Also thanks to Vyolynce 's Akantor Quest I for the Wyvern Crystas needed for my Narga lance as well. Just need a hyper hunt or two. I'll do that right after I get Toka built.
You mean Uklanos? I don't fight Akantor unless I have to, and honestly only posted the Uklanos quest as a vengeance rematch after he cheaped me out with a sucker-punch iceball in the previous run with Aura and Corp.
Yeah, the Ukanlos was originally my idea because it's a huge defense upgrade in either the hat or chest slot and preserves my sharpness super-powers if mixed appropriately.
Plus I sort of missed that fight.
He really does seem to be a little faster once he starts attacks in Gen.
Yeah, the Ukanlos was originally my idea because it's a huge defense upgrade in either the hat or chest slot and preserves my sharpness super-powers if mixed appropriately.
Oh yeah, saw you mention that in Discord chat but was on mobile and about to turn in so didn't comment on it.
My mixed set now uses the Divine Ire Haori (Furious Rajang) chestpiece instead of the Seltas Mail I posted earlier in the thread. It has Sharp +3 and a slot to put a Razor Gem for the final point, making it equivalent to Seltas as long as you don't care about Handicraft or the other skills on Seltas but with a higher potential defense. (It also provides some Insight for my specific build.) If you can compensate for the lack of Artillery you might want to look into that.
Yeah, the Ukanlos was originally my idea because it's a huge defense upgrade in either the hat or chest slot and preserves my sharpness super-powers if mixed appropriately.
Oh yeah, saw you mention that in Discord chat but was on mobile and about to turn in so didn't comment on it.
My mixed set now uses the Divine Ire Haori (Furious Rajang) chestpiece instead of the Seltas Mail I posted earlier in the thread. It has Sharp +3 and a slot to put a Razor Gem for the final point, making it equivalent to Seltas as long as you don't care about Handicraft or the other skills on Seltas but with a higher potential defense. (It also provides some Insight for my specific build.) If you can compensate for the lack of Artillery you might want to look into that.
I'm at 16 Artillery and the 1 from the Seltas chest doesn't matter. I just need to get all the goodies for Divine Ire and then that'll work out fine, yeah.
Then if I ever freaking unlock Hyper Daimyo I can mix Guard differently with the Hermitaur R legs and potentially sneak one other skill in somehow.
Guys, I'm going to be running a tigrex longsword (in generations), and I was wondering what would be a good set of armor to shoot for? I just hit HR6 and I've been using the Bujabujawhatever armor and it's clearly getting a little long in the tooth.
But yeah, what is good to pair with high raw/shit affinity weapons?
tiggy LS has natural white and 1 slot. Razor sharp is usually super useful, as well as AUL/CE+3 which will cancel out tiggys -20/-15 affinity
the dreadking set is a perfect "jack of all trades" for most melee weps: HGE, AUL, weakness exploit and wind press. youll be unlikely to fit razor sharp on this set without an excellent charm (sharpness+ 5 000 slot)
other skills to go for is crit boost and evasion +, if thats your thing for LS dodging. Challenger +1/2 is also an option, but iirc it only provides aul and no auxl now
Guys, I'm going to be running a tigrex longsword (in generations), and I was wondering what would be a good set of armor to shoot for? I just hit HR6 and I've been using the Bujabujawhatever armor and it's clearly getting a little long in the tooth.
But yeah, what is good to pair with high raw/shit affinity weapons?
tiggy LS has natural white and 1 slot. Razor sharp is usually super useful, as well as AUL/CE+3 which will cancel out tiggys -20/-15 affinity
the dreadking set is a perfect "jack of all trades" for most melee weps: HGE, AUL, weakness exploit and wind press. youll be unlikely to fit razor sharp on this set without an excellent charm (sharpness+ 5 000 slot)
other skills to go for is crit boost and evasion +, if thats your thing for LS dodging. Challenger +1/2 is also an option, but iirc it only provides aul and no auxl now
You also won't be able to fully unlock Dreadking until you unlock your HR to above 7+, so that's something you will have to shoot for the endgame. It's a really nice set, though. You are likely going to ditch the Tigrex LS for a Grimclaw Tigrex LS or the Hellblade Glavenus LS, neither of which have an affinity penalty.
For HR 6, I see a lot of folks running with Ceanataur S. It gives Razor Sharp and Critical Eye+X.
Guys, I'm going to be running a tigrex longsword (in generations), and I was wondering what would be a good set of armor to shoot for? I just hit HR6 and I've been using the Bujabujawhatever armor and it's clearly getting a little long in the tooth.
But yeah, what is good to pair with high raw/shit affinity weapons?
Rathalos is a straightforward upgrade. Similar amount of Attack plus Weakness Exploit for free. And then whatever utility skill you can squeeze in based on your charms. Razor Sharp might be a good option to make the most out of the short white, but it takes a good charm to get both that and AUpL if you care.
You can't do a Sharpness+1/2 build or a Crit Boost build with Tigrex, so staying on the attack route is probably your best bet.
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At what crit levels does crit boost become worth it
I feel pretty confident that running silverwind narga (crit eye +3, crit boost) with hidden saber (narga weap with 40% crit for a grand total of 70% crit and makes the increase in crit damage probably worth it from a napkin math standpoint but is there a cutoff where it's generally considered worth it?
At what crit levels does crit boost become worth it
I feel pretty confident that running silverwind narga (crit eye +3, crit boost) with hidden saber (narga weap with 40% crit for a grand total of 70% crit and makes the increase in crit damage probably worth it from a napkin math standpoint but is there a cutoff where it's generally considered worth it?
Here is the only question you need to ask about crit
How much do you want to see those sweet crit particle effects?
For me the answer is all the time so I say always crit every crit crit crit crit
Crit eye +3, Wolf's Maw, Dual Blades means ALL THE FLASH CUTS
At what crit levels does crit boost become worth it
I feel pretty confident that running silverwind narga (crit eye +3, crit boost) with hidden saber (narga weap with 40% crit for a grand total of 70% crit and makes the increase in crit damage probably worth it from a napkin math standpoint but is there a cutoff where it's generally considered worth it?
Assuming you have 100% affinity, it is a 12% damage boost, scaling down as your affinity goes down (6% damage boost at 50% affinity, for example). Whenever you think about a skill, think about it in terms of an opportunity cost compared to other similar skills that boost damage. Attack Up (S) is 10 points of base attack, which is around 3-6% raw damage boost for most weapons at endgame. Crit Boost and Attack Up (S) are roughly equivalent in terms of difficulty to mix and match and gem in, I think. Also note that Critical Eye +1 (another 10 point skill) gives roughly 2.5% damage boost.
My personal cutoff would be around 50% Affinity. Below that, you'd probably be better served by a different skill. Alternatively, it would be a good complement to Weakness Exploit (which gives 50% affinity against weak points).
The difference, of course, is that Crit Boost often comes as a package deal with Critical Eye or Repeat Offender and has a great synergy with those skills.
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At what crit levels does crit boost become worth it
I feel pretty confident that running silverwind narga (crit eye +3, crit boost) with hidden saber (narga weap with 40% crit for a grand total of 70% crit and makes the increase in crit damage probably worth it from a napkin math standpoint but is there a cutoff where it's generally considered worth it?
im bad at math, but crit boost changes crits from 1.25 to 1.40
so in theory it boosts the damage of motions by 15% or so.
id say thats a sizeable diff once u hit more then 50% affinity
At what crit levels does crit boost become worth it
I feel pretty confident that running silverwind narga (crit eye +3, crit boost) with hidden saber (narga weap with 40% crit for a grand total of 70% crit and makes the increase in crit damage probably worth it from a napkin math standpoint but is there a cutoff where it's generally considered worth it?
im bad at math, but crit boost changes crits from 1.25 to 1.40
so in theory it boosts the damage of motions by 15% or so.
id say thats a sizeable diff once u hit more then 50% affinity
It's actually a 12% boost (absolute difference of 15%, relative difference of 12%), since you are normally doing the 1.25x the damage on crits. I mean, if you had a 15% damage boost on a 1.25 multiplier, you'd be doing 1.4375x, which isn't much more than that anyway.
At what crit levels does crit boost become worth it
I feel pretty confident that running silverwind narga (crit eye +3, crit boost) with hidden saber (narga weap with 40% crit for a grand total of 70% crit and makes the increase in crit damage probably worth it from a napkin math standpoint but is there a cutoff where it's generally considered worth it?
I think my last wave of napkin math said that Hidden + crit build was better than Hidden + attack build, and about the same as Tigrex + attack build. So if you were gonna gem in evasion skills anyway it's a good setup.
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At what crit levels does crit boost become worth it
I feel pretty confident that running silverwind narga (crit eye +3, crit boost) with hidden saber (narga weap with 40% crit for a grand total of 70% crit and makes the increase in crit damage probably worth it from a napkin math standpoint but is there a cutoff where it's generally considered worth it?
I think my last wave of napkin math said that Hidden + crit build was better than Hidden + attack build, and about the same as Tigrex + attack build. So if you were gonna gem in evasion skills anyway it's a good setup.
Wut
Silverwind also comes with evade +2, evade dist too, i just didn't mention them because it wasn't relevant to the crit damage calcs
At what crit levels does crit boost become worth it
I feel pretty confident that running silverwind narga (crit eye +3, crit boost) with hidden saber (narga weap with 40% crit for a grand total of 70% crit and makes the increase in crit damage probably worth it from a napkin math standpoint but is there a cutoff where it's generally considered worth it?
I think my last wave of napkin math said that Hidden + crit build was better than Hidden + attack build, and about the same as Tigrex + attack build. So if you were gonna gem in evasion skills anyway it's a good setup.
Wut
Silverwind also comes with evade +2, evade dist too, i just didn't mention them because it wasn't relevant to the crit damage calcs
I meant, like, if your alternative to the Silverwend set is a Tigrex weapon in Rathalos armor with an Evasion charm+gems. If you didn't care about the evasion and the alternative was devoting a mixed set, charm, and gems 100% to damage, then the Silverwind setup couldn't compete. But obviously the Evade + Evade Distance is part of the value proposition.
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At what crit levels does crit boost become worth it
I feel pretty confident that running silverwind narga (crit eye +3, crit boost) with hidden saber (narga weap with 40% crit for a grand total of 70% crit and makes the increase in crit damage probably worth it from a napkin math standpoint but is there a cutoff where it's generally considered worth it?
I think my last wave of napkin math said that Hidden + crit build was better than Hidden + attack build, and about the same as Tigrex + attack build. So if you were gonna gem in evasion skills anyway it's a good setup.
Wut
Silverwind also comes with evade +2, evade dist too, i just didn't mention them because it wasn't relevant to the crit damage calcs
I meant, like, if your alternative to the Silverwend set is a Tigrex weapon in Rathalos armor with an Evasion charm+gems. If you didn't care about the evasion and the alternative was devoting a mixed set, charm, and gems 100% to damage, then the Silverwind setup couldn't compete. But obviously the Evade + Evade Distance is part of the value proposition.
Oh sure, yeah
I didn't think about it in that way because i already have silverwind maxed out and i would rather look like a badass ninja rolling through shit than do somewhat more damage
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Yeah, the Ukanlos was originally my idea because it's a huge defense upgrade in either the hat or chest slot and preserves my sharpness super-powers if mixed appropriately.
Plus I sort of missed that fight.
He really does seem to be a little faster once he starts attacks in Gen.
Oh yeah, saw you mention that in Discord chat but was on mobile and about to turn in so didn't comment on it.
My mixed set now uses the Divine Ire Haori (Furious Rajang) chestpiece instead of the Seltas Mail I posted earlier in the thread. It has Sharp +3 and a slot to put a Razor Gem for the final point, making it equivalent to Seltas as long as you don't care about Handicraft or the other skills on Seltas but with a higher potential defense. (It also provides some Insight for my specific build.) If you can compensate for the lack of Artillery you might want to look into that.
I'm at 16 Artillery and the 1 from the Seltas chest doesn't matter. I just need to get all the goodies for Divine Ire and then that'll work out fine, yeah.
Then if I ever freaking unlock Hyper Daimyo I can mix Guard differently with the Hermitaur R legs and potentially sneak one other skill in somehow.
Fire/Ice/Lightning/WaterAtk+2, Ammo Saver, and TrueShot Up. I'm very excited.
I should be able to stay between 60-100% affinity. Most of the time I'll be over 85%
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Gotta clear the Village Teostra for that. Not fun, but not impossible either.
I can't get them to offer it to me! Still!
I'd wreck it immediately if they did.
That 3 slot chest looks pretty nice. I'd farm him for a bit sometime and I have him unlocked.
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Weird. Have you done everything else Armory Granny (Pokke) has asked?
Why can't every armor piece have 3 slots and inherent skill points so i can have a sharpness +2, hge, wind res, attack up, crit eye +3, crit boost set
That being said who wants to farm akantor tallfangs with me later today
I could swear I got a request from her at one point, but it's not in the log, so I must be missing some kind of prereq.
Given the increasingly ridiculous and Hub-based nature of the requests I do have, I'm mostly just confused.
tiggy LS has natural white and 1 slot. Razor sharp is usually super useful, as well as AUL/CE+3 which will cancel out tiggys -20/-15 affinity
the dreadking set is a perfect "jack of all trades" for most melee weps: HGE, AUL, weakness exploit and wind press. youll be unlikely to fit razor sharp on this set without an excellent charm (sharpness+ 5 000 slot)
other skills to go for is crit boost and evasion +, if thats your thing for LS dodging. Challenger +1/2 is also an option, but iirc it only provides aul and no auxl now
IIRC one of her requests isn't a hunt, it's a Trader thing where you have to get Hyper Extracts.
Looking rediculous has never stopped me before.
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For HR 6, I see a lot of folks running with Ceanataur S. It gives Razor Sharp and Critical Eye+X.
edit: I actually am still wearing it until other things I am working on get made.
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I will check on that immediately when I get home. I could've sworn I did it.
So many kirins and other advanced requests died unnecessarily!
But they did let me make some pretty dope other weapons to toy with so I don't feel bad.
No Kirin dies unnecessarily.
I need ragehair though, apparently, to get my armor to level 6. Despite the massive amount of bear slaying, I only got four ragehairs.
I'm down for more Redhelm killing tonight. We need to level it from 7-> 10.
My wife was watching most of those fights, and everytime he buttstomped us and one of us carted (i.e. me) she laughed uproariously
dangit wife :[
Flying buttstomp carts are literally the best part about Redhelm. Shit is hilarious.
Coincidentally, those are some of the only Deviant armor sets I want to make
Maybe snowbaron because of the lolz appearance of the set (and to play around with more aerial style)
You can't do a Sharpness+1/2 build or a Crit Boost build with Tigrex, so staying on the attack route is probably your best bet.
I feel pretty confident that running silverwind narga (crit eye +3, crit boost) with hidden saber (narga weap with 40% crit for a grand total of 70% crit and makes the increase in crit damage probably worth it from a napkin math standpoint but is there a cutoff where it's generally considered worth it?
Here is the only question you need to ask about crit
How much do you want to see those sweet crit particle effects?
For me the answer is all the time so I say always crit every crit crit crit crit
Crit eye +3, Wolf's Maw, Dual Blades means ALL THE FLASH CUTS
My personal cutoff would be around 50% Affinity. Below that, you'd probably be better served by a different skill. Alternatively, it would be a good complement to Weakness Exploit (which gives 50% affinity against weak points).
The difference, of course, is that Crit Boost often comes as a package deal with Critical Eye or Repeat Offender and has a great synergy with those skills.
im bad at math, but crit boost changes crits from 1.25 to 1.40
so in theory it boosts the damage of motions by 15% or so.
id say thats a sizeable diff once u hit more then 50% affinity
Swap out .4 with .25 if you don't have Critical boost.
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But whats the formula to show how rad the crit flashes look?
Solve for awesome.
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Silverwind also comes with evade +2, evade dist too, i just didn't mention them because it wasn't relevant to the crit damage calcs
Oh sure, yeah
I didn't think about it in that way because i already have silverwind maxed out and i would rather look like a badass ninja rolling through shit than do somewhat more damage