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    klemmingklemming Registered User regular
    They patched the save thing, didn't they?

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    klemming wrote: »
    They patched the save thing, didn't they?

    On PC. Siralis is playing on Xbox and they only get 11 save slots.

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    evilbobevilbob RADELAIDERegistered User regular
    I'm kinda wondering if some of the no alarms failing is down to other things. Like maybe the cop drones going nuts if you turn them on the fake checkpoint, or that sliver of restricted area that remains by the door even when you're allowed to go downstairs in sobchak security.

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    evilbob wrote: »
    I'm kinda wondering if some of the no alarms failing is down to other things. Like maybe the cop drones going nuts if you turn them on the fake checkpoint, or that sliver of restricted area that remains by the door even when you're allowed to go downstairs in sobchak security.

    Not sure about the former but that's the only thing I can think of that broke Foxiest for me in my first playthrough.

    The latter - absolutely, if it leads you to being seen. You can cloak or stealth past it though and then no.

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    OrcaOrca Also known as Espressosaurus WrexRegistered User regular
    Sirialis wrote: »
    ... Sure would be nice if I had more save slots.

    Didn't they fix that? Or was that only for the Steam version?

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    SirialisSirialis of the Halite Throne. Registered User regular
    edited September 2016
    Only for Steam, consoles are unaffected.

    I still havent played the DLC because I dont have 4 saves to delete in order to play it.

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    OrcaOrca Also known as Espressosaurus WrexRegistered User regular
    Sirialis wrote: »
    Only for Steam, consoles are unaffected.

    I still havent played the DLC because I dont have 4 saves to delete in order to play it.

    Lame!

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    HamHamJHamHamJ Registered User regular
    I have to say, I can't imagine why you would need even 10 saves.

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    SirialisSirialis of the Halite Throne. Registered User regular
    edited September 2016
    Because of Gamebreaking bugs for example, which I already have experienced 3 different kinds of.

    Other than that I like saving at every single part, if I missed something crucial, so I dont have to backtrack for hours.

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited September 2016
    HamHamJ wrote: »
    I have to say, I can't imagine why you would need even 10 saves.

    I have to say, I can't imagine why your lack of imagination is relevant to this topic.

    I really hate this kind of response. Some people like to save a lot. And given the massive increase in amount of personal disk space and the fact that a lot of exploratory open world games allow you to save a lot, it's become a standard feature.

    After they fixed the save limitation issue on Steam, I have somewhere around 600 saves, and I was already 2/3 through my playthrough. Are you going to look down on me for that? Because your "I have to say..." blah blah blah sure sounds like it.

    I don't mean to sound so agressive, but this is a huge pet peeve of mine. I don't know what you expect to accomplish with a comment like that. You're criticizing another person's single player behavior. I fail to see what purpose that is meant to serve.

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    HefflingHeffling No Pic EverRegistered User regular
    He could also be communicating that he doesn't understand your position, but would like to know more. The "I have to say" comment can be taken as passive-aggressive, but it may not be intended to be. I could just be an idiom he uses.

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    SirialisSirialis of the Halite Throne. Registered User regular
    edited September 2016
    I still think the Micro stuff is bullshit, but the save thing annoys me every single time I boot up the game, I put a ton of exploring time into games like this and I like to look everything thoroughly through.

    I have a terabyte of space, what is the problem? I dont care about Cloud Saves either, let them just be local save files.

    EDIT: That said, I'm at the GARM Facility and my desire to look everything through is dwindling...

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    Sirialis wrote: »
    I still think the Micro stuff is bullshit, but the save thing annoys me every single time I boot up the game, I put a ton of exploring time into games like this and I like to look everything thoroughly through.

    I have a terabyte of space, what is the problem? I dont care about Cloud Saves either, let them just be local save files.

    EDIT: That said, I'm at the GARM Facility and my desire to look everything through is dwindling...

    That's where I stopped. I explored everything in Hangar 1 and then more or less skipped Hangar 2 and kept my exploration very short thereafter.

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    FreiFrei A French Prometheus Unbound DeadwoodRegistered User regular
    edited September 2016
    So I just did an entire bank heist, all the way down to the corporate underground vaults, and goddamn that was incredible. The bottom of everything is such a huge information payoff. And it wasn't prompted, I just did it to see if I could and went by clues in the environment.

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    evilthecatevilthecat Registered User regular
    I'm like, 37 pages too late, but someone was complaining about the lamp puzzle in the bank...

    if you read the emails on the pc on the far desk in the room it tells you the solution!

    tip.. tip.. TALLY.. HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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    SirialisSirialis of the Halite Throne. Registered User regular
    edited September 2016
    I thought the lamp puzzle was cool.

    Basically a boon for me since it rewards being thorough, otherwise you'll just grab that other evidence and be none the wiser.

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    FreiFrei A French Prometheus Unbound DeadwoodRegistered User regular
    Yeah the email tells you exactly what to do. i still just mashed buttons, though. I spent all my sleuthing up reading names, tracking down vault cards, manipulating security and etc.

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    SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    If you start mashing buttons before you read the email, good luck solving it again

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    Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Alexandria, VARegistered User regular
    This is why you save frequently. And thank you to whoever made 100+ saves on PC possible.

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    Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Alexandria, VARegistered User regular
    Drez wrote: »
    evilbob wrote: »
    I'm kinda wondering if some of the no alarms failing is down to other things. Like maybe the cop drones going nuts if you turn them on the fake checkpoint, or that sliver of restricted area that remains by the door even when you're allowed to go downstairs in sobchak security.

    Not sure about the former but that's the only thing I can think of that broke Foxiest for me in my first playthrough.

    The latter - absolutely, if it leads you to being seen. You can cloak or stealth past it though and then no.

    What. I already went there, and the camera was yellow but otherwise did nothing. And I've subsequently gone to and returned from Golem City.

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    SirialisSirialis of the Halite Throne. Registered User regular
    Nice mousepad you got there Mr. badguy.

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    SirialisSirialis of the Halite Throne. Registered User regular
    edited September 2016
    Okay, finished GARM and I did not see any mission notifications as in "Getting things done", "Smooth Operator" or anything really, my XP bar came up and got a boost after going to Prague again and thats it...

    I have no idea if Foxiest is still possible.

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    BRIAN BLESSEDBRIAN BLESSED Maybe you aren't SPEAKING LOUDLY ENOUGHHH Registered User regular
    The bank heist is pretty great. I had a jolly old time breaking into most of the bank early on with the Samizdat mission, when I went for the main objective and decided to explore the rest anyway. Didn't get around to the late-game mission critical stuff but raided the other smaller vaults and that was pretty amazingly huge.

    I only wish there was more dialogue options to navigate the resticted areas (the messenger dialogue stuff was a super cool addition to the game though), just to reinforce the sense of corporate espionage. Like, just smooth talk your way through the entire place until you have a thousand hats and half the people there think you own the place :P

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    SirialisSirialis of the Halite Throne. Registered User regular
    edited September 2016
    Supposedly a good way of telling if you've had an alarm is to actually get one, if you get the tutorial hints about what to do - Its your first alarm.

    I just tried reloading an earlier save and getting an alarm in GARM on the last 3 dudes, just before meeting the pilot at the end - Tutorial showed up.

    In Prague... It does not show up... What the fuck.

    I mean, the police should be able to activate an alarm right?

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    RamiRami Registered User regular
    I just finished my Foxiest run and I did not get any smooth operator bonus during GARM. There's a lot of other places it won't show either.

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    Drez wrote: »
    evilbob wrote: »
    I'm kinda wondering if some of the no alarms failing is down to other things. Like maybe the cop drones going nuts if you turn them on the fake checkpoint, or that sliver of restricted area that remains by the door even when you're allowed to go downstairs in sobchak security.

    Not sure about the former but that's the only thing I can think of that broke Foxiest for me in my first playthrough.

    The latter - absolutely, if it leads you to being seen. You can cloak or stealth past it though and then no.

    What. I already went there, and the camera was yellow but otherwise did nothing. And I've subsequently gone to and returned from Golem City.

    Sorry, I should have been more accurate. By "seen" I meant if you enter the restricted area and are seen it can cause an alarm. Just going yellow isn't an alarm status.

    My point is that restricted sliver acts like any other restricted area. It *can* lead to an alarmed status, which can break Foxiest. But it probably won't.

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited September 2016
    Edit whoops

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    Rami wrote: »
    I just finished my Foxiest run and I did not get any smooth operator bonus during GARM. There's a lot of other places it won't show either.

    It will pop when you talk to
    Miller

    In M14 if you earned it in GARM.

    From GameFAQs - a short list on smooth operator behavior:
    <cite>TheJackyl posted...</cite>
    <quote>Followed this, and got Foxiest
    <cite>defster posted...</cite>
    <blockquote>Btw, i made some notes in notepad while playing. Only read it if you're on NG+ to avoid spoilers.

    <s>
    M3: ghost (once you reach the red book)
    M5: ghost, smooth operator (once you get the DSD device)
    M7: ghost, smooth operator (when meeting Sokol)
    ghost, smooth operator (getting deeper into ARC, with two augs talking)
    ghost, smooth operator (taking elevator to Rucker)
    smooth operator (leaving helicopter when returning to Prague)
    M9: did not get any bonuses post-mission. (still, make sure not to trigger alarms)
    M10: ghost (after leaving Janus meeting. must return the same way you entered - sewers triggers auto-alarm)
    M11: no bonuses at all (church mission has no alarms, unable to get ghost)
    M13: GARM, no bonus given during mission (do NOT contact Miller in the beginning)
    M14: ghost, smooth operator when talking to Miller, before starting the actual mission (reward for M13)
    M14 main: did not receive any bonuses
    M15/M16: ghost, smooth operator x2. Kill all guards and talk to Miller to avoid the alarm.
    = got Foxiest on 2nd NG+ attempt.
    </s></blockquote>

    As for "I Never Asked For This" Save often, and if you get killed, force close the game before the animation finishes, and your save will not be erased.

    EDIT: Make sure you don't cross the lasers, or get spotted in the NSN, even though nothing happens, and you aren't penalized, it voids the trophy as well


    I can personally confirm a lot of that. And I do have Foxiest.

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    BRIAN BLESSEDBRIAN BLESSED Maybe you aren't SPEAKING LOUDLY ENOUGHHH Registered User regular
    Yeah there's an achievement for not setting off alarms in the NSN sequence. I didn't grab it on my first playthrough so when I got it on my second I was like, "oh. well, shit"

    That said, I felt like I didn't actually trigger anything the first time around and it was just bugged

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    FreiFrei A French Prometheus Unbound DeadwoodRegistered User regular
    edited September 2016
    Spoit wrote: »
    If you start mashing buttons before you read the email, good luck solving it again

    Nah it really isn't difficult at all. Even if you messed around with it before reading the email, the email gives another clue that tells you how its solved. Even if you could not read words and only knew how to press buttons on a controller, you'd still solve it in like maybe a minute or two because there's only raise and turn. I hate puzzles and am bad at them and feel like I'm going crazy reading about the difficulty people are having.

    edit: I guess its not worth arguing over though, some things just end up weirdly simple sometimes even when they usually aren't.

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    CaptainNemoCaptainNemo Registered User regular
    Oh hey, new patch on PS4. Save slots now up to 40, and general other fixes.

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    SirialisSirialis of the Halite Throne. Registered User regular
    edited September 2016
    That is definitely good news, no patch up for Xbox yet, but their certification usually takes a little longer.

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    DreadBertDreadBert Registered User regular
    Drez wrote: »
    HamHamJ wrote: »
    I have to say, I can't imagine why you would need even 10 saves.

    I have to say, I can't imagine why your lack of imagination is relevant to this topic.

    I really hate this kind of response. Some people like to save a lot. And given the massive increase in amount of personal disk space and the fact that a lot of exploratory open world games allow you to save a lot, it's become a standard feature.

    After they fixed the save limitation issue on Steam, I have somewhere around 600 saves, and I was already 2/3 through my playthrough. Are you going to look down on me for that? Because your "I have to say..." blah blah blah sure sounds like it.

    I don't mean to sound so agressive, but this is a huge pet peeve of mine. I don't know what you expect to accomplish with a comment like that. You're criticizing another person's single player behavior. I fail to see what purpose that is meant to serve.

    About as much as your post attacking him I expect.

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    Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Alexandria, VARegistered User regular
    edited September 2016
    Drez wrote: »
    Rami wrote: »
    I just finished my Foxiest run and I did not get any smooth operator bonus during GARM. There's a lot of other places it won't show either.

    It will pop when you talk to
    Miller

    In M14 if you earned it in GARM.

    From GameFAQs - a short list on smooth operator behavior:
    <cite>TheJackyl posted...</cite>
    <quote>Followed this, and got Foxiest
    <cite>defster posted...</cite>
    <blockquote>Btw, i made some notes in notepad while playing. Only read it if you're on NG+ to avoid spoilers.

    <s>
    M3: ghost (once you reach the red book)
    M5: ghost, smooth operator (once you get the DSD device)
    M7: ghost, smooth operator (when meeting Sokol)
    ghost, smooth operator (getting deeper into ARC, with two augs talking)
    ghost, smooth operator (taking elevator to Rucker)
    smooth operator (leaving helicopter when returning to Prague)
    M9: did not get any bonuses post-mission. (still, make sure not to trigger alarms)
    M10: ghost (after leaving Janus meeting. must return the same way you entered - sewers triggers auto-alarm)
    M11: no bonuses at all (church mission has no alarms, unable to get ghost)
    M13: GARM, no bonus given during mission (do NOT contact Miller in the beginning)
    M14: ghost, smooth operator when talking to Miller, before starting the actual mission (reward for M13)
    M14 main: did not receive any bonuses
    M15/M16: ghost, smooth operator x2. Kill all guards and talk to Miller to avoid the alarm.
    = got Foxiest on 2nd NG+ attempt.
    </s></blockquote>

    As for "I Never Asked For This" Save often, and if you get killed, force close the game before the animation finishes, and your save will not be erased.

    EDIT: Make sure you don't cross the lasers, or get spotted in the NSN, even though nothing happens, and you aren't penalized, it voids the trophy as well

    I can personally confirm a lot of that. And I do have Foxiest.

    Ahhh, the sewers is what screwed me the first time. I wonder if you can leave debris there to block the lasers?

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    SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    Drez wrote: »
    Rami wrote: »
    I just finished my Foxiest run and I did not get any smooth operator bonus during GARM. There's a lot of other places it won't show either.

    It will pop when you talk to
    Miller

    In M14 if you earned it in GARM.

    From GameFAQs - a short list on smooth operator behavior:
    <cite>TheJackyl posted...</cite>
    <quote>Followed this, and got Foxiest
    <cite>defster posted...</cite>
    <blockquote>Btw, i made some notes in notepad while playing. Only read it if you're on NG+ to avoid spoilers.

    <s>
    M3: ghost (once you reach the red book)
    M5: ghost, smooth operator (once you get the DSD device)
    M7: ghost, smooth operator (when meeting Sokol)
    ghost, smooth operator (getting deeper into ARC, with two augs talking)
    ghost, smooth operator (taking elevator to Rucker)
    smooth operator (leaving helicopter when returning to Prague)
    M9: did not get any bonuses post-mission. (still, make sure not to trigger alarms)
    M10: ghost (after leaving Janus meeting. must return the same way you entered - sewers triggers auto-alarm)
    M11: no bonuses at all (church mission has no alarms, unable to get ghost)
    M13: GARM, no bonus given during mission (do NOT contact Miller in the beginning)
    M14: ghost, smooth operator when talking to Miller, before starting the actual mission (reward for M13)
    M14 main: did not receive any bonuses
    M15/M16: ghost, smooth operator x2. Kill all guards and talk to Miller to avoid the alarm.
    = got Foxiest on 2nd NG+ attempt.
    </s></blockquote>

    As for "I Never Asked For This" Save often, and if you get killed, force close the game before the animation finishes, and your save will not be erased.

    EDIT: Make sure you don't cross the lasers, or get spotted in the NSN, even though nothing happens, and you aren't penalized, it voids the trophy as well

    I can personally confirm a lot of that. And I do have Foxiest.

    Ahhh, the sewers is what screwed me the first time. I wonder if you can leave debris there to block the lasers?

    You can just cloak through them I think.

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    Kilian Experience recap of HR.

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    Spoit wrote: »
    Drez wrote: »
    Rami wrote: »
    I just finished my Foxiest run and I did not get any smooth operator bonus during GARM. There's a lot of other places it won't show either.

    It will pop when you talk to
    Miller

    In M14 if you earned it in GARM.

    From GameFAQs - a short list on smooth operator behavior:
    <cite>TheJackyl posted...</cite>
    <quote>Followed this, and got Foxiest
    <cite>defster posted...</cite>
    <blockquote>Btw, i made some notes in notepad while playing. Only read it if you're on NG+ to avoid spoilers.

    <s>
    M3: ghost (once you reach the red book)
    M5: ghost, smooth operator (once you get the DSD device)
    M7: ghost, smooth operator (when meeting Sokol)
    ghost, smooth operator (getting deeper into ARC, with two augs talking)
    ghost, smooth operator (taking elevator to Rucker)
    smooth operator (leaving helicopter when returning to Prague)
    M9: did not get any bonuses post-mission. (still, make sure not to trigger alarms)
    M10: ghost (after leaving Janus meeting. must return the same way you entered - sewers triggers auto-alarm)
    M11: no bonuses at all (church mission has no alarms, unable to get ghost)
    M13: GARM, no bonus given during mission (do NOT contact Miller in the beginning)
    M14: ghost, smooth operator when talking to Miller, before starting the actual mission (reward for M13)
    M14 main: did not receive any bonuses
    M15/M16: ghost, smooth operator x2. Kill all guards and talk to Miller to avoid the alarm.
    = got Foxiest on 2nd NG+ attempt.
    </s></blockquote>

    As for "I Never Asked For This" Save often, and if you get killed, force close the game before the animation finishes, and your save will not be erased.

    EDIT: Make sure you don't cross the lasers, or get spotted in the NSN, even though nothing happens, and you aren't penalized, it voids the trophy as well

    I can personally confirm a lot of that. And I do have Foxiest.

    Ahhh, the sewers is what screwed me the first time. I wonder if you can leave debris there to block the lasers?

    You can just cloak through them I think.

    I didn't even realize this until I was at the end of my first run.

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    initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    So... I just found appartment scavenging spoiler
    jensen's medical history in someone's hotel room.

    Does that ever come up? Also I was going to ransack the bank before going to golem city but wanted to check out their innocent parking garage.
    holy shit. I had keys for 2 of the vaults. It was like the mother lode. I just need to find the tai Yong key.

    Long story short, remote hacking and the AIGA that open up paths have hilariously broken this game for me already. And I love it

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    Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Alexandria, VARegistered User regular
    Spoit wrote: »
    Drez wrote: »
    Rami wrote: »
    I just finished my Foxiest run and I did not get any smooth operator bonus during GARM. There's a lot of other places it won't show either.

    It will pop when you talk to
    Miller

    In M14 if you earned it in GARM.

    From GameFAQs - a short list on smooth operator behavior:
    <cite>TheJackyl posted...</cite>
    <quote>Followed this, and got Foxiest
    <cite>defster posted...</cite>
    <blockquote>Btw, i made some notes in notepad while playing. Only read it if you're on NG+ to avoid spoilers.

    <s>
    M3: ghost (once you reach the red book)
    M5: ghost, smooth operator (once you get the DSD device)
    M7: ghost, smooth operator (when meeting Sokol)
    ghost, smooth operator (getting deeper into ARC, with two augs talking)
    ghost, smooth operator (taking elevator to Rucker)
    smooth operator (leaving helicopter when returning to Prague)
    M9: did not get any bonuses post-mission. (still, make sure not to trigger alarms)
    M10: ghost (after leaving Janus meeting. must return the same way you entered - sewers triggers auto-alarm)
    M11: no bonuses at all (church mission has no alarms, unable to get ghost)
    M13: GARM, no bonus given during mission (do NOT contact Miller in the beginning)
    M14: ghost, smooth operator when talking to Miller, before starting the actual mission (reward for M13)
    M14 main: did not receive any bonuses
    M15/M16: ghost, smooth operator x2. Kill all guards and talk to Miller to avoid the alarm.
    = got Foxiest on 2nd NG+ attempt.
    </s></blockquote>

    As for "I Never Asked For This" Save often, and if you get killed, force close the game before the animation finishes, and your save will not be erased.

    EDIT: Make sure you don't cross the lasers, or get spotted in the NSN, even though nothing happens, and you aren't penalized, it voids the trophy as well

    I can personally confirm a lot of that. And I do have Foxiest.

    Ahhh, the sewers is what screwed me the first time. I wonder if you can leave debris there to block the lasers?

    You can just cloak through them I think.

    Yeah, but then I'd have only 13-15 praxis points, and at that rate I'd have nothing left by the end of the game. (I am aware that this is ridiculous.)

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    So... I just found appartment scavenging spoiler
    jensen's medical history in someone's hotel room.

    Does that ever come up? Also I was going to ransack the bank before going to golem city but wanted to check out their innocent parking garage.
    holy shit. I had keys for 2 of the vaults. It was like the mother lode. I just need to find the tai Yong key.

    Long story short, remote hacking and the AIGA that open up paths have hilariously broken this game for me already. And I love it
    1. Yes it comes up
    2. Minor spoiler about Tai Yong, so you don't drive yourself crazy:
    It's not available super-early like the other two.

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