I would have thought they could get much more accurate ratings via digital cable, internet streams, and on-demand data or whathaveyou. I guess some savages still use OTA antennae.
I wish the criticism Lauer is getting would make the other moderators consider actually doing their fucking job but haha if anything they'll just push Clinton even more about emails and coughing and ask Trump questions like "if you were a tree...", aren't they?
I wish the criticism Lauer is getting would make the other moderators consider actually doing their fucking job but haha if anything they'll just push Clinton even more about emails and coughing and ask Trump questions like "if you were a tree...", aren't they?
In other news, today the Rasmussen Reports general election poll (generally right leaning) has had a five point swing towards Clinton. From +1 Trump to +4 Clinton. It's just one poll but that's pretty nice to see.
I would have thought they could get much more accurate ratings via digital cable, internet streams, and on-demand data or whathaveyou. I guess some savages still use OTA antennae.
Yes, because the telcos don't really want to sell their data to third parties. And it tracks more than TV usage, though they are notably lacking any smartphone/tablet stuff.
I'm confused and frustrated with the media rolling over for Trump.
When your campaign advisors include the likes of Manafort and Ailes, and pissing them off means you could find yourself completely sealed off from capitol hill...yeah, this how things shake out.
Nevermind that the major networks were already deeply sexist workplaces that operate like it was still 1970.
It wasn't really a debate. They weren't on stage at the same time and neither of them addressed the other.
Well, they both certainly spent enough time addressing each other when they weren't in the room, so it was a bit more like the first Presidential Election Break Room talk than a debate.
I do like that the guy who put the thing together was kind of like "We need more time, and we need to be the ones asking follow up questions".
I would have thought they could get much more accurate ratings via digital cable, internet streams, and on-demand data or whathaveyou. I guess some savages still use OTA antennae.
Yes, because the telcos don't really want to sell their data to third parties. And it tracks more than TV usage, though they are notably lacking any smartphone/tablet stuff.
They are indeed absolutely still a thing, and includes DVRed material as one of things you track during a viewing survey, so while they lack things like tablets and smartphone data it seems to be at least trying to keep with the times.
Well also vis a vis Nielson families there's also the fact that telecommunication companies are sort of collectively losing their shit over an increasinly bleak business outlook as other forms of media distribution continue to replace larger and larger shares of what used to be all-TV broadcast markets.
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MayabirdPecking at the keyboardRegistered Userregular
It seems like, to a certain group of press people, if you side with Clinton, then you're being biased. If you side with Trump, then it's neutral.
I'm confused and frustrated with the media rolling over for Trump.
I read an essay that got into how that works a little bit recently. It's more of a well-sourced record of how warped the coverage has been, which I find useful in remembering just how ridiculous this all is. It does get into why that's happening a little.
The point I am making involves the power of the press reflex toward “balance.” It is so much more comfortable for all of us—reporters, editors, headline-writers, everyone—to be saying, “See, we’re covering scandals on all sides” rather than having to argue, “There are questions here—and there is something different and more serious there, and it’s worth telling them apart.” This is one more dislocation of the era of Trump.
Seemed like a good read to me, I'm probably going to re-read it again at some point.
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I think that the media is scared shitless of the idea of him winning. They are hedging their bets. If Clinton wins and they play against her, they get to just keep doing what they've done under Obama. If they go against Trump and he wins? They might literally wind up in jail. I think the threats from the rallies might be rattling them. When was the last time conventional media had to do journalism that put them at risk? I think they have no idea how to handle that kind of pressure.
I know that I can be perceived as aloof or cold or unemotional. But I had to learn as a young woman to control my emotions. And that’s a hard path to walk.
I know that I can be perceived as aloof or cold or unemotional. But I had to learn as a young woman to control my emotions. And that’s a hard path to walk.
Here's her full quote:
“I was taking a law school admissions test in a big classroom at Harvard. My friend and I were some of the only women in the room. I was feeling nervous. I was a senior in college. I wasn’t sure how well I’d do. And while we’re waiting for the exam to start, a group of men began to yell things like: ‘You don’t need to be here.’ And ‘There’s plenty else you can do.’ It turned into a real ‘pile on.’ One of them even said: ‘If you take my spot, I’ll get drafted, and I’ll go to Vietnam, and I'll die.’ And they weren’t kidding around. It was intense. It got very personal. But I couldn’t respond. I couldn’t afford to get distracted because I didn’t want to mess up the test. So I just kept looking down, hoping that the proctor would walk in the room. I know that I can be perceived as aloof or cold or unemotional. But I had to learn as a young woman to control my emotions. And that’s a hard path to walk. Because you need to protect yourself, you need to keep steady, but at the same time you don’t want to seem ‘walled off.’ And sometimes I think I come across more in the ‘walled off’ arena. And if I create that perception, then I take responsibility. I don’t view myself as cold or unemotional. And neither do my friends. And neither does my family. But if that sometimes is the perception I create, then I can’t blame people for thinking that.”
I know that I can be perceived as aloof or cold or unemotional. But I had to learn as a young woman to control my emotions. And that’s a hard path to walk.
I already knew that the HONY guy is super good at this, but that is humanizing as fuck.
tzeentchlingDoctor of RocksOaklandRegistered Userregular
Remind me again why we don't have Jon Stewart moderating one of these debates? It would have been a ratings bonanza, and I don't think he would have been particularly kind to either candidate, or let either get away with contrary statements. Exactly what people would have wanted to see.
I think that the media is scared shitless of the idea of him winning. They are hedging their bets. If Clinton wins and they play against her, they get to just keep doing what they've done under Obama. If they go against Trump and he wins? They might literally wind up in jail. I think the threats from the rallies might be rattling them. When was the last time conventional media had to do journalism that put them at risk? I think they have no idea how to handle that kind of pressure.
I don't think that's an unreasonable read of the situation. But I also think that's pretty damn pathetic. Journalists talk a big game about freedom of the press and having the courage to tell the truth. There are circles where having been imprisoned for reporting something is considered heroic. To see all these people so blatantly selling out because they're scared is... disappointing to say the least. This should be practically all they're talking about--the very real threat one of our presidential candidates poses to one of America's most sacred cows.
Our national journalism is a shameful joke and has been for a long time, but I never knew they were, collectively, this pathetic and spineless.
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I know that I can be perceived as aloof or cold or unemotional. But I had to learn as a young woman to control my emotions. And that’s a hard path to walk.
I already knew that the HONY guy is super good at this, but that is humanizing as fuck.
I said it a while back, but the two most humanizing elements of Hillary that started to sway me over to her side during the Bernie days were:
1. Her love of hot sauce & spicy food.
2. Her need to know if aliens exist.
And when I spent the past weekend around my entire extended family of conservatives, they all thought those two points made Hillary seem like an actual human person as opposed to a D.C. lizard queen.
I know that I can be perceived as aloof or cold or unemotional. But I had to learn as a young woman to control my emotions. And that’s a hard path to walk.
Here's her full quote:
“I was taking a law school admissions test in a big classroom at Harvard. My friend and I were some of the only women in the room. I was feeling nervous. I was a senior in college. I wasn’t sure how well I’d do. And while we’re waiting for the exam to start, a group of men began to yell things like: ‘You don’t need to be here.’ And ‘There’s plenty else you can do.’ It turned into a real ‘pile on.’ One of them even said: ‘If you take my spot, I’ll get drafted, and I’ll go to Vietnam, and I'll die.’ And they weren’t kidding around. It was intense. It got very personal. But I couldn’t respond. I couldn’t afford to get distracted because I didn’t want to mess up the test. So I just kept looking down, hoping that the proctor would walk in the room. I know that I can be perceived as aloof or cold or unemotional. But I had to learn as a young woman to control my emotions. And that’s a hard path to walk. Because you need to protect yourself, you need to keep steady, but at the same time you don’t want to seem ‘walled off.’ And sometimes I think I come across more in the ‘walled off’ arena. And if I create that perception, then I take responsibility. I don’t view myself as cold or unemotional. And neither do my friends. And neither does my family. But if that sometimes is the perception I create, then I can’t blame people for thinking that.”
Oof, that's heartbreaking
It's one thing to pretty much know that's what happened, and another thing entirely to hear it laid out.
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I know that I can be perceived as aloof or cold or unemotional. But I had to learn as a young woman to control my emotions. And that’s a hard path to walk.
I already knew that the HONY guy is super good at this, but that is humanizing as fuck.
I said it a while back, but the two most humanizing elements of Hillary that started to sway me over to her side during the Bernie days were:
1. Her love of hot sauce & spicy food.
2. Her need to know if aliens exist.
And when I spent the past weekend around my entire extended family of conservatives, they all thought those two points made Hillary seem like an actual human person as opposed to a D.C. lizard queen.
on the offchance I ever meet her, I'm definitely going to talk to her about hot sauce
Remind me again why we don't have Jon Stewart moderating one of these debates? It would have been a ratings bonanza, and I don't think he would have been particularly kind to either candidate, or let either get away with contrary statements. Exactly what people would have wanted to see.
Because he would alternate between laughing at everything Trump says and looking horrified.
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They've been worked so hard by the right that it's become instinct.
Considering the shit he's said and done to members of the press, they should be as far from Trump supporters as they ethically can be.
Well, you know, David Vitter got away with it, so why should this be surprising at all? *sigh*
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In other news, today the Rasmussen Reports general election poll (generally right leaning) has had a five point swing towards Clinton. From +1 Trump to +4 Clinton. It's just one poll but that's pretty nice to see.
Yes, because the telcos don't really want to sell their data to third parties. And it tracks more than TV usage, though they are notably lacking any smartphone/tablet stuff.
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It wasn't really a debate. They weren't on stage at the same time and neither of them addressed the other.
When your campaign advisors include the likes of Manafort and Ailes, and pissing them off means you could find yourself completely sealed off from capitol hill...yeah, this how things shake out.
Nevermind that the major networks were already deeply sexist workplaces that operate like it was still 1970.
Well, they both certainly spent enough time addressing each other when they weren't in the room, so it was a bit more like the first Presidential Election Break Room talk than a debate.
I do like that the guy who put the thing together was kind of like "We need more time, and we need to be the ones asking follow up questions".
They are indeed absolutely still a thing, and includes DVRed material as one of things you track during a viewing survey, so while they lack things like tablets and smartphone data it seems to be at least trying to keep with the times.
I think the higher-ups in the media want their ground-level journalists to get assaulted. In their minds, it would make such great press for them.
I read an essay that got into how that works a little bit recently. It's more of a well-sourced record of how warped the coverage has been, which I find useful in remembering just how ridiculous this all is. It does get into why that's happening a little.
http://www.theatlantic.com/notes/2016/09/trump-time-capsule-92-how-the-media-undermine-american-democracy/498461/
Seemed like a good read to me, I'm probably going to re-read it again at some point.
'kay
...okay, that's going to be personal for the Clintons.
Here's her full quote:
I already knew that the HONY guy is super good at this, but that is humanizing as fuck.
Honestly, that's more "let's fuck with Luntz" than anything.
I don't think that's an unreasonable read of the situation. But I also think that's pretty damn pathetic. Journalists talk a big game about freedom of the press and having the courage to tell the truth. There are circles where having been imprisoned for reporting something is considered heroic. To see all these people so blatantly selling out because they're scared is... disappointing to say the least. This should be practically all they're talking about--the very real threat one of our presidential candidates poses to one of America's most sacred cows.
Our national journalism is a shameful joke and has been for a long time, but I never knew they were, collectively, this pathetic and spineless.
I said it a while back, but the two most humanizing elements of Hillary that started to sway me over to her side during the Bernie days were:
1. Her love of hot sauce & spicy food.
2. Her need to know if aliens exist.
And when I spent the past weekend around my entire extended family of conservatives, they all thought those two points made Hillary seem like an actual human person as opposed to a D.C. lizard queen.
Oof, that's heartbreaking
It's one thing to pretty much know that's what happened, and another thing entirely to hear it laid out.
on the offchance I ever meet her, I'm definitely going to talk to her about hot sauce
Yes. A Twitter poll.
The thing that I liked about her was at least during her husband's admin, she'd be toting around a Game Boy.
http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/08/investing/wells-fargo-created-phony-accounts-bank-fees/index.html
Because he would alternate between laughing at everything Trump says and looking horrified.
Too real for any station to carry.
Shep Smith continues to be The Only Sane Man on Bullshit Mountain.
The Clickhole version would just be a list of hills they want to fuck
Culminating in a grassy knoll in Dallas