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  • SavantSavant Simply Barbaric Registered User regular
    edited September 2016
    I'm having a rough time with Kaiser dragon. Got him to low health a couple of times, then I just run out of gas as buffs fall off and my guys drop like flies. My hones should be good enough, but unfortunately I don't have a faithga/hastega that is on a nightmare synergy BM, so I need to RW that and it doesn't last the whole fight, especially if you play their game of waiting for the necessary phases to cycle.

    I have desch's sword for enlightning, but the doofus is stuck at level 65 which really hurts for such a highly tuned fight.

    Also, SPOILER ALERT: don't try to use the Gigas armlet accessory. Everything goes great with it until you get to the water phase, then your guy just dies, even using the crystal. Tyro got hit for over 4k on the phase change AOE. The other resist accessories may be worth it though, at least the +mag/fire res ones.

    Savant on
  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    So is Golbez pretty bad without relics?

    Slotted him into my all mustache twirler team but he seems to be a poor man's battlemage. In FFRK, it doesn't really seem like you can have that sort of balance. Its either all magic or all physical.

    Would love to make him work though.

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  • BeastehBeasteh THAT WOULD NOT KILL DRACULARegistered User regular
    edited September 2016
    My mages all had fire resist gear since he uses meltdown guaranteed twice (changing phase from 1 to 2 and 2 to 3)

    Flame Cloak, Gulug Stone, Blaze Armlet etc

    I used Cat's Bell for my healer since his non-synergy HP was a bit low
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    So is Golbez pretty bad without relics?

    Slotted him into my all mustache twirler team but he seems to be a poor man's battlemage. In FFRK, it doesn't really seem like you can have that sort of balance. Its either all magic or all physical.

    Would love to make him work though.

    Every darkness mage is baseline 'good' which becomes 'amazing' if you have an SB, especially an enDark or if their gear is +dark

    Beasteh on
  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    Savant wrote: »
    I'm having a rough time with Kaiser dragon. Got him to low health a couple of times, then I just run out of gas as buffs fall off and my guys drop like flies. My hones should be good enough, but unfortunately I don't have a faithga/hastega that is on a nightmare synergy BM, so I need to RW that and it doesn't last the whole fight, especially if you play their game of waiting for the necessary phases to cycle.

    I have desch's sword for enlightning, but the doofus is stuck at level 65 which really hurts for such a highly tuned fight.

    Also, SPOILER ALERT: don't try to use the Gigas armlet accessory. Everything goes great with it until you get to the water phase, then your guy just dies, even using the crystal. Tyro got hit for over 4k on the phase change AOE. The other resist accessories may be worth it though, at least the +mag/fire res ones.

    It's going to get much easier when good Mage spells roll out again.

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  • SavantSavant Simply Barbaric Registered User regular
    edited September 2016
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    So is Golbez pretty bad without relics?

    Slotted him into my all mustache twirler team but he seems to be a poor man's battlemage. In FFRK, it doesn't really seem like you can have that sort of balance. Its either all magic or all physical.

    Would love to make him work though.

    He's more of a tanky darkness mage than a real physical hybrid. Last I checked his stats he had lower MAG but decently higher overall defenses than the normal top tier black mages.

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    38thDoe wrote: »
    Savant wrote: »
    I'm having a rough time with Kaiser dragon. Got him to low health a couple of times, then I just run out of gas as buffs fall off and my guys drop like flies. My hones should be good enough, but unfortunately I don't have a faithga/hastega that is on a nightmare synergy BM, so I need to RW that and it doesn't last the whole fight, especially if you play their game of waiting for the necessary phases to cycle.

    I have desch's sword for enlightning, but the doofus is stuck at level 65 which really hurts for such a highly tuned fight.

    Also, SPOILER ALERT: don't try to use the Gigas armlet accessory. Everything goes great with it until you get to the water phase, then your guy just dies, even using the crystal. Tyro got hit for over 4k on the phase change AOE. The other resist accessories may be worth it though, at least the +mag/fire res ones.

    It's going to get much easier when good Mage spells roll out again.

    Unfortunately he's guarding one of the best ones. Meltdown would be really nice against him so you don't have to rely on the stupid quake spell to take advantage of the earth weak phase, which means you necessarily eat a crystal charge to do it.

    Savant on
  • FryFry Registered User regular
    edited September 2016
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    So is Golbez pretty bad without relics?

    Slotted him into my all mustache twirler team but he seems to be a poor man's battlemage. In FFRK, it doesn't really seem like you can have that sort of balance. Its either all magic or all physical.

    Would love to make him work though.

    If you have a synergy physical weapon for him (can use Katanas in addition to Axes, Hammers, and Swords!), you can give him Saint Cross and he'll do a decent job of bashing. He is a full 30 ATK behind "real" knights at level 65 though, so you will probably want Dark Bargain in the other slot to make up the difference, and you certainly will want to be stacking Shout with it.

    He can of course MM+DZ just as well as any Darkness mage.

    Fry on
  • chrisnlchrisnl Registered User regular
    Savant wrote: »
    I'm having a rough time with Kaiser dragon. Got him to low health a couple of times, then I just run out of gas as buffs fall off and my guys drop like flies. My hones should be good enough, but unfortunately I don't have a faithga/hastega that is on a nightmare synergy BM, so I need to RW that and it doesn't last the whole fight, especially if you play their game of waiting for the necessary phases to cycle.

    I have desch's sword for enlightning, but the doofus is stuck at level 65 which really hurts for such a highly tuned fight.

    Also, SPOILER ALERT: don't try to use the Gigas armlet accessory. Everything goes great with it until you get to the water phase, then your guy just dies, even using the crystal. Tyro got hit for over 4k on the phase change AOE. The other resist accessories may be worth it though, at least the +mag/fire res ones.

    You can actually use Gigas Armlet on that fight, IF you have an armor with water resistance (I know that Viking Coat for example is a light armor with water resistance). Otherwise yeah, definitely skip using Gigas Armlet.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    To anyone who has Magic Blink, definitely use it on Kaiser Dragon. It can and will absorb any of his nightmare spells. It's especially good to use during his Earth mode, in which he uses no spells until Nightmare Quake.

    Also, Kaiser Dragon never gains any resistances or immunities, regardless of his barrier shift.

    Also, consider hitting the Crystal with fire in whatever barrier shift phase is going to push into his final phase. Resisting his phase-change Meltdown helps a lot.

    About fire resist gear; do you still resist fire if the Crystal is charged with ice?

  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    Is it worth bringing a non-black mange in order to get magic blank

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    Enlong wrote: »
    To anyone who has Magic Blink, definitely use it on Kaiser Dragon. It can and will absorb any of his nightmare spells. It's especially good to use during his Earth mode, in which he uses no spells until Nightmare Quake.

    Also, Kaiser Dragon never gains any resistances or immunities, regardless of his barrier shift.

    Also, consider hitting the Crystal with fire in whatever barrier shift phase is going to push into his final phase. Resisting his phase-change Meltdown helps a lot.

    About fire resist gear; do you still resist fire if the Crystal is charged with ice?

    The Crystal gives you +50% resistance and -50% weakness to its opposite. Moderate accessories give +30%, and Major +60%. So it's 30-50 for -20% (20% more damage) or 60-50 for 10% (10% resistance).

  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    38thDoe wrote: »
    Is it worth bringing a non-black mange in order to get magic blank

    Yes.

    My killing team included 4 black mages (one of whom was using Darkness) and Selphie.

  • NarbusNarbus Registered User regular
    Enlong wrote: »
    To anyone who has Magic Blink, definitely use it on Kaiser Dragon. It can and will absorb any of his nightmare spells. It's especially good to use during his Earth mode, in which he uses no spells until Nightmare Quake.

    Also, Kaiser Dragon never gains any resistances or immunities, regardless of his barrier shift.

    Also, consider hitting the Crystal with fire in whatever barrier shift phase is going to push into his final phase. Resisting his phase-change Meltdown helps a lot.

    About fire resist gear; do you still resist fire if the Crystal is charged with ice?

    According to the AI guy on Reddit, the resists are additive. If you have 25% fire resist, then charge the crystal with ice, you'll have 25% - 50% = -25% fire resist. The crystal buffs you +50% resist to the spell type/-50% resist to the other type, so you'd need at least 50% fire resist to come out neutral.

  • FryFry Registered User regular
    Enlong wrote: »
    38thDoe wrote: »
    Is it worth bringing a non-black mange in order to get magic blank

    Yes.

    My killing team included 4 black mages (one of whom was using Darkness) and Selphie.

    I assume there's still punishment for using physical characters, which would be bad for Kimahri or Beatrix. So you do want to be a little selective about which Magic Blink you bring. :P

  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Fry wrote: »
    Enlong wrote: »
    38thDoe wrote: »
    Is it worth bringing a non-black mange in order to get magic blank

    Yes.

    My killing team included 4 black mages (one of whom was using Darkness) and Selphie.

    I assume there's still punishment for using physical characters, which would be bad for Kimahri or Beatrix. So you do want to be a little selective about which Magic Blink you bring. :P

    Oh yes. He counters physical attacks and ninja skills with nightmare meltdown.

  • chrisnlchrisnl Registered User regular
    Yeah he uses a nasty counter against any physical or ninja magic damage from what I've read. You pretty much have to mage party all the way.

    I haven't given this a try yet, but it sounds like you really need him to hit the right weaknesses fairly quickly in order to get the conditions met and master the fight. Is it worth bringing Quake/Fat Chocobo at all, since those are guaranteed to eat a charge from the crystal?

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    edited September 2016
    chrisnl wrote: »
    Yeah he uses a nasty counter against any physical or ninja magic damage from what I've read. You pretty much have to mage party all the way.

    I haven't given this a try yet, but it sounds like you really need him to hit the right weaknesses fairly quickly in order to get the conditions met and master the fight. Is it worth bringing Quake/Fat Chocobo at all, since those are guaranteed to eat a charge from the crystal?

    Hitting the Crystal with an elemental spell will use up a charge and change your elemental affinity. I don't know if hitting it with the same element twice will use up another charge, though. Either way, if you do bring quake or fat Chocobo, take care to only use that outside of the barrier shift phase, or if he goes into Earth-weak mode. You really don't want to mess up your own elemental affinity or use up too many charges from the Crystal.

    Enlong on
  • A duck!A duck! Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    edited September 2016
    Beat the FFVI CM with mastery. My strat was basically survive until Locke and Shadow get three bars and then erase the boss, which seemed to work well!

    A duck! on
  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    edited September 2016
    And I still can't quite beat Nightmare Evrae. I think the problem here is that it's a test of hones, much like the Black Magic or Summoning nightmares. Main difference is that, while those contain a bunch of attacks in various elements that you will want to keep well stocked, White Magic damage consists of really just 2 spell lines, which you generally want to trade up on as soon as possible. In 99% of content, I will only ever need enough hones to field 2 white mages, at most. Trying to stock enough damage (in cures and Dias) in a full WHM team to take on Evrae is like asking me how many well-honed copies of Maduin I have. I thought I only needed one copy of that!

    Enlong on
  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    I managed Evrae without any duplicate hones, but I think I had R2 Holy at that point and I'm pretty sure I brought Yuffie with R5 Phantasm. And I might have had Yuna's SSB at that point, too... nevermind.

    It occurs to me that I can run Kefka + Lulu for both their mage buffs, Faris for her BSB, Y'shtola for eventual Wall, Garnet for her BSB and RW Celes' BSB on Garnet for the en-holy. Then murder shit endlessly with Garnet casting Alexander + BSB Defend with +90% Holy damage. And Faris' damage will be good too because Celes' +30% ATK.

  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    Ugh why do daily dungeons need one hit kills?

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  • FryFry Registered User regular
    edited September 2016
    Enlong wrote: »
    And I still can't quite beat Nightmare Evrae. I think the problem here is that it's a test of hones, much like the Black Magic or Summoning nightmares. Main difference is that, while those contain a bunch of attacks in various elements that you will want to keep well stocked, White Magic damage consists of really just 2 spell lines, which you generally want to trade up on as soon as possible. In 99% of content, I will only ever need enough hones to field 2 white mages, at most. Trying to stock enough damage (in cures and Dias) in a full WHM team to take on Evrae is like asking me how many well-honed copies of Maduin I have. I thought I only needed one copy of that!

    I think I beat it with R3 Diaga, R3 Diara, R5 Curaja, R5 Curaga, and R5 Swift Bolt (on Tyro), with plenty of hones to spare. Only offensive SB was Beatrix's Seiken Shock, which kind of doesn't count because it can't hit Evrae (I used it to break a lens and then beat up the poor Guado Guard). Did have native Wall and tons of medicas which were key for not dying and for allowing most of those cure hones to be used for damage. Used my RW slot for Yuna's The Sending which did most of the work clearing the lenses. These days you can RW Penelo's Mincing Minuet and it'd be even better at that job.

    Fry on
  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    Anyone have thoughts on Ultros CM with no SBs?

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    edited September 2016
    38thDoe wrote: »
    Anyone have thoughts on Ultros CM with no SBs?

    Setzer w/ Full Break and Magic Breakdown
    Celes w/ Fira and Blizzara Strikes
    Edgar w/ Banishing Strike and Saint's Cross
    Relm w/ Curaga/Haste and Shellga
    Mog w/ Curaja and Power Breakdown Dance
    RW: Shout

    Do you have ANY Shared SBs? Shared Medica for your healer? Shared Protectga or Shellga? It will honestly be really tough, a few pieces will be missing no matter what.

    You really need to have Full Break and SOME form of Power Breakdown (Dance)/Steal Power queued up to hit Ultros right as a new one spawns. Running Steal Power is a waste with Shout, but you could run it if you RW Maria's Song or Apocalypse Shield, but that means bring Haste. In which case, Locke w/Steal Power and Thief's Revenge is viable. I'd probably lead towards Maria's Song to extend your hones.
    ProShellga, because both types of damage hurt, but I'd lean towards Shellga over Protectga, especially if you can run people in the back row.
    Hastega, which has to come from a RW or second WM.

    silence1186 on
  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    It's probably worth remembering that Celes's default SB is a party 50% res buff. One of the few default SB's worth a damn.

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  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    Anyone have minicing minuet?
    38thDoe wrote: »
    Anyone have thoughts on Ultros CM with no SBs?

    Setzer w/ Full Break and Magic Breakdown
    Celes w/ Fira and Blizzara Strikes
    Edgar w/ Banishing Strike and Saint's Cross
    Relm w/ Curaga/Haste and Shellga
    Mog w/ Curaja and Power Breakdown Dance
    RW: Shout

    Do you have ANY Shared SBs? Shared Medica for your healer? Shared Protectga or Shellga? It will honestly be really tough, a few pieces will be missing no matter what.

    You really need to have Full Break and SOME form of Power Breakdown (Dance)/Steal Power queued up to hit Ultros right as a new one spawns. Running Steal Power is a waste with Shout, but you could run it if you RW Maria's Song or Apocalypse Shield, but that means bring Haste. In which case, Locke w/Steal Power and Thief's Revenge is viable. I'd probably lead towards Maria's Song to extend your hones.
    ProShellga, because both types of damage hurt, but I'd lean towards Shellga over Protectga, especially if you can run people in the back row.
    Hastega, which has to come from a RW or second WM.

    I have the candle rod, the celebration dagger, the two X medica rods, and a shared shellga light armor. The shared medicas are so weak that I've almost certainly taken more than the damage it heals by the time it casts.

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  • FryFry Registered User regular
    Equip both X medicas on your two white mages, and cast them both at the same time. Worked for me against U+ Bartz.

    Could maybe see running dual Support with Setzer + Terra if you have a good synergy sword to give her to make up for her low ATK. All the breakdowns!

  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    edited September 2016
    Man, I have literally everything I need to curbstomp this Kaiser Dragon fight... except his willingness to give me Lightning and Water phases in his first four sets. Stupidest Mastery Conditions ever.

    Rius on
  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Nah, I think the stupidest was "don't let Locke die" in the fight with Red Dragon in that first event to introduce Locke.

    Specifically, the Red Dragon fight that had Locke as a reward. At least Kaiser Dragon is possible to get the medals on when you fight it the first time.

  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    38thDoe wrote: »
    Anyone have minicing minuet?
    38thDoe wrote: »
    Anyone have thoughts on Ultros CM with no SBs?

    Setzer w/ Full Break and Magic Breakdown
    Celes w/ Fira and Blizzara Strikes
    Edgar w/ Banishing Strike and Saint's Cross
    Relm w/ Curaga/Haste and Shellga
    Mog w/ Curaja and Power Breakdown Dance
    RW: Shout

    Do you have ANY Shared SBs? Shared Medica for your healer? Shared Protectga or Shellga? It will honestly be really tough, a few pieces will be missing no matter what.

    You really need to have Full Break and SOME form of Power Breakdown (Dance)/Steal Power queued up to hit Ultros right as a new one spawns. Running Steal Power is a waste with Shout, but you could run it if you RW Maria's Song or Apocalypse Shield, but that means bring Haste. In which case, Locke w/Steal Power and Thief's Revenge is viable. I'd probably lead towards Maria's Song to extend your hones.
    ProShellga, because both types of damage hurt, but I'd lean towards Shellga over Protectga, especially if you can run people in the back row.
    Hastega, which has to come from a RW or second WM.

    I have the candle rod, the celebration dagger, the two X medica rods, and a shared shellga light armor. The shared medicas are so weak that I've almost certainly taken more than the damage it heals by the time it casts.

    Alright, given what you have:
    Setzer w/ Full Break and Magic Breakdown w/Shared Shellga (Mako Might)
    Celes w/ Fira and Blizzara Strikes w/Default SB (+Spellblade damage, +Weapon damage, or +ATK RM, depending on your exact stats/set up)
    Edgar w/ Banishing Strike and Saint's Cross w/No SB (+Weapon damage, or +ATK RM, depending on your exact stats/set up)
    Relm w/ Haste and Protectga w/Shared Medica (Auto-haste RM)
    Mog w/ Curaja and Power Breakdown Dance w/Shared Medica (Double-cast White Magic RM)
    RW: Maria's Song

    Give Setzer a thrown weapon and put him in the back row if you can. It sucks concentrating your mitigation on one guy, but you really need Edgar to kill the boss. I could be wrong on this, though.

    I think I'd have to test the fight to see whether Edgar or Celes should use the first Maria's Song. If Celes does, you have two Holy users for phase 1, and can probably save a use of Full Break for each of phases 2-5 (which you should probably do this anyway, but phase 1 will be shortest). The burst commands from Maria's Song also benefit from the +30% Spellblade damage RM. Whereas if Edgar uses it, Phase 1 goes a little slower, but you have two Fire and Ice users for phases 2-3, which lets you push into or almost into Phase 4 before refreshing Maria's Song.

    Mog and Setzer should queue Full Break and Power Breakdown for right before Ultros "dies" and changes phases. Relm will buff and heal with her Medica. You might also be able to get away with:

    Relm w/ Curaja and Protectga (Doublecast)
    Mog w/ Haste and Power Breakdown (auto-Haste)

    You probably end up skipping Power Breakdown in phase 1 while you buff Haste, but you have less waiting around doing nothing once Haste is up. This would also influence your "who summons Maria's Song first" decision.

    There's a lot of moving parts, so it'd probably take some experimenting on what works best. But it might work! Gear a team, look at your numbers, and run some numbers past Ultros's stats.

    You'd have ProShellga, +50% Res, and Full Break/Power/Magic Breakdowns. That's a decent amount of mitigation.

  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    edited September 2016
    Well, I just got completely fuckin' screwed over!

    I beat Nightmare Evrae Altana, yay yay finally up to date, and all that jazz. But I lost mastery because of what I feel is complete bullshit. Right towards the end of the fight, Evrae Altana prepped Nightmare Poison Breath, I interrupted it with Esuna, and then he prepped it again. Immediately. Right as my designated Esunaer was at the bottom of his ATB bar. So I got hit with Nightmare Poison Breath and lost the medals, and with it, championship.

    Well, if that's the kind of thing that fight can pull, then I really couldn't care less about those White and Holy Crystals. Far as I'm concerned, I did everything as right as I could (what, is the fight expecting me to pack two Esunas and forego a damage dealer, Shellga/Protectga, Dispel, or Raise?), and will not be repeating the fight, just to see if RNG feels like being kind in the final stretch this time.


    Anyway, team was 5 WHMs, each carrying a Cure or Dia-line spell and something else. Y'shtola (Dispel), Selphie (Shellga), Lenna (Protectga), Exdeath (Esuna), and Penelo (Raise). Y'shtola had Stoneskin II, Exdeath had nothing, and everyone else had various flavours of Medica.

    RW was a bit unorthodox. I went with Paladin Force. The AOE helped soften up the lenses, and the Enholy effect made Penelo's Curagas hit for 9999 while it lasted. Very nice. The incresed DPS allowed me to drop the lenses much faster than before (when I was packing DG), and thereby keep enough hones to drop Evrae Altana's third life before I ran out of everything. Guado Guard went down pretty easy; slapped him with 3 Raises and he stayed down.

    Enlong on
  • Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    jesus fuck the s/ls on that nighmare....

    fucking an hour of random bs rng is not fun dena. fuck you.

  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    I completed it with an Expert, and now I'm literally just S/Ling until he does Lightning or Water first, and then I'll run through and see if his 2nd, 3rd or 4th forms are the other. As soon as he does that, easy Mastery.

  • FryFry Registered User regular
    edited September 2016
    Enlong wrote: »
    Well, I just got completely fuckin' screwed over!

    I beat Nightmare Evrae Altana, yay yay finally up to date, and all that jazz. But I lost mastery because of what I feel is complete bullshit. Right towards the end of the fight, Evrae Altana prepped Nightmare Poison Breath, I interrupted it with Esuna, and then he prepped it again. Immediately. Right as my designated Esunaer was at the bottom of his ATB bar. So I got hit with Nightmare Poison Breath and lost the medals, and with it, championship.

    Well, if that's the kind of thing that fight can pull, then I really couldn't care less about those White and Holy Crystals. Far as I'm concerned, I did everything as right as I could (what, is the fight expecting me to pack two Esunas and forego a damage dealer, Shellga/Protectga, Dispel, or Raise?), and will not be repeating the fight, just to see if RNG feels like being kind in the final stretch this time.

    Cast time for Nightmare Poison Breath is 3.5 seconds. Phase 3's ATB takes 0.5s to fill. The ATB resets when poison is cured, so for the 20% chance it's going to do NPB again, it'll take 4s to get it off. If you're Hasted, you should be able to charge ATB and get an Esuna off (~1.9s ATB, 1.5s Esuna). If you aren't hasted, yeah you're fucked.

    The more likely scenario that fucked me the first couple times I made it to phase 3 was if I was dumb enough to start casting anything else with my Esuna bot, Evrae would choose that time to start charging NPB. That's a quick trip to medallossville.

    Fry on
  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    edited September 2016
    I brought two Esunas for phase 3, because fuck that nonsense. But I had ability slots to spare.

    Finally had a run where Kaiser Dragon started with Water and then shifted to Lightning (and then Poison.) I turned on the turbojets and burned him down to Phase 3 before he could shift into a 4th phase, refreshing my RW Sheepsong and native Focus along the way. The shift to Phase 3 was accomplished by Golbez' SSB (21.6k damage), and Krile's (about the same) landed right after that, giving everyone Fast Cast 3. Exdeath's shared medica landed for ~1700, topping everyone off. Rinoa landed an 18k Wishing Star while everyone did a round of -Jas/Dark Zone, Kaiser Dragon got a single cast of Flare Star off, and then a second round of -Jas finished him off.

    Thanks RNGesus.
    Golbez  - 80 - 6217 HP - 523 MAG - 377 RES - R3 Dark Zone, R2 Memento Mori - Cosmic Ray    - 20% Dark RM
    Krile   - 80 - 5033 HP - 490 MAG - 377 RES - R4 Firaja, R4 Blizzaja        - Unspoken Bond - 20% BLK DMG RM
    Rinoa   - 80 - 5329 HP - 522 MAG - 393 RES - R5 Waterja, R4 Darkra         - Wishing Star  - 20% BLK DMG RM
    Lulu    - 80 - 5033 HP - 510 MAG - 403 RES - R4 Thundaja, R4 Bioga         - Focus         - Dr. Mog's Teachings
    Exdeath - 80 - 5966 HP - 404 MAG - 390 RES - R4 Curaja, R2 Shellga         - Shared Medica - Cetra's Destiny
    RW: Sheepsong
    

    I decided to forgo a White Mage with a unique Medica, or Y'shtola; I wanted to go full Nightmare Synergy. I'm lucky enough to have relics for some of the higher base RES casters, Rinoa notwithstanding, so I was able to push my RES very high. The Phase 1 transition Meltdown would do ~1500 to all, and I kept damage down in P2 by immediately burning a crystal charge on whatever he switched to. Between that and the ticking Doom clock on Golbez, I just couldn't sit through a fourth segment to see his fifth element. His phase 2 segment transition AoEs would do ~1500 as well, but most of the time I had my three BLMs preemptively Defend such that they'd have full ATB right after the segment change.

    Rius on
  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Y'all were seeing 4 Barrier Shifts?

    Not sure if I should count myself fortunate or unfortunate to have been seeing only 3 per attempt. On the one hand, it means he dies faster. On the other hand, it meant that the RNG for the medals was that much harder to beat.

    all in all, I think Kaiser Dragon was a very good fight (that was surprisingly like his fight in the home game), horribly marred by medal conditions that aren't fun to follow at all. Why couldn't it just have been "exploit an elemental weakness of Kaiser Dragon (Nightmare)"?

  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    On my Mastery run I only saw 3, but I had the resources and time to see a 4th if necessary. If I'd dropped Memento Mori I could have sat there for a while longer I suppose.

  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Yeah, on my runs, I was routinely pushing into his final phase after 3 Barrier Shifts. Probably due to Terra and Kefka hitting 9999 with each spell (Enfire and Burst Mode, respectively).

  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    I'm not sure I even want to try the stupid Meltdown thing just yet. My black mage relics remain atrocious, so it's all on hones. Grand Cross can blunt some of the damage early on, but the only other even vaguely useful SB I have for it is a faithga on fucking Fusoya of all characters. I think once I have enough motes to turn Quistis into a 5* Black Mage so I can bring native MG8, that'll help a bunch so I'm not stuck RWing Sheepsong for haste and can bring Focus instead.

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  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    edited September 2016
    Why is Mug Bloodlust a single hit for 3.2x potency? That's so wasteful.

    6* abilities are a fucking trainwreck from start to finish. All I want to do is make both Ultima and Meltdown, and preferably both Neo Bahamut and Valiagarmanda, yet both goals are impossible because the income of Black and Summon crystals is pathetic. Meanwhile there's a dozen physical skills and maybe three of them are good.

    Rius on
  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Man, I'd be interested in Mug Bloodlust even if it didn't have a damaging component at all.

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