I'm not sure which of you -Tals is further along in your timeline, but whichever is, don't forget that they have Sapphires. Having gems that can see the timeline would probably make exploiting time travel much safer.
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They think time travel is useless because Sapphires only see one result of time, so changing the past is either impossible or unnecessary. Garnet sees possibilities, but that's because of Ruby's influence.
I'm pretty sure Sapphires can see possibilities as well, but the gem empire is just so organized that for the most part there's only one reasonably possible future to see.
I'm not sure which of you -Tals is further along in your timeline, but whichever is, don't forget that they have Sapphires. Having gems that can see the timeline would probably make exploiting time travel much safer.
Oh no that only makes it more clear how dangerous it is
I'm not sure which of you -Tals is further along in your timeline, but whichever is, don't forget that they have Sapphires. Having gems that can see the timeline would probably make exploiting time travel much safer.
Remember that Sapphires are very rare, according to Garnet.
I'm not sure which of you -Tals is further along in your timeline, but whichever is, don't forget that they have Sapphires. Having gems that can see the timeline would probably make exploiting time travel much safer.
Remember that Sapphires are very rare, according to Garnet.
Yeah, but they have them, and time manipulation would be a pretty good use of them.
They think time travel is useless because Sapphires only see one result of time, so changing the past is either impossible or unnecessary. Garnet sees possibilities, but that's because of Ruby's influence.
Nah. Sapphire said she had foreseen the possibility of playing baseball but didn't think it likely.
Well, our Sapphire has had centuries as Garnet to rethink things.
Another example is in The Heist, where she says that the plan isn't going to work, but they should try to change the future anyway.
Well yeah they beat impossible odds. Cause they're great.
It's entirely possible Ruby has an influence on Sapphire's abilities when they're fused but I don't recall there ever being a point when they've said so.
Well, our Sapphire has had centuries as Garnet to rethink things.
Another example is in The Heist, where she says that the plan isn't going to work, but they should try to change the future anyway.
Well yeah they beat impossible odds. Cause they're great.
It's entirely possible Ruby has an influence on Sapphire's abilities when they're fused but I don't recall there ever being a point when they've said so.
Not explicit, but There's a definite contrast in how Garnet explains future vision and how Sapphire explains it.
Well, our Sapphire has had centuries as Garnet to rethink things.
Another example is in The Heist, where she says that the plan isn't going to work, but they should try to change the future anyway.
Well yeah they beat impossible odds. Cause they're great.
It's entirely possible Ruby has an influence on Sapphire's abilities when they're fused but I don't recall there ever being a point when they've said so.
Not explicit, but There's a definite contrast in how Garnet explains future vision and how Sapphire explains it.
How so? I recall both using absolutes and possiblities.
Since I've been talking about time dilation a lot is it possible that being A galaxy spanning empire sort of mutes the ability? Maybe they do use it. Maybe it was on earth to ship the battle towards home world when the crystal gems started to get the upper hand but it became Lost before it could be effectively used. Maybe was used for a while and sapphires innate ability's or garnets expansion of those abilities allowed the crystal gems to fight it?
Well, our Sapphire has had centuries as Garnet to rethink things.
Another example is in The Heist, where she says that the plan isn't going to work, but they should try to change the future anyway.
Well yeah they beat impossible odds. Cause they're great.
It's entirely possible Ruby has an influence on Sapphire's abilities when they're fused but I don't recall there ever being a point when they've said so.
Not explicit, but There's a definite contrast in how Garnet explains future vision and how Sapphire explains it.
How so? I recall both using absolutes and possiblities.
Keystone Motel would be the most straightforward example. Sapphire is openly fatalistic (and passive in the face of fatalism) in a way that Garnet rarely is. Garnet thinks more in terms of actively navigating between possibilities, with the future as a puzzle to be solved.
If Garnet shares Sapphire's fatalist predilections she at minimum hides it most of the time to be polite.
Well, our Sapphire has had centuries as Garnet to rethink things.
Another example is in The Heist, where she says that the plan isn't going to work, but they should try to change the future anyway.
Well yeah they beat impossible odds. Cause they're great.
It's entirely possible Ruby has an influence on Sapphire's abilities when they're fused but I don't recall there ever being a point when they've said so.
Not explicit, but There's a definite contrast in how Garnet explains future vision and how Sapphire explains it.
How so? I recall both using absolutes and possiblities.
Keystone Motel would be the most straightforward example. Sapphire is openly fatalistic (and passive in the face of fatalism) in a way that Garnet rarely is. Garnet thinks more in terms of actively navigating between possibilities, with the future as a puzzle to be solved.
If Garnet shares Sapphire's fatalist predilections she at minimum hides it most of the time to be polite.
She wasn't wrong about the most likely outcome either though. Her biggest error was mostly just being indifferent to Ruby's feelings about it.
I love the idea that your vision (or idea) of the future changes how you see it. So Sapphire sees one guaranteed future (The Answer) but Sapphire+Ruby=Garnet who sees multiple possible futures (Future Vision). And now that Sapphire has grown over the years, she still sees one future, but knows that the future has not been written and that there is no fate but what we make for ourselves. Which is cool because it ties into the whole Homeworld VS Crystal Gems ideas, a regimented life vs a free one.
Man I wished I could have binge-watched all the episodes for this special when it was available because the cliff hangers and the waiting between days is agony and I want to click all the spoilers.
Time travel is inherently fragile. Say you hit the reset enough to win the war. Everything now resides in the power of hourglass. All it takes is someone to steal it, return to a specific point, and destroy the hourglass. Poof, everything after this moment is gone and moot and the war is back on after sifting thru so much sand.
I assume the hourglass wasn't used because the Diamonds were, as far as they were concerned, perfect and didn't make mistakes that needed correcting. And they obviously wouldn't let the other gems use one because who else but a person with "perfect" judgement would know when to use it. Never mind the occasional opposition outlier I'm sure they were aware of that would be willing to work their way to such power.
Still makes sense for them to develop it for just in case and maybe even the FTL travel possibilities.
dumb question that's probably thinking too hard about something that happens in a one-off
if homeworld has access to time travel, which steven and the stevens would suggest that they do, then how the heck did they ever lose
It might have been a one-off object, and the whole building apparatus it's trapped in might have been created by the Gems as a vault to hold it. And of course they forgot exactly what it looked like once the war was over.
Well, our Sapphire has had centuries as Garnet to rethink things.
Another example is in The Heist, where she says that the plan isn't going to work, but they should try to change the future anyway.
Well yeah they beat impossible odds. Cause they're great.
It's entirely possible Ruby has an influence on Sapphire's abilities when they're fused but I don't recall there ever being a point when they've said so.
Not explicit, but There's a definite contrast in how Garnet explains future vision and how Sapphire explains it.
Sapphire is more passive than Ruby. The former is more likely to just accept the timeline as it is, leaving it as mostly a straight line. Ruby is more active, however, so as Garnet they more often act on their future knowledge, complicating the timeline, splitting it into rivers and eddies and etc of possibility.
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So clearly it was useless to Homeworld
you're asking how did they ever lose if they had access to time travel
you're asking us, how, did people who use time travel, ever mess up bad enough to fail
you're asking how did they ever lose if they had access to time travel
you're asking us, how, did people who use time travel, ever mess up bad enough to fail
time travel inevitably ends like this
Oh no that only makes it more clear how dangerous it is
Remember that Sapphires are very rare, according to Garnet.
Nah. Sapphire said she had foreseen the possibility of playing baseball but didn't think it likely.
Another example is in The Heist, where she says that the plan isn't going to work, but they should try to change the future anyway.
Well yeah they beat impossible odds. Cause they're great.
It's entirely possible Ruby has an influence on Sapphire's abilities when they're fused but I don't recall there ever being a point when they've said so.
Not explicit, but There's a definite contrast in how Garnet explains future vision and how Sapphire explains it.
How so? I recall both using absolutes and possiblities.
If Garnet shares Sapphire's fatalist predilections she at minimum hides it most of the time to be polite.
She wasn't wrong about the most likely outcome either though. Her biggest error was mostly just being indifferent to Ruby's feelings about it.
Specifically her "I have the map, and I steer the ship" metaphor.
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Still makes sense for them to develop it for just in case and maybe even the FTL travel possibilities.
I think a lot of little things in the first half of season 1 weren't made with the show's long-term story in mind.
It might have been a one-off object, and the whole building apparatus it's trapped in might have been created by the Gems as a vault to hold it. And of course they forgot exactly what it looked like once the war was over.
And aside from diamonds, who else would they ever trust with such monumental power?
That was my immediate thought as well.
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I'm 80% sure everyone know that The Hunger Games is about pitting kids against each other to the death, by now.
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