more personal growth. He moved further down his path of understanding others and caring about them and further from his self absorbed douchey self from way back when.
His ending with Robin really sorta cemented how far he has come.
The whole Steve, Robin and Dustin dynamic was definitely my personal favorite grouping of the season.
It's exactly what a kid would think was a good idea. Pull the covers over your head.
No the characters must perform 100% logical decisions at all times and not the decision a, say, scared kid would make.
But Nancy and Jonathan were there with them. Plus these kids play D&D all the time. If you've got a monster chasing you, barricading yourselves in a cabin is probably the best thing to do if you want your DM to cleverly kill everyone.
Plus they weren't really all that scared in that scene, they were preparing for battle.
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It's exactly what a kid would think was a good idea. Pull the covers over your head.
No the characters must perform 100% logical decisions at all times and not the decision a, say, scared kid would make.
But Nancy and Jonathan were there with them. Plus these kids play D&D all the time. If you've got a monster chasing you, barricading yourselves in a cabin is probably the best thing to do if you want your DM to cleverly kill everyone.
I am not sure I would be thinking about D&D at that particular moment.
It's exactly what a kid would think was a good idea. Pull the covers over your head.
No the characters must perform 100% logical decisions at all times and not the decision a, say, scared kid would make.
But Nancy and Jonathan were there with them. Plus these kids play D&D all the time. If you've got a monster chasing you, barricading yourselves in a cabin is probably the best thing to do if you want your DM to cleverly kill everyone.
I am not sure I would be thinking about D&D at that particular moment.
Well, we can't all be Will Byers
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It's exactly what a kid would think was a good idea. Pull the covers over your head.
No the characters must perform 100% logical decisions at all times and not the decision a, say, scared kid would make.
But Nancy and Jonathan were there with them. Plus these kids play D&D all the time. If you've got a monster chasing you, barricading yourselves in a cabin is probably the best thing to do if you want your DM to cleverly kill everyone.
I am not sure I would be thinking about D&D at that particular moment.
Their entire knowledge of what's going on is because of D&D. It's not that they have to think in terms of the game, but they've been playing it since they were younger. They've all dealt with scenarios just like this before.
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jungleroomxIt's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovelsRegistered Userregular
It's exactly what a kid would think was a good idea. Pull the covers over your head.
No the characters must perform 100% logical decisions at all times and not the decision a, say, scared kid would make.
But Nancy and Jonathan were there with them. Plus these kids play D&D all the time. If you've got a monster chasing you, barricading yourselves in a cabin is probably the best thing to do if you want your DM to cleverly kill everyone.
I am not sure I would be thinking about D&D at that particular moment.
Their entire knowledge of what's going on is because of D&D. It's not that they have to think in terms of the game, but they've been playing it since they were younger. They've all dealt with scenarios just like this before.
That's kind of not how your brain works when you're in panic mode, though. At least not anyone I've ever met.
It's exactly what a kid would think was a good idea. Pull the covers over your head.
No the characters must perform 100% logical decisions at all times and not the decision a, say, scared kid would make.
But Nancy and Jonathan were there with them. Plus these kids play D&D all the time. If you've got a monster chasing you, barricading yourselves in a cabin is probably the best thing to do if you want your DM to cleverly kill everyone.
I am not sure I would be thinking about D&D at that particular moment.
Their entire knowledge of what's going on is because of D&D. It's not that they have to think in terms of the game, but they've been playing it since they were younger. They've all dealt with scenarios just like this before.
That's kind of not how your brain works when you're in panic mode, though. At least not anyone I've ever met.
Were they in panic mode though? They've been through armies of demogorgans at this point lol. It was just something out of character for all of them.
Even if it makes sense for them to make a bad decision out of panic, that doesn't explain why the Mind Flayer didn't just sit on the house and crush them all.
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jungleroomxIt's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovelsRegistered Userregular
Even if it makes sense for them to make a bad decision out of panic, that doesn't explain why the Mind Flayer didn't just sit on the house and crush them all.
It's exactly what a kid would think was a good idea. Pull the covers over your head.
No the characters must perform 100% logical decisions at all times and not the decision a, say, scared kid would make.
But Nancy and Jonathan were there with them. Plus these kids play D&D all the time. If you've got a monster chasing you, barricading yourselves in a cabin is probably the best thing to do if you want your DM to cleverly kill everyone.
I am not sure I would be thinking about D&D at that particular moment.
Their entire knowledge of what's going on is because of D&D. It's not that they have to think in terms of the game, but they've been playing it since they were younger. They've all dealt with scenarios just like this before.
That's kind of not how your brain works when you're in panic mode, though. At least not anyone I've ever met.
Were they in panic mode though? They've been through armies of demogorgans at this point lol. It was just something out of character for all of them.
I'll admit that I'm not the best when it comes to reading others, but the screaming and sweating and twitching and freaking out suggests they may have been fearful.
It's exactly what a kid would think was a good idea. Pull the covers over your head.
No the characters must perform 100% logical decisions at all times and not the decision a, say, scared kid would make.
But Nancy and Jonathan were there with them. Plus these kids play D&D all the time. If you've got a monster chasing you, barricading yourselves in a cabin is probably the best thing to do if you want your DM to cleverly kill everyone.
I am not sure I would be thinking about D&D at that particular moment.
Their entire knowledge of what's going on is because of D&D. It's not that they have to think in terms of the game, but they've been playing it since they were younger. They've all dealt with scenarios just like this before.
That's kind of not how your brain works when you're in panic mode, though. At least not anyone I've ever met.
Were they in panic mode though? They've been through armies of demogorgans at this point lol. It was just something out of character for all of them.
I'll admit that I'm not the best when it comes to reading others, but the screaming and sweating and twitching and freaking out suggests they may have been fearful.
Alright well we'll have to agree to disagree at this point so we don't clutter up the thread anymore.
It's exactly what a kid would think was a good idea. Pull the covers over your head.
No the characters must perform 100% logical decisions at all times and not the decision a, say, scared kid would make.
But Nancy and Jonathan were there with them. Plus these kids play D&D all the time. If you've got a monster chasing you, barricading yourselves in a cabin is probably the best thing to do if you want your DM to cleverly kill everyone.
I am not sure I would be thinking about D&D at that particular moment.
They barricaded themselves as an homage to all the horror etc. Movies that have that trope, just as Alexi getting a center shot and immediately dying.
You know what? I can accept this.
Yep, I was in the middle of railing against it to my wife when I put it in context. Half the show is nostalgia callbacks, no reason for this not to be.
Another thing I realized: this season was one of cementing transitions. The kids are now teens, for real (see Wills outburst, Hopper death, girlfriends etc), the teens are now adults (jobs, end of HS social standards), the adult is now very broken. They can't go back, they have to go forward.
Holy fuck I found Erica irritating last season and she's more irritating this season, I really hope they've gotten that out of their system and she isn't a central focus going forward. Oh wow, she's 10 and calling people bald bastards and keeps asking for free ice cream, isn't she hilarious?!
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Bah they should have just bought it on 4K on iTunes.
I don't get why Will gets a pass from so many people for saying El was a stupid girl though. It was like he didn't consider El a friend. He never took that statement back too or apologized.
They showed way too much right from the start. I would've prefered being suprised by the flayed. Also, having to figure out who is flayed or not would have been fun. Certainly more interesting than gory monsters that somehow
always stop and wait when they have pretty much secured a kill, leaving way too much time for someone to save the day.
The mindflayer has the power to control people, yet in the end it was mostly just a physical threat that also suddenly happened to be slow and stupid. It could"ve simply crushed the cabin right away seeing it knew the kids were in there. In the mall when getting hit by fireworks I don't see why it was just standing there when it should've trashed and flailed around if it cared at all about it's own survival (which obvioulsy it does).
I know it's typical monster tropes but in this season they were frequent and very obvious concessions because a bunch of kids can't realisticly do anything against a 30feet tall monster.
If season 4 is gonna be yet another gate with demogorgons and the mindflayer I can already say that I don't have much excitement for that.
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Slightly disappointed that Steve sort of went nowhere (and he did win the fight with the demagorgon in the past)
I feel like the Mindflayer was specifically targeting El because then she becomes a part of him. I wonder if that meant it'd get more powerful after that.
Yeah, you run from the giant thing that is knocking trees around. As pointed out it was just plot armor that saved them all.
PR cleanup? Magnets. Weather balloons.
The nostalgia critic has a review of the matrix movies and they have cuts to the news reporting on the bat shit crazy stuff people in the matrix would see. Very funny part of the review. The cause of most things.
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I feel like Steve did go somewhere there. He had more personal growth. He moved further down his path of understanding others and caring about them and further from his self absorbed douchey self from way back when.
His ending with Robin really sorta cemented how far he has come.
The whole Steve, Robin and Dustin dynamic was definitely my personal favorite grouping of the season.
No the characters must perform 100% logical decisions at all times and not the decision a, say, scared kid would make.
He also endured a serious beating to protect his friends. I don't think season one Steve would do that.
It wasn't just the kids and they're aren't 8 anymore, either.
It was bad writing.
I disagree.
Any kind of cover is better than being in the open.
But Nancy and Jonathan were there with them. Plus these kids play D&D all the time. If you've got a monster chasing you, barricading yourselves in a cabin is probably the best thing to do if you want your DM to cleverly kill everyone.
Plus they weren't really all that scared in that scene, they were preparing for battle.
I am not sure I would be thinking about D&D at that particular moment.
Well, we can't all be Will Byers
Their entire knowledge of what's going on is because of D&D. It's not that they have to think in terms of the game, but they've been playing it since they were younger. They've all dealt with scenarios just like this before.
That's kind of not how your brain works when you're in panic mode, though. At least not anyone I've ever met.
Were they in panic mode though? They've been through armies of demogorgans at this point lol. It was just something out of character for all of them.
Because it wanted El alive and as a puppet.
I'll admit that I'm not the best when it comes to reading others, but the screaming and sweating and twitching and freaking out suggests they may have been fearful.
Wind can sway trees without making a sturdy house budge at the same level of force.
Alright well we'll have to agree to disagree at this point so we don't clutter up the thread anymore.
But we can all be Venkman. (S2 callback!)
You know what? I can accept this.
Yep, I was in the middle of railing against it to my wife when I put it in context. Half the show is nostalgia callbacks, no reason for this not to be.
Another thing I realized: this season was one of cementing transitions. The kids are now teens, for real (see Wills outburst, Hopper death, girlfriends etc), the teens are now adults (jobs, end of HS social standards), the adult is now very broken. They can't go back, they have to go forward.
Speaking of which!
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