I'm excited for the shitstorm when they ban non-self driving cars from city streets
Volvo has stopped marking its self driving prototypes as such because people have figured out that they drive super defensively and as such can be "bullied" into yielding even when they have priority.
What if we took all the people in the rust belt that need jobs and made them government subsidized uber drivers?
What if we stopped being OK with using third world countries as our private slave labor pool and forced corporations to bring international manufacturing facilities up to US safety and salary standards otherwise they're hit with massive tariffs on anything produced outside of the US thereby negating the cost savings of exploiting other countries and thus actually returning those jobs to the US
ha
ha ha
yeah...
but are you ready to pay 50%* more for everything
*number completely made up, I wonder what it really is
From what I've gathered with economics of scale, it'd maybe be close to like 10% more.
If apple brought foxconn's industry to the US, we'd only end up paying like $10-20 more for an iphone, and, what's crazy, is they could 100% eat that cost if they wanted to.
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
There's not going to be self driving cars outside rich people, guys. We lost. it's over. I'd be less surprised to find out we were getting rid of those pesky catalytic converters in cars than banning non self driving cars
Rich people will be the only ones that own cars anymore.
All you'll do is hit a button and the local depository sends you out a vehicle and whisks you to your destination, arriving within a minute or two of you pressing the button. Like a personal bus. Sure it might be a little sticky but the cameras inside should be able to tell who spilled a soda over everything and didn't bother to clean it up. Then they get fined it gets cleaned and we move on.
People suck and they're even worse drivers.
As a side note, DON'T CHANGE LANES WHEN TURNING. I cannot count the number of times I have seen narrowly avoided accidents when someone turns left into their own lane and someone turning right the other direction decides they want to scoot across a few lanes mid turn. STAY IN YOUR LANE *shakefist*
What if we took all the people in the rust belt that need jobs and made them government subsidized uber drivers?
What if we stopped being OK with using third world countries as our private slave labor pool and forced corporations to bring international manufacturing facilities up to US safety and salary standards otherwise they're hit with massive tariffs on anything produced outside of the US thereby negating the cost savings of exploiting other countries and thus actually returning those jobs to the US
ha
ha ha
yeah...
but are you ready to pay 50%* more for everything
*number completely made up, I wonder what it really is
Much higher. Whole number multiples at least.
Buying a mold in China instead of having one made in the US is like 20% of the cost and has a lower lead time by around 25%, with ocean freight included.
Folks have no idea what they're asking for in their isolationist fantasy land.
What if we took all the people in the rust belt that need jobs and made them government subsidized uber drivers?
What if we stopped being OK with using third world countries as our private slave labor pool and forced corporations to bring international manufacturing facilities up to US safety and salary standards otherwise they're hit with massive tariffs on anything produced outside of the US thereby negating the cost savings of exploiting other countries and thus actually returning those jobs to the US
ha
ha ha
yeah...
but are you ready to pay 50%* more for everything
*number completely made up, I wonder what it really is
From what I've gathered with economics of scale, it'd maybe be close to like 10% more.
If apple brought foxconn's industry to the US, we'd only end up paying like $10-20 more for an iphone, and, what's crazy, is they could 100% eat that cost if they wanted to.
$10-$20 on an iphone is like 2-3% of the retail price, that's p insignificant!
no company is going to eat costs they don't have to eat tho
Please consider the environment before printing this post.
There's not going to be self driving cars outside rich people, guys. We lost. it's over. I'd be less surprised to find out we were getting rid of those pesky catalytic converters in cars than banning non self driving cars
Self driving cars have become a silicon valley darling, a neoliberal totem of the march of progress
They will align with business interests and the moneyed elite even for mass transit
More troubling is private enterprise competing with public transit and then turning to exploitative practices after dominating the market
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LudiousI just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered Userregular
edited November 2016
The future is pretty fucking certain in that it will be bad. There are a lot of varying degrees of bad but bad is FOR SURE the adjective.
Now I will do my best to shut up when this isn't the topic but the everything is going to be OK thing is super played out and dangerously wallowing in denial at this point.
What if we took all the people in the rust belt that need jobs and made them government subsidized uber drivers?
What if we stopped being OK with using third world countries as our private slave labor pool and forced corporations to bring international manufacturing facilities up to US safety and salary standards otherwise they're hit with massive tariffs on anything produced outside of the US thereby negating the cost savings of exploiting other countries and thus actually returning those jobs to the US
ha
ha ha
yeah...
but are you ready to pay 50%* more for everything
*number completely made up, I wonder what it really is
arguably it would only increase prices marginally
cheap labor doesn't necessarily only mean cheap goods
it also means higher profit margins
there will have to be a balance between corporations wanting to maintain their margins, but also the suppressed demand caused by higher prices
ideally, lower prices win out over short term profits, but
Allegedly a voice of reason.
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Stockholm is pretty cool in regards to bomb shelters and stuff. A lot of public buildings as well as apartment houses have them. In my previous apartment there were blast doors in the cellar where we had the laundry room and our personal storages - so in need you could go down there and close them. That had air filters too you could crank on.
Also by mandate I think there is one gas mask per citizen living in Kommuner (a Kommun is lika a county I think but probably smaller in size generally).
And in the city there are two enormous bunkers that I know of. By day they are parking garages and stuff. One is directly below the city center and I think that one can hold at least 10,000 people. There is also one inside a cliff under one of the other areas of town. I think that one is also a parking garage usually.
PSN: Honkalot
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amateurhourOne day I'll be professionalhourThe woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered Userregular
I mean right now I can take an uber to and from work for about $30 as long as they're not in price gouge mode.
Like that business model works. They'll find a way to get that cost down to $10 or less by removing the driver from the equation and I won't need a car. I'd be okay with that.
are YOU on the beer list?
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OnTheLastCastlelet's keep it haimish for the peripateticRegistered Userregular
so yes, your tshirts won't be $10 anymore, they'll probably be $15, but, you won't get lead poisoning from your walmart flip flops anymore either
A great deal of companies have been coming back to the US to manufacture, because a US robot can produce a million T-Shirts significantly cheaper cheaper than slave labor.
The future is pretty fucking certain in that it will be bad. There are a lot of varying degrees of bad but bad is FOR SURE the adjective.
Now I will do my best to shut up when this isn't the topic but the everything is going to be OK thing is super played out and dangerously wallowing in denial at this point.
super bad for non whites, and pretty garbage for people who don't have at least 10 mill in the bank
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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OnTheLastCastlelet's keep it haimish for the peripateticRegistered Userregular
My girlfriend is moving in... to the apartment complex next door to mine.
What if we took all the people in the rust belt that need jobs and made them government subsidized uber drivers?
What if we stopped being OK with using third world countries as our private slave labor pool and forced corporations to bring international manufacturing facilities up to US safety and salary standards otherwise they're hit with massive tariffs on anything produced outside of the US thereby negating the cost savings of exploiting other countries and thus actually returning those jobs to the US
ha
ha ha
yeah...
but are you ready to pay 50%* more for everything
*number completely made up, I wonder what it really is
Absolutely. Because it would have a knock-on effect. Jobs come back, more people have money, more money gets spent, more jobs come back, and so on.
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I'm excited for the shitstorm when they ban non-self driving cars from city streets
Volvo has stopped marking its self driving prototypes as such because people have figured out that they drive super defensively and as such can be "bullied" into yielding even when they have priority.
Take that, Skynet
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zepherinRussian warship, go fuck yourselfRegistered Userregular
As a pedestrian, I am 95% certain that most people who change lanes while turning are not aware they're changing lanes, are barely aware that there are lanes, and will call you a fucking cunt fuck if you tell them they did something wrong
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amateurhourOne day I'll be professionalhourThe woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered Userregular
We just need teleporters.
Like stand on a pad and BAMF you're at work.
Let's get on that.
are YOU on the beer list?
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Sir Landsharkresting shark faceRegistered Userregular
edited November 2016
You know what's interesting, is like, for example, Roads and Bridges
Bridges can be really fucking expensive. Standard highway overpass might run $3-5 million. River crossing bridge maybe $100-$200 million. A couple miles of interstate in the Quad Cities, with all the new bridges and ramp bridges is going to be over a billion dollars. More than 50% of that cost is labor!
So I guess, when you consider how third world labor is like, a fraction of what we pay here in the states, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of things were made hella cheap by outsourcing.
But I don't really know how much and surely it's gonna depend on the product.
Sir Landshark on
Please consider the environment before printing this post.
What if we took all the people in the rust belt that need jobs and made them government subsidized uber drivers?
What if we stopped being OK with using third world countries as our private slave labor pool and forced corporations to bring international manufacturing facilities up to US safety and salary standards otherwise they're hit with massive tariffs on anything produced outside of the US thereby negating the cost savings of exploiting other countries and thus actually returning those jobs to the US
ha
ha ha
yeah...
but are you ready to pay 50%* more for everything
*number completely made up, I wonder what it really is
Absolutely. Because it would have a knock-on effect. Jobs come back, more people have money, more money gets spent, more jobs come back, and so on.
The other upside to it.
It'll suck for some, but, it'll be a boon for pretty much everyone that isn't stockpiling wealth outside of the US because they hate paying taxes.
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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jungleroomxIt's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovelsRegistered Userregular
You know what's interesting, is like, for example, Roads and Bridges
Bridges can be really fucking expensive. Standard highway overpass might run $3-5 million. River crossing bridge maybe $100-$200 million. A couple miles of interstate in the Quad Cities, with all the new bridges and ramp bridges is going to be over a billion dollars. More than 50% of that cost is labor!
So I guess, when you consider how third world labor is like, a fraction of what we pay here in the states, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of things were made hella cheap by outsourcing.
But I don't really know how much and surely it's gonna depend on the product.
I don't want cheap bridges made by Malaysian children who are bad at stitching
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Sir Landsharkresting shark faceRegistered Userregular
The future is pretty fucking certain in that it will be bad. There are a lot of varying degrees of bad but bad is FOR SURE the adjective.
Now I will do my best to shut up when this isn't the topic but the everything is going to be OK thing is super played out and dangerously wallowing in denial at this point.
who are you arguing with
Please consider the environment before printing this post.
That Stand Together FFXV trailer gives me goosebumps every time I watch it, which means it is fantastic marketing but also oh man they perfectly captured so many good feelings.
I look forward to humming the chocobo theme at waffles for months
You know what's interesting, is like, for example, Roads and Bridges
Bridges can be really fucking expensive. Standard highway overpass might run $3-5 million. River crossing bridge maybe $100-$200 million. A couple miles of interstate in the Quad Cities, with all the new bridges and ramp bridges is going to be over a billion dollars. More than 50% of that cost is labor!
So I guess, when you consider how third world labor is like, a fraction of what we pay here in the states, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of things were made hella cheap by outsourcing.
But I don't really know how much and surely it's gonna depend on the product.
I don't want cheap bridges made by Malaysian children who are bad at stitching
I'm fairly positive a robot could build roads and maybe even bridges at this point. You'll need humans to actually lay it out, but the labor for it is probably well within the realm of possibilities for robotics.
I've seen a robot build a skyscraper for christ's sake
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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amateurhourOne day I'll be professionalhourThe woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered Userregular
I'll be honest. I'm pretty sure every time they used a transporter, they were murdered and replaced with an identical clone.
Do not want.
It's not like they knew.
Also that's not true because if ANYONE ever figured that out then everyone that stepped out of the transporter would just instantly look like Brad Pitt and ScarJo.
We'd have an entire planet of DD ScarJos and Pitts with 9 inch dongs.
I discovered recently that there's a decommissioned missile silo outside the town next to my town. Used to be a part of NORAD or the Triangle out here in Cali before the missile building stuff at Mather was shut down.
I'm p sure this means the Russians still have it listed as a target for a nuke strike.
Which is just great!
The Sacramento area would get pasted simply because there is a high enough population density to hit it. Most cities over 50k likely make the Russian targeting list because when you have over 7k good sized warheads then there is no reason to be stingy.
I live in the foothills currently, so I was hoping for some sort of protection from the Valley getting glassed, if that ever happened.
but now that there's a silo nearby, it would probably still be listed as a target, so yeah. So much for that.
You're fucked. Even if the blast doesn't touch you. Even if the radiation and the fallout doesn't get you then you need to keep in mind that you're in a moderately wooded area. Take a moment to imagine just how many wildfires would be started by all of the various blasts all around California.
I'm sorry, let me give you some of the other follow on effects. Fallout will make it's way into the water supply. So you're gonna need to carefully filter all of your water. Any nuclear plant near you will contribute heavy metals to that nastiness. Then you have stuff like untreated sewage overflow that's gonna make lots of fun diseases spread. Basically the best possible individual outcome after a nuclear war is to be in the blast area and die close to instantly.
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Volvo has stopped marking its self driving prototypes as such because people have figured out that they drive super defensively and as such can be "bullied" into yielding even when they have priority.
*revs engine in tribute to John Henry*
oh man I missed out on optimistic shaz?!?!
the future is not nearly as certain as chat seems to think it is
maybe im delusional
you can say im a dreamer
but im not the only one
I hope someday you will join us
From what I've gathered with economics of scale, it'd maybe be close to like 10% more.
If apple brought foxconn's industry to the US, we'd only end up paying like $10-20 more for an iphone, and, what's crazy, is they could 100% eat that cost if they wanted to.
Rich people will be the only ones that own cars anymore.
All you'll do is hit a button and the local depository sends you out a vehicle and whisks you to your destination, arriving within a minute or two of you pressing the button. Like a personal bus. Sure it might be a little sticky but the cameras inside should be able to tell who spilled a soda over everything and didn't bother to clean it up. Then they get fined it gets cleaned and we move on.
People suck and they're even worse drivers.
As a side note, DON'T CHANGE LANES WHEN TURNING. I cannot count the number of times I have seen narrowly avoided accidents when someone turns left into their own lane and someone turning right the other direction decides they want to scoot across a few lanes mid turn. STAY IN YOUR LANE *shakefist*
Shaz you are overvaluing sanity
Much higher. Whole number multiples at least.
Buying a mold in China instead of having one made in the US is like 20% of the cost and has a lower lead time by around 25%, with ocean freight included.
Folks have no idea what they're asking for in their isolationist fantasy land.
$10-$20 on an iphone is like 2-3% of the retail price, that's p insignificant!
no company is going to eat costs they don't have to eat tho
Self driving cars have become a silicon valley darling, a neoliberal totem of the march of progress
They will align with business interests and the moneyed elite even for mass transit
More troubling is private enterprise competing with public transit and then turning to exploitative practices after dominating the market
Now I will do my best to shut up when this isn't the topic but the everything is going to be OK thing is super played out and dangerously wallowing in denial at this point.
arguably it would only increase prices marginally
cheap labor doesn't necessarily only mean cheap goods
it also means higher profit margins
there will have to be a balance between corporations wanting to maintain their margins, but also the suppressed demand caused by higher prices
ideally, lower prices win out over short term profits, but
Also by mandate I think there is one gas mask per citizen living in Kommuner (a Kommun is lika a county I think but probably smaller in size generally).
And in the city there are two enormous bunkers that I know of. By day they are parking garages and stuff. One is directly below the city center and I think that one can hold at least 10,000 people. There is also one inside a cliff under one of the other areas of town. I think that one is also a parking garage usually.
Like that business model works. They'll find a way to get that cost down to $10 or less by removing the driver from the equation and I won't need a car. I'd be okay with that.
i had an overpowering urge to gobble that knob so i done gobbled
super bad for non whites, and pretty garbage for people who don't have at least 10 mill in the bank
Absolutely. Because it would have a knock-on effect. Jobs come back, more people have money, more money gets spent, more jobs come back, and so on.
that's what they're counting on
it's...extraordinarily daunting
NNID: Hakkekage
Take that, Skynet
Like stand on a pad and BAMF you're at work.
Let's get on that.
Bridges can be really fucking expensive. Standard highway overpass might run $3-5 million. River crossing bridge maybe $100-$200 million. A couple miles of interstate in the Quad Cities, with all the new bridges and ramp bridges is going to be over a billion dollars. More than 50% of that cost is labor!
So I guess, when you consider how third world labor is like, a fraction of what we pay here in the states, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of things were made hella cheap by outsourcing.
But I don't really know how much and surely it's gonna depend on the product.
The other upside to it.
It'll suck for some, but, it'll be a boon for pretty much everyone that isn't stockpiling wealth outside of the US because they hate paying taxes.
Commitment saving throw.
beep beep
get ready for millions of people to become unemployed and all the economies built around trucking to also crash pew pew pew
or:
Do not want.
I don't want cheap bridges made by Malaysian children who are bad at stitching
who are you arguing with
pleasepaypreacher.net
I look forward to humming the chocobo theme at waffles for months
I'm fairly positive a robot could build roads and maybe even bridges at this point. You'll need humans to actually lay it out, but the labor for it is probably well within the realm of possibilities for robotics.
I've seen a robot build a skyscraper for christ's sake
It's not like they knew.
Also that's not true because if ANYONE ever figured that out then everyone that stepped out of the transporter would just instantly look like Brad Pitt and ScarJo.
We'd have an entire planet of DD ScarJos and Pitts with 9 inch dongs.
No one would complain after that.
I'm sorry, let me give you some of the other follow on effects. Fallout will make it's way into the water supply. So you're gonna need to carefully filter all of your water. Any nuclear plant near you will contribute heavy metals to that nastiness. Then you have stuff like untreated sewage overflow that's gonna make lots of fun diseases spread. Basically the best possible individual outcome after a nuclear war is to be in the blast area and die close to instantly.
There is one of me. We don't need to go and start making extra copies of me.