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Succession Non-Crisis [Chat]: Publius Aelius Hadrianus Augustus

RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
In 138AD, the Emperor of Rome was dying

Hadrian, builder of walls and divine cults to dead lovers, was succumbing to congestive heart failure, and if he died...there was a surprisingly comprehensive succession plan in effect.

Being gay, Hadrian never had kids, so he had to do what Trajan and Nerva did: Adopt someone as his heir. So he chose the pretty bland 50 year old Titus Fulvus Antoninus to be his heir.

The twist is Antoninus also had to adopt a seventeen year old boy called Marcus Annius Verrus. This leads some people to think Hadrian really wanted Marcus to succeed him, but the lessons of Caligula and Nero showed that youth and power mixed badly. So let Antoninus be emperor for a decade and let Marcus grow up.

And this plan pretty much played out as expected, except that Antoninus lived into his seventies, meaning Marcus didn't become emperor until he was 40. Not that he was terrible with that lost decade. But still, Hadrian's plan was honored, with the only twist that the now Emperor Marcus Aurelius also had his adoptive brother Lucius be declared Co-Emperor, the first official time this was done, but far from the last. And Antoninus and Marcus were great emperors, so Hadrian made a good call!

Contrast to Marcus Aurelius' decision to invest his not-adoptive son Commodus with the succession and how Commodus was pretty awful. Youth plus power: Not even once.

This is the [chat] you get when there isn't a succession crisis. Nominate a succession crisis I should discuss next time Geth's nominees flake out!

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  • Captain UltraCaptain Ultra low resolution pictures of birds Registered User regular
    you're the nominee who flaked out though?

  • DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    Time to learn!

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    Is this chat for the handsome-impaired?

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  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    By one minute!

    My successor didn't wait ten minutes!

  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    Drez wrote: »
    Is this chat for the handsome-impaired?

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    Hmm

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    By one minute!

    My successor didn't wait ten minutes!

    I jumped the gun, that's how I got a kid actually.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
  • PowerpuppiesPowerpuppies drinking coffee in the mountain cabinRegistered User regular
    edited October 2016
    This coffee is TOO HOT

    Powerpuppies on
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  • DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    edited October 2016
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgh3LG-qbsU

    this video is called Spinning

    DasUberEdward on
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  • Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Make Ready. We Hunt.Registered User, Moderator, Administrator admin
    Two [chat]s, both alike in dignity,
    In fair Verona where we lay our scene.
    From ancient grudge break to new mutiny,
    Where civil blood makes civil butts unclean.

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  • syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products, Transition Team regular
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    Let's play Mario Kart or something...
  • DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    edited October 2016
    syndalis wrote: »

    *nods poppily*

    DasUberEdward on
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  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    I ain't going down like some modern day Britannicus! I will resume my rightful place!

  • SummaryJudgmentSummaryJudgment Grab the hottest iron you can find, stride in the Tower’s front door Registered User regular
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgh3LG-qbsU

    this video is called Spinning

    M1 M1 M1 M1 F

  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    This thread is having a Justinian style resurgence.

  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    I feel like someone else should make a [chat] just so you keep having to bump this one forever when no one makes one

    Allegedly a voice of reason.
  • descdesc Goretexing to death Registered User regular
    lol I was about to post one if no one else did but this one amuses me

    this cheeky return

  • descdesc Goretexing to death Registered User regular
    this poppy stuff is so october, though

  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgh3LG-qbsU

    this video is called Spinning

    Is she spinning?

    Or am I?

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  • descdesc Goretexing to death Registered User regular
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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    desc wrote: »
    this poppy stuff is so october, though

    memba poppy

    Allegedly a voice of reason.
  • CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    I support this thread with my dogloaf
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    Happiness is within reach!
  • descdesc Goretexing to death Registered User regular
    progress: 65%

    this is pretty slow

    I wonder if this stick is usb 3.0 or 2.0

  • kedinikkedinik Registered User regular
    RMS, is the US in a succession crisis right now

    Like, a crisis because the successor is just the worst

  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    more like suckscession crisis

    Allegedly a voice of reason.
  • The EnderThe Ender Registered User regular
    I was going to post Nuclear [chat]


    *wipes sweat from brow*


    Thankfully we were all saved

    With Love and Courage
  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    kedinik wrote: »
    RMS, is the US in a succession crisis right now

    Like, a crisis because the successor is just the worst

    Going from Marcus Aurelius to Commodus, pretty much

  • tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    edited November 2016
    The best way to bury myself away for 4 years is to make a man cave and lift until I can break someone else's spine

    tyrannus on
  • SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    So far my only Black Friday acquisition
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    Don't ask me silly questions
    I won't play silly games
    I'm just a simple choo choo train
    And i'll always be the same

  • navgoosenavgoose Registered User regular
    I'm a few easily obtained items from having my own submarine in the survive'n'gather game, Subnautica.

  • descdesc Goretexing to death Registered User regular
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  • descdesc Goretexing to death Registered User regular
    70%

    i'm dying here

  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    Ooh, snow on the bottom of the screen!

  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    japan wrote: »
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    wow have I had a steam account that long?

    I signed up the day half-life 2 released

    My steam id and password are still written on a scrap of paper in my half life 2 DVD case

    I downloaded it from Steam. It might well have been my first all digital purchases

    I remember that being v controversial at the time w/ the slashdot crowd

    DRM that requires you to be online?

    Fetchez la canapé évanouisse

  • kedinikkedinik Registered User regular
    kedinik wrote: »
    RMS, is the US in a succession crisis right now

    Like, a crisis because the successor is just the worst

    Going from Marcus Aurelius to Commodus, pretty much

    During 191, the city of Rome was extensively damaged by a fire that raged for several days, during which many public buildings including the Temple of Pax, the Temple of Vesta and parts of the imperial palace were destroyed.

    Perhaps seeing this as an opportunity, early in 192 Commodus, declaring himself the new Romulus, ritually re-founded Rome, renaming the city Colonia Lucia Annia Commodiana. All the months of the year were renamed to correspond exactly with his (now twelve) names: Lucius, Aelius, Aurelius, Commodus, Augustus, Herculeus, Romanus, Exsuperatorius, Amazonius, Invictus, Felix, Pius. The legions were renamed Commodianae, the fleet which imported grain from Africa was termed Alexandria Commodiana Togata, the Senate was entitled the Commodian Fortunate Senate, his palace and the Roman people themselves were all given the name Commodianus, and the day on which these reforms were decreed was to be called Dies Commodianus.

    This checks out

  • Kid PresentableKid Presentable Registered User regular
    Oh shit did it just get frosty in here?

  • Havelock2.0Havelock2.0 What are you? Some kind of half-assed astronaut?Registered User regular
    desc wrote: »
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    I support TES Elsweyr

    You go in the cage, cage goes in the water, you go in the water. Shark's in the water, our shark.
  • PodlyPodly you unzipped me! it's all coming back! i don't like it!Registered User regular
    this lirac is pretty good

    nice herbs and spice and forest floor

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  • A Kobold's KoboldA Kobold's Kobold He/Him MississippiRegistered User regular
    I bet all our Kiwi friends are angry at the forum's ignorance of the Southern Hemisphere.

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  • simonwolfsimonwolf i can feel a difference today, a differenceRegistered User regular
    ho ho ho

  • wafflesmageewafflesmagee I like pancakes. Registered User regular
    I went to get lunch today and the guy in front of me in line made the lady behind the counter cry. The guy went from calm to irate in like three seconds and started legit yelling at her.

    She said she was the only one there and the people on Wednesday didn't properly put stuff away so she had to throw out a lot (because they were closed Thursday) and she was trying to catch up and the guy was not at all understanding. I just didn't understand why he was getting so upset over a tuna sandwich.

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