He's got a debatable patient list [Doctor Strange]

Snicketysnick

Doctor Strange opens in "International" (ie non-US) screens tomorrow (Tuesday, 25th October), US audiences have a week or so of baited breath and spoiler dodging before the film opens on November 4th.



In which a top surgeon gets injured and embarks on a quest to regain his prowess...only to stumble into something altogether more interesting.

Featuring trippy visuals, a groovy soundtrack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSzx-zryEgM

(Credits song apparently, bear that in mind if you want to keep the surprise)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4uoNAFfvKg

And a fabulous cast including the internet's favourite mad lib Benedict Cumberbatch,


Tilda Swinton,


Mads Mikkelsen


and Chiwetel Ejiofor



Early impressions are apparently good and some have compared it favourably to Iron Man the first, which sounds OK to me. I'm off to see it on Thursday, but I thought I'd put this up now for folks tomorrow. As always, use spoiler tags and make them marked

Fakefaux

Goddamnit, I already know I'm too invested in this and will both love/hate it.

Ceno

Hey, my name's Stephen!

I will immediately use my wizard powers for evil.

DouglasDanger

When is the USA release date?

Snicketysnick

I am not really sure but I think it's November 4th?

I'll check because yeah that should be in the OP

it is, hurrah!

SanderJK

Ceno wrote: »

Hey, my name's Stephen!

I will immediately use my wizard powers for evil.

Very unsurprising

Fakefaux

SanderJK wrote: »

Ceno wrote: »

Hey, my name's Stephen!

I will immediately use my wizard powers for evil.

Very unsurprising

BlankZoe

Benedict Cumberbatch confirmed that Stephen isn't just appearing in Infinity War, he will, at some point, officially join The Avengers as a full-fledged member of the team.

-Tal

dr strange seems a bit Above the avengers

BlankZoe

-Tal wrote: »

dr strange seems a bit Above the avengers

Probably not MCU Strange

It seems like they're definitely going more "powerful sorcerer" versus "basically godlike magician that regularly battles actual gods across all planes of existence"

Lalabox

seems to come out on the 27th here

jgeis

I don't know anything about Dr. Strange, but I tagged along with my girlfriend and our roommate to a "drink and draw" and the model is in full Dr. Strange cosplay. It's AMAZING.

-Tal

Post credits

mid credits

apparently cut from thor 3, Thor and strange talk about finding odin on earth

Post credits

mordo kills a dude and is like I'm gonna kill all the sorcerers

honovere

So some critics describe it as visually great but with qite a dumb story. I wasn't sure wether to see it in cinema or later on at home but the latter would probably not play to its strenghts.

Legacy

From the preview I went to, IMAX 3D is the way to go. Those trippy shots of other dimensions just look amazing in 3D.

UnbreakableVow

How did I miss that Giacchino is scoring this?

Or maybe I knew and forgot

sarukun

I am seeing this shit in less than two hours.

I will come in here and say if I liked it and then I will leave until November fourth when I can talk about it with more than two people.

Turambar

Huh, for some reason this isn't coming out on the international date here

At least I got tickets for the 3rd

Too used to getting Marvel movies before the US, don't know if I could go back to dodging spoilers

Mr. G

This is maybe the first Marvel movie that I am coming to specifically for the actors and visual spectacle

Almost every other time I watch these things for the characters first and foremost

But man, Tilda Swinton and Mads Mikkelsen are in this dang thing and I gots to see that!

a5ehren

-Tal wrote: »

dr strange seems a bit Above the avengers

Couldn't you say that about Vision as well?

wirehead26

I'm guessing MCU Dr. Strange power set will be more Brian Bendis level where he's severely depowered compared to his earlier incarnations.

honovere

Strange just got depowered in the comics, too, but who knows how long that will stick with Marvel's current approach.

Turambar

I assume he'll get the same treatment as Thor

BlankZoe

wirehead26 wrote: »

I'm guessing MCU Dr. Strange power set will be more Brian Bendis level where he's severely depowered compared to his earlier incarnations.

Brian Bendis Strange was initially at full-strength and it was the dumbest thing

He couldn't stop a plane falling out of the sky because he "couldn't focus"

Fakefaux

Pretty much all the MCU heroes are depowered. Hulk can't stomp the planet in two or instantly heal any wound. Thor can't create storms that could blanket the entire US or teleport between dimension with just his hammer. Iron Man can't project forcefields or store his nanite armor in the hollows of his bones. Strange, likewise, will probably not be able to blow up planets and stars like he did in his early appearances.

That said, I think he'll still end up being one of the more powerful MCU heroes. Partly because they seems to be going all in on the "dimensional protector" version of Strange, not just the "polices magic on Earth" version later comics have sometimes presented. If you're protecting an entire universe from extradimensional threats, you are going to need a pretty robust tool set to pull that of. Just look at this quote from Kevin Feige:

Kevin Feige wrote:

There are people inhabiting the same world that are stopping buildings from falling down, robots from doing this, aliens from doing that – these people in this movie are stopping inter-dimensional forces from wiping out all of reality.

So although it doesn’t necessarily come up, we’ve always assumed that the sorcerers have bigger fish to fry when they hear there’s something in a city or there’s a bank being robbed. They’re not thinking about it. They’re thinking if we don’t keep vigilant our sense of reality will disappear, and there won’t be a bank to rob and there won’t be a city to be conquered.

That sure makes it sound like Strange, moving forward, will be his regular ol' fighting gods and demons beyond the ken of the Avengers self. Even in the clips previews he seems to be pretty powerful, capable of teleportation, dimensional travel, astral projection, energy blasts/shields, and time manipulation. That puts him pretty far ahead of most of the MCU supers. Plus, I'm getting the impression from a lot of the aforementioned footage that, for around two thirds of the movie, Strange is still an adept, outclassed by Kaecilius, his spells occasionally failing or not working right. He probably gets some big power up in the last act when he finally learns to "shed his ego" or "embrace who he is" or something like that.

BlankZoe

I mean Benedict Cumberbatch himself said he was going to be an Avenger, so he seems to be tackling Avengers-level threats going forward.

tzeentchling

I suspect he's also the only superhero who really understands how to use his Infinity Stone, among all the heroes. Vision comes close but still doesn't understand fully, Thor knows what they are but not how to use them, and Loki has a good idea but isn't telling anyone.

Fakefaux

Blankzilla wrote: »

I mean Benedict Cumberbatch himself said he was going to be an Avenger, so he seems to be tackling Avengers-level threats going forward.

I'm assuming he just means he's joining for the Infinity Wars movies; I generally tend to put more weight on what Feige says than the actors since he's the one in charge of the big picture. That said, I think a lot is going to depend on popularity. If Strange is a big hit, then yeah, I think he'd likely be involved in the post IW Avengers movies.

Though that's going to take some tricky balancing. Strange has always had a certain amount of difficulty fitting into team books in the comics.

BlankZoe

Fakefaux wrote: »

Blankzilla wrote: »

I mean Benedict Cumberbatch himself said he was going to be an Avenger, so he seems to be tackling Avengers-level threats going forward.

I'm assuming he just means he's joining for the Infinity Wars movies; I generally tend to put more weight on what Feige says than the actors since he's the one in charge of the big picture. That said, I think a lot is going to depend on popularity. If Strange is a big hit, then yeah, I think he'd likely be involved in the post IW Avengers movies.

Though that's going to take some tricky balancing. Strange has always had a certain amount of difficulty fitting into team books in the comics.

Nah, he explicitly said he was joining the Avengers. He had been already announced as being in Infinity War, this was in response to a fan question about him joining the team.

Fakefaux

Blankzilla wrote: »

Fakefaux wrote: »

Blankzilla wrote: »

I mean Benedict Cumberbatch himself said he was going to be an Avenger, so he seems to be tackling Avengers-level threats going forward.

I'm assuming he just means he's joining for the Infinity Wars movies; I generally tend to put more weight on what Feige says than the actors since he's the one in charge of the big picture. That said, I think a lot is going to depend on popularity. If Strange is a big hit, then yeah, I think he'd likely be involved in the post IW Avengers movies.

Though that's going to take some tricky balancing. Strange has always had a certain amount of difficulty fitting into team books in the comics.

Nah, he explicitly said he was joining the Avengers. He had been already announced as being in Infinity War, this was in response to a fan question about him joining the team.

I think you're reading too much into his off-the-cuff remark at a press junket.

-Tal

I don't mean in terms of power I mean in terms of he's got his own stuff to deal with that the avengers are not equipped to

As an honorary member who they call in when they have a magical threat yeah, but it's hard to imagine him day to day in avengers hq running drills with cap

BlankZoe

I mean

It seems pretty dang obvious to me that he will join the Avengers, I guess?

So far there have been no solo MCU flicks made where the star hasn't joined the Avengers

And he is definitely a big name and unique character to throw into the mix

If Ant-Man joins the Avengers, Strange is probably gonna

Mr. G

Y'all, if they say he's going to join the Avengers

That means he's going to be an Avenger

-Tal

But then the mcu avengers were initially understood as a reserve force anyway, perhaps they will return to that concept

Chincymcchilla

Fakefaux wrote: »

Blankzilla wrote: »

Fakefaux wrote: »

Blankzilla wrote: »

I mean Benedict Cumberbatch himself said he was going to be an Avenger, so he seems to be tackling Avengers-level threats going forward.

I'm assuming he just means he's joining for the Infinity Wars movies; I generally tend to put more weight on what Feige says than the actors since he's the one in charge of the big picture. That said, I think a lot is going to depend on popularity. If Strange is a big hit, then yeah, I think he'd likely be involved in the post IW Avengers movies.

Though that's going to take some tricky balancing. Strange has always had a certain amount of difficulty fitting into team books in the comics.

Nah, he explicitly said he was joining the Avengers. He had been already announced as being in Infinity War, this was in response to a fan question about him joining the team.

I think you're reading too much into his off-the-cuff remark at a press junket.

I feel like directly ignoring a statement he made is way more selective hearing than blank is 'reading into it'

Fakefaux

Chincymcchilla wrote: »

Fakefaux wrote: »

Blankzilla wrote: »

Fakefaux wrote: »

Blankzilla wrote: »

I mean Benedict Cumberbatch himself said he was going to be an Avenger, so he seems to be tackling Avengers-level threats going forward.

I'm assuming he just means he's joining for the Infinity Wars movies; I generally tend to put more weight on what Feige says than the actors since he's the one in charge of the big picture. That said, I think a lot is going to depend on popularity. If Strange is a big hit, then yeah, I think he'd likely be involved in the post IW Avengers movies.

Though that's going to take some tricky balancing. Strange has always had a certain amount of difficulty fitting into team books in the comics.

Nah, he explicitly said he was joining the Avengers. He had been already announced as being in Infinity War, this was in response to a fan question about him joining the team.

I think you're reading too much into his off-the-cuff remark at a press junket.

I feel like directly ignoring a statement he made is way more selective hearing than blank is 'reading into it'

I read the comment Cumberbatch made. It was a just a vague "Oh, I'm going to be in the Avengers" sort of statement. Which, yeah, we already knew he was going to be in the next Avengers movie. I don't get the impression he meant any more than that.

Chincymcchilla

Fakefaux wrote: »

Chincymcchilla wrote: »

Fakefaux wrote: »

Blankzilla wrote: »

Fakefaux wrote: »

Blankzilla wrote: »

I mean Benedict Cumberbatch himself said he was going to be an Avenger, so he seems to be tackling Avengers-level threats going forward.

I'm assuming he just means he's joining for the Infinity Wars movies; I generally tend to put more weight on what Feige says than the actors since he's the one in charge of the big picture. That said, I think a lot is going to depend on popularity. If Strange is a big hit, then yeah, I think he'd likely be involved in the post IW Avengers movies.

Though that's going to take some tricky balancing. Strange has always had a certain amount of difficulty fitting into team books in the comics.

Nah, he explicitly said he was joining the Avengers. He had been already announced as being in Infinity War, this was in response to a fan question about him joining the team.

I think you're reading too much into his off-the-cuff remark at a press junket.

I feel like directly ignoring a statement he made is way more selective hearing than blank is 'reading into it'

I read the comment Cumberbatch made. It was a just a vague "Oh, I'm going to be in the Avengers" sort of statement. Which, yeah, we already knew he was going to be in the next Avengers movie. I don't get the impression he meant any more than that.

he literally says "he's going to be an avenger"

You're doing a weird word twisting thing for some reason to get that to mean something else

Chincymcchilla

Benedict Cumberbatch wrote:

Oh yeah, that’s it, he’s a superhero, he’s going to be an Avenger

-Tal

I would like strange, thor, and Wanda to be magic friends

BlankZoe

-Tal wrote: »

I would like strange, thor, and Wanda to be magic friends

And Danny!

and Danny...

Fakefaux

Chincymcchilla wrote: »

Benedict Cumberbatch wrote:

Oh yeah, that’s it, he’s a superhero, he’s going to be an Avenger

The question he was asked was specifically if he was going to be in Infinity War. His full response was:

“There’s so much going on in this film [Doctor Strange]. There’s such a great story arc, there are so many great challenges for me, as an actor, in every department, from wirework to kung fu to great dialogue scenes with the most incredible cast and great characters. put it on the back-burner that I was playing a superhero… At the premiere, which was the first time I’d seen the film, and – I won’t spoil it for you – but there’s a moment near the end where I thought, ‘Oh yeah, that’s it, he’s a superhero, he’s going to be an Avenger,’ so that’s really cool.”

To me that just reads as confirmation he's going to be in the next Avengers movie and not much else.