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2016 Vice Presidential Debate: Tim Kaine v. Mike Pence, 10/4/2016 at 9:00 PM EST

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  • DivideByZeroDivideByZero Social Justice Blackguard Registered User regular
    Mild Confusion wrote: »
    Pence, "I'm not afraid to bring up bias."

    :lol:
    eg.

    bias against Christians
    bias against gun owners
    bias against whites

    First they came for the Muslims, and we said NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKERS
  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    Oh hey, finally a question that isn't "Why is Hillary so bad?"

  • aiouaaioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    I'll stop assuming the worst of the police force when they stop shooting unarmed citizens.

    life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
    fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
    that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
    bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
  • CrayonCrayon Sleeps in the wrong bed. TejasRegistered User regular
    "I mean, what I'm saying is that institutional racism exists...we just don't care. Get over it."

  • VeagleVeagle Registered User regular
    Frank Luntz is praising the moderator for raising the real questions tonight.

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  • DivideByZeroDivideByZero Social Justice Blackguard Registered User regular
    oh goddammit Kaine

    Pence was just about to say that inner city people should love stop and frisk

    let him hang himselffor fucks sake

    First they came for the Muslims, and we said NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKERS
  • CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    Veagle wrote: »
    Frank Luntz is praising the moderator for raising the real questions tonight.

    Of course he is.

  • CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    Bring up the wall.

    BRING UP THE WALL.

  • aiouaaioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    DivideByZero wrote: »
    oh goddammit Kaine

    Pence was just about to say that inner city people should love stop and frisk

    let him hang himselffor fucks sake

    Yeah that was a misplay

    life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
    fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
    that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
    bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    Kaine what are you doing.

    Kaine what are you doing.
    He just said that "folks in the inner city" should be "happy with stop and frisk", don't let him get away with that and go after the other accusations.

    He just said that inner city people should be happy with stop and frisk!

    What are you doing Kaine?!

  • BurnageBurnage Registered User regular
    On the bright side, Trump's going to look like even more of a phenomenally shitty debater coming after Pence.

  • aiouaaioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    Oh please please please ask pence what that plan is.

    life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
    fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
    that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
    bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Khavall wrote: »
    Kaine what are you doing.

    Kaine what are you doing.
    He just said that "folks in the inner city" should be "happy with stop and frisk", don't let him get away with that and go after the other accusations.

    He just said that inner city people should be happy with stop and frisk!

    What are you doing Kaine?!

    Gish Gallop at work.

    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    Giggles_Funsworth wrote: »
    Raiden333 wrote: »
    This debate is a fucking shitshow.

    Pence is a horrible person proposing horrible policies, Kaine is being twice as annoying with his debate style.

    I don't disagree, but I'm not sure what winning options he has with Pence trotting out shit that could be proven obviously false in 5 seconds, with no chance to correct. Either there needs to be equal time to rebut so they can't jump from one lie to the next and get them into the public consciousness unchecked, or the moderator's gotta fact check.

    Pence is just running a Gish Gallop on him. It worked for Romney, and Kaine is no Obama.

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  • Mild ConfusionMild Confusion Smash All Things Registered User regular
    While I like Kaine segueing into Trump attacks and trying to tie Pence to him, it's really pretty awkward how he's doing it.

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  • DivideByZeroDivideByZero Social Justice Blackguard Registered User regular
    I think Kaine is too eager for this right now

    Hillary just sat there and played out the rope

    First they came for the Muslims, and we said NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKERS
  • CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    So far Trump is just retweeting people saying how well Pence is doing. That's low energy.

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  • CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    Quoting Donald Trump is now insulting Donald Trump.

  • MilskiMilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    I think Kaine has stabilized somewhat now that he's acting morally correct rather than pragmatically correct on taxes. It's easy for Pence to spin taxes into a moral argument, but it's difficult to win that on race relations.

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  • EinzelEinzel Registered User regular
    "if Donald said the things you said he said..."

    um, he did?

  • never dienever die Registered User regular
    I will give the moderator; these loaded questions are shooting both ways:

    "Are polic criticized too much?"

    "What about illegal immigrants who aren't violent? What do you do about that?"

  • KetBraKetBra Dressed Ridiculously Registered User regular
    auuaggaghasgh excuse me while I bleed out of all of my orifices

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  • XantomasXantomas Registered User regular
    Pence: How DARE YOU say all those things that Trump said! You are so offensive!

  • ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    I'm out.

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  • BurnageBurnage Registered User regular
    What the fuck is this gaslighting?

  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    TWAHWETAHAWTHAWT

    WAHWAWAWAAAAHAH

    WHAT THE FUCCCK

    WHAT THE FUCK
    WHAT THEN TUFKSHJ

  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    never die wrote: »
    I will give the moderator; these loaded questions are shooting both ways:

    "Are polic criticized too much?"

    "What about illegal immigrants who aren't violent? What do you do about that?"

    Focusing on illegal immigrants who are criminal in the framing.

    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
  • SurikoSuriko AustraliaRegistered User regular
    Why would you apologise for the deplorables comment during a debate

    Kaine what the fuck are you doing

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  • VeagleVeagle Registered User regular
    edited October 2016
    Did Kaine just reverse-psychology Pence into interrupting!

    Veagle on
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  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    I don't like this debate, I don't think Kaine is doing a good job, and that is disappointing. Still have time to turn it around, but not super enthused so far.

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  • CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    never die wrote: »
    I will give the moderator; these loaded questions are shooting both ways:

    "Are polic criticized too much?"

    "What about illegal immigrants who aren't violent? What do you do about that?"
    Maybe she assumed that the two of them would be so boring she needed to force conflict with SHARP QUESTIONS

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  • CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    Kaine.

    You're not very good at this.

  • never dienever die Registered User regular
    Eh his larger point was good, if not completely accurate: " she apologized, when has trump ever apologized for being wrong? Here's all of these horrible examples of trump being a dick and not apologizing for it."

    His follow point for trump's illegal immigration programs is good too.

  • DivideByZeroDivideByZero Social Justice Blackguard Registered User regular
    Elaine: "But what about the undocumented? Will they be forcibly removed?"
    Pence: "Don't you worry about X. Let me worry about X."

    First they came for the Muslims, and we said NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKERS
  • Mild ConfusionMild Confusion Smash All Things Registered User regular
    "We'll build a wall, but also in the ground and in the air."

    What does that mean?

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  • BurnageBurnage Registered User regular
    I didn't realise Pence is only 57. I'd be worried about him leading a ticket in four years, based on this performance.

  • never dienever die Registered User regular
    edited October 2016
    As a Hoosier, I don't like Pence. Having said that, he is doing a really good job of being the humanizing image in this debate.


    Edit: dong and doing are very different words auto-correct.

    never die on
  • aiouaaioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    edited October 2016
    Mild Confusion wrote: »
    "We'll build a wall, but also in the ground and in the air."

    What does that mean?

    The overwall: to the center of the earth, to the heights of the sky.

    aioua on
    life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
    fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
    that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
    bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
  • CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    Mild Confusion wrote: »
    "We'll build a wall, but also in the ground and in the air."

    What does that mean?

    Air surveillance of the border, and stopping the tunneling.

  • Mr KhanMr Khan Not Everyone WAHHHRegistered User regular
    Suriko wrote: »
    Why would you apologise for the deplorables comment during a debate

    Kaine what the fuck are you doing

    white rural audience. The deplorables are all around them, frankly.

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