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Nintendo Switch: March 2017

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    Still, you're kind of taking a risk by breaking the NDA.

    Switch Friend Code: SW - 5443 - 2358 - 9118 || 3DS Friend Code: 0989 - 1731 - 9504 || NNID: unclesporky
  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    Since it was briefly mentioned a bit back, here are some modern gaming conventions I would like to see Nintendo adopt for the near future:

    -Full streaming and sharing features: Enough with the YouTube witch hunts, Nintendo. People are going to stream your games no matter how much you fight it, so accept it already and let us share our highlights in an easy and convenient way.

    -Achievements: Debate it all you want, but it's been obvious for two generations now that people care about Achievements/Trophies. Stop forcing developers to shoehorn in-game achievements and adopt a universal method already.

    -No more Friend Codes: there was an argument to be made about the safety of friend codes maybe ten years ago. But when literally every other social-enabled device hasn't had a problem with traditional friend invites, it's time to retire this unnecessarily obtuse policy. There are millions of kids playing games on their phones or Minecraft/Overwatch on PC instead of your consoles, and they seem to have no problems with random friend invites.

    -Story Mode for Smash Bros: cutting out a successor to Subspace Emissary was the single worst decision you could make for Smash 4. You can't make a crossover game with Cloud, Ryu, Pac-Man, Shulk and Bayonetta and not have a hilariously over-the-top fanservice story mode included. You include this in the re-release and you do it right goddamn now.

    -Expand the VC Library: I don't know how third party licensing works (I could have sworn Nintendo had full control and distribution for anything that's released on their consoles), but even sticking to their first party offerings, they can still add a significant bit more to the Virtual Console. Gamecube games, N64, NES, SNES, even the goddamn Virtual Boy just for nostalgia's sake...just dump it all in there.

    -Expanded Miiverse: Miiverse was the one social thing I really liked in the Wii U, so I would love to see it come back. Just add a few extra features, like extra colors and an easier way to share fun drawings/messages.

    -Cloud Saves: If I'm going to be bouncing back and forth between the handheld and console modes of the Switch, I want to make sure I don't lose my progress because I forgot to charge the handheld/controller back to the dock. Periodically backing up saves to a cloud would immediately solve this problem, as well as the problem of having to get a replacement device.

  • homogenizedhomogenized Registered User regular
    I don't see the point in bringing up Friend Codes when the Wii U doesn't have them.

  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    I don't see the point in bringing up Friend Codes when the Wii U doesn't have them.

    Because Super Mario Run does

    It's made people a bit nervous

  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    I don't see the point in bringing up Friend Codes when the Wii U doesn't have them.

    Admittedly I haven't added a friend in the Wii U in forever, so I might be misremembering. I could have sworn you still needed some sort of code ID to add people.

  • homogenizedhomogenized Registered User regular
    Ah, I don't have an iOS device, so I didn't know. We don't have a Super Mario Run thread, do we?

  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    I don't see the point in bringing up Friend Codes when the Wii U doesn't have them.

    Admittedly I haven't added a friend in the Wii U in forever, so I might be misremembering. I could have sworn you still needed some sort of code ID to add people.

    Only on 3DS, no codes on Wii U. Last I checked, you could add Wii U friends by name in the friend app, or also through Miiverse, which is easier and more user-friendly.

    Switch Friend Code: SW - 5443 - 2358 - 9118 || 3DS Friend Code: 0989 - 1731 - 9504 || NNID: unclesporky
  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    Still needs to be more streamlined.

  • Dr. Phibbs McAtheyDr. Phibbs McAthey Registered User regular
    edited January 2017
    Miitomo doesn't have friend codes, does it? I recall having many friends in that but never putting in a code.
    Still, there is a difference between single game friends and account-wide friends. My friend list should show up on every account enabled Nintendo console I own.

    Dr. Phibbs McAthey on
  • vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
    I don't see the point in bringing up Friend Codes when the Wii U doesn't have them.

    Admittedly I haven't added a friend in the Wii U in forever, so I might be misremembering. I could have sworn you still needed some sort of code ID to add people.

    Only on 3DS, no codes on Wii U. Last I checked, you could add Wii U friends by name in the friend app, or also through Miiverse, which is easier and more user-friendly.

    But, IRIC, it doesn't work like a Friend's Request like any other system.

    Two people still have to manually add each other, right?

    // Steam: VWinds // PSN: vagrant_winds //
    // Switch: SW-5306-0651-6424 //
  • PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    I don't see the point in bringing up Friend Codes when the Wii U doesn't have them.

    Admittedly I haven't added a friend in the Wii U in forever, so I might be misremembering. I could have sworn you still needed some sort of code ID to add people.

    Only on 3DS, no codes on Wii U. Last I checked, you could add Wii U friends by name in the friend app, or also through Miiverse, which is easier and more user-friendly.

    But, IRIC, it doesn't work like a Friend's Request like any other system.

    Two people still have to manually add each other, right?

    No, Wii U has friend requests.

  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    I think both Miiverse and the friend app tell you about pending requests. Miiverse is more convenient because they show up as notifications instead of wanting you to accept or deny every one.

    Switch Friend Code: SW - 5443 - 2358 - 9118 || 3DS Friend Code: 0989 - 1731 - 9504 || NNID: unclesporky
  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    The fact that we're all confused about this only emphasizes this part further:
    Still, there is a difference between single game friends and account-wide friends. My friend list should show up on every account enabled Nintendo console I own.

  • Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    I don't see the point in bringing up Friend Codes when the Wii U doesn't have them.

    Because Super Mario Run does

    It's made people a bit nervous

    Tons of mobile games have friend codes / IDs, it doesn't mean anything.

    Add me on Switch: 7795-5541-4699
  • SeidkonaSeidkona Had an upgrade Registered User regular
    This is an area where Nintendo has the potential to really mess up. I really want the ability to be playing a Mario Game and have a friend hit me up with a request to play Monster Hunter.

    Mostly just huntin' monsters.
    XBL:Phenyhelm - 3DS:Phenyhelm
  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited January 2017
    The fact that we're all confused about this only emphasizes this part further:
    Still, there is a difference between single game friends and account-wide friends. My friend list should show up on every account enabled Nintendo console I own.

    I don't think most people are confused. You said you hadn't added anyone in forever, so you didn't remember. It's been this way since the Wii U released.

    Additionally, the cross-device thing will matter less when they have one single device, though it'd be pretty cool if the Switch can directly pick up any friends you already have via Miiverse/Wii U.

    UncleSporky on
    Switch Friend Code: SW - 5443 - 2358 - 9118 || 3DS Friend Code: 0989 - 1731 - 9504 || NNID: unclesporky
  • Linespider5Linespider5 ALL HAIL KING KILLMONGER Registered User regular
    Given how much consternation is going around about the Switch's friend system, potential cloud sharing, and the like, I'm going to just assume that Nintendo's initiative on any of these fronts is not going to emerge tomorrow evening, fully formed, and will instead be a Work In Progress that will easily continue throughout the rest of the year, if not longer.

    I'm of two minds on cloud saves. On one hand I like it and see no good reason to complain about it if it's there. Of course, Cloud Saves would absolutely necessitate having Nintendo Accounts that are not limited to specific machines. So the cloud save argument could be used to lean into all the other points of contention people have about Friends Lists, Virtual Console stuff, and so on. Figuring out an infrastructure that would enable Cloud Saves would in turn give the baseline for building other major features that people are baying for.

    But that's just not going to be out of the box. Or, if it is, it's going to be, shall we say, 'unanticipated scale of demand' and the like.

    Without wanting to sound TOO glib about all this, I do want to meekly advise that the Switch is a cartridge based system, allowing saves on the very games themselves, and the SD slot on the Switch itself certainly should help with things like this also. Which doesn't entirely eliminate the scenario and solution of 'asshole took all my Nintendo gear but maybe, once I get all that equivalent gear back, I can download all my saves from the Cloud,' but it helps.

  • WordherderWordherder Registered User regular
    Well, we already have a Nintendo account that isn't tied to specific machines, so things should get a lot better on that front. In theory.

    Why the crap did I ever make my original name "cloudeagle?"
  • DirtyDirty Registered User regular
    I think this is the case I'm gonna be looking to use when I throw my Switch in my man-purse messenger bag:
    C1-LrO-XUAQPIKL.jpg

  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    Dirty wrote: »
    I think this is the case I'm gonna be looking to use when I throw my Switch in my man-purse messenger bag:
    C1-LrO-XUAQPIKL.jpg

    That looks pretty slick.

  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    Given how much consternation is going around about the Switch's friend system, potential cloud sharing, and the like, I'm going to just assume that Nintendo's initiative on any of these fronts is not going to emerge tomorrow evening, fully formed, and will instead be a Work In Progress that will easily continue throughout the rest of the year, if not longer.

    I'm of two minds on cloud saves. On one hand I like it and see no good reason to complain about it if it's there. Of course, Cloud Saves would absolutely necessitate having Nintendo Accounts that are not limited to specific machines. So the cloud save argument could be used to lean into all the other points of contention people have about Friends Lists, Virtual Console stuff, and so on. Figuring out an infrastructure that would enable Cloud Saves would in turn give the baseline for building other major features that people are baying for.

    But that's just not going to be out of the box. Or, if it is, it's going to be, shall we say, 'unanticipated scale of demand' and the like.

    Without wanting to sound TOO glib about all this, I do want to meekly advise that the Switch is a cartridge based system, allowing saves on the very games themselves, and the SD slot on the Switch itself certainly should help with things like this also. Which doesn't entirely eliminate the scenario and solution of 'asshole took all my Nintendo gear but maybe, once I get all that equivalent gear back, I can download all my saves from the Cloud,' but it helps.

    the bolded is what people are kind of irritated about though. They don't have to figure out cloud saves and singular account tie ins, that stuff has been figured out for years already.

  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    I bet they can strike a deal with Amazon... Oh wait no they can't. Aren't Nintendo and Amazon still fighting?

    I guess they could call up Microsoft.

  • HallowedFaithHallowedFaith Call me Cloud. Registered User regular
    No cloud saving will leave me quite disappointed.

    I'm making video games. DesignBy.Cloud
  • WordherderWordherder Registered User regular
    urahonky wrote: »
    I bet they can strike a deal with Amazon... Oh wait no they can't. Aren't Nintendo and Amazon still fighting?

    I guess they could call up Microsoft.

    They're happy to sell software and Amibos themselves, but a quick check shows they still don't sell the hardware themselves.

    Goddammit. I'm going to have to get in line at Gamestop, aren't I?

    Why the crap did I ever make my original name "cloudeagle?"
  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    I bet they can strike a deal with Amazon... Oh wait no they can't. Aren't Nintendo and Amazon still fighting?

    I guess they could call up Microsoft.

    They're happy to sell software and Amibos themselves, but a quick check shows they still don't sell the hardware themselves.

    Goddammit. I'm going to have to get in line at Gamestop, aren't I?

    Yep it sucks. I'm going to call my local Gamestop and see if they're going to be doing preorders for the Switch tomorrow.

  • PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Well, we already have a Nintendo account that isn't tied to specific machines, so things should get a lot better on that front. In theory.

    I think it's too early to say that My Nintendo won't be limited to a single Switch the same way Nintendo Network ID is limited to a single Wii U and 3DS.

  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    Yeah he said they're going to open preorders tomorrow. Looks like I'm coming in late!

  • Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    Peewi wrote: »
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Well, we already have a Nintendo account that isn't tied to specific machines, so things should get a lot better on that front. In theory.

    I think it's too early to say that My Nintendo won't be limited to a single Switch the same way Nintendo Network ID is limited to a single Wii U and 3DS.

    It's not My Nintendo. It's this.

    Add me on Switch: 7795-5541-4699
  • WordherderWordherder Registered User regular
    urahonky wrote: »
    Yeah he said they're going to open preorders tomorrow. Looks like I'm coming in late!

    Ah, and there's going to be an ice storm in my area tonight. Wheee!

    Why the crap did I ever make my original name "cloudeagle?"
  • PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    Maz- wrote: »
    Peewi wrote: »
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Well, we already have a Nintendo account that isn't tied to specific machines, so things should get a lot better on that front. In theory.

    I think it's too early to say that My Nintendo won't be limited to a single Switch the same way Nintendo Network ID is limited to a single Wii U and 3DS.

    It's not My Nintendo. It's this.

    That's the same thing! I wasn't aware My Nintendo wasn't the name for that whole thing, but that's the same account that's used for it.

  • HallowedFaithHallowedFaith Call me Cloud. Registered User regular
    #NotMyNintendo




    Sorry, couldn't help myself. Haha.

    I'm making video games. DesignBy.Cloud
  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    Given how much consternation is going around about the Switch's friend system, potential cloud sharing, and the like, I'm going to just assume that Nintendo's initiative on any of these fronts is not going to emerge tomorrow evening, fully formed, and will instead be a Work In Progress that will easily continue throughout the rest of the year, if not longer.

    Know what would be better?

    If they had all that shit sorted on day one.

  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    I wish I was excited for the announcement tonight.

  • DirtyDirty Registered User regular
    Enlong wrote: »
    I wish I was excited for the announcement tonight.

    I'll be excited on you're behalf.

  • HallowedFaithHallowedFaith Call me Cloud. Registered User regular
    I'll share that!

    I'm making video games. DesignBy.Cloud
  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Heh. Thanks.

    I'll still watch it, of course. See what happens.

  • Linespider5Linespider5 ALL HAIL KING KILLMONGER Registered User regular
    edited January 2017
    Given how much consternation is going around about the Switch's friend system, potential cloud sharing, and the like, I'm going to just assume that Nintendo's initiative on any of these fronts is not going to emerge tomorrow evening, fully formed, and will instead be a Work In Progress that will easily continue throughout the rest of the year, if not longer.

    Know what would be better?

    If they had all that shit sorted on day one.

    Oh, I quite agree. But I'm basing my assumptions on past behavior, if you will. So while I would LIKE to expect this kind of development from Nintendo, I'm not going to be shocked or upset about these things not being there again.

    There is a good argument that cloud saving is hardly new at all. But, again, Nintendo-as good as they often are with product design, they are quite loathe to use stuff they didn't come up with themselves. So they've got wheels to reinvent and all that. Because that's what they do.

    Linespider5 on
  • Skull2185Skull2185 Registered User regular
    "Limited" preorders in NY is kind of worrisome. I mean, I'm sure every retailer will only have so many preorders available, but making special note of limited preoders a the nintendo store(I assume) in NY seems odd.

    Like, they wouldn't be silly enough to do that artificial scarcity thing they're so fond of with a new console, right?

    Everyone has a price. Throw enough gold around and someone will risk disintegration.
  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    How did the artificial scarcity thing work out with the Wii U?

    I'd say the Switch has much more in common with that then the NES Classic, in terms of price range, market, and and so forth.

    Then again, a lot, though not all, of "internet scarcity" feels like overblown rumors nowadays. I remember seeing PSVR's on store shelves the day after launch, then the week after launch.

  • WordherderWordherder Registered User regular
    Eh, Nintendo doesn't do artificial scarcity. They do almost absurd caution, since they hate the thought of stuff rotting on store shelves. Console production takes quite some time (usually companies start up 5-6 months before launch), and they likely lowballed the number in the fear the thing would trundle out like the Wii U. And even after realizing that the Switch reveal got a ton of people genuinely excited, it'll probably take a couple months for supply and demand to even out.

    Unless the thing becomes Wii popular. If so, god help us all.

    Why the crap did I ever make my original name "cloudeagle?"
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