Regarding trans folks as psycho murderers, it's been a while since I've watched it so I may be forgetting a few details, but I think buffalo bill is a very different case than other movies that invoke anti-transgender fears. The entire film is about women's fear of men and their objectification of women. Bill's skinning of women into a lady suit is literally breaking down women into their component parts for Bill to control, with his famous dancing scene treating womanhood as purely sexual stimulation - "would you fuck me? I'd fuck me." Bill is treating womanhood not as his natural identity, he is not driven to kill because he is trans, rather it is a totem that he takes sexual pleasure in his mastery over. Lecter specifically rebuts the idea that Bill is trans, and Clarice points out that there's no correlation between being trans and any kind of violent tendencies.
Bill obviously has some real fucked up views towards women and womanhood, but I mean, yeah, he's a serial killer of women. And he's based on a couple of real life serial killers who did do things like what Bill does.
See, I was thinking of the exact same scene when figuring out why I'm not bothered by the mentally ill/trans killer trope. (I just don't automatically make the "all mentally ill/trans people are evil/killers/wrong" connection; others see it and hate it, fair enough. I'm not denying it exists, I'm just stunned that people ever get that thought. It is, after all, "just a movie." But moving on.) I went looking for the quote about transsexuals being passive and came across an interesting article. It talked about how that scene is incredibly insulting to trans people and is a reminder of how they were treated in the past. Lector tells Starling to check with the three main trans surgery hospitals because Bill likely applied and was denied because he's not a "true" transsexual. And the implication isn't that he's pretending: it's that surgeons and doctors were gatekeepers. They determined who could and could not have the surgery. If they didn't think someone would make a "convincing" transition they were denied. That's pretty fucked up. I was only 12 when it came out, so I was far removed from the politics at the time, but apparently is was being protested pretty heavily at the Oscars when it won (or so the article states). The dialogue in that scene isn't supporting a positive view of transsexuals, it's regurgitating the medically held beliefs at the time which were quite bad, it seems. Also the article implied that the line about Bill's condition being "much more terrifying" than being a transsexual was a huge slap in the face of trans people because it implies that the thought of being trans is, in itself, terrifying. I don't agree with that particular view, but I can totally see it now that it's been brought up.
It just proves that everything I like turns out to be "bad" in some way if I dig hard enough. *sigh*
Its ok to like problematic things, as long as you recognize they are problematic and reject those aspects.
That's a good way of putting it. It doesn't matter if I don't make the negative connection based on movies; there shouldn't be only negative portrayals presented. Which, sure, there are a few that aren't bad, but that's not great.
Also, liking problematic things while understating that they are is one thing. Finding out that most of the things you like and grew up liking are problematic is just depressing.
Oh man I was not aware about this A Dogs Purpose thing.
Which is what? It was on the news last night and it was a topic at lunch but I had no idea what they were talking about?
The video, which was released yesterday, appears to show a German shepherd named Hercules fighting his handler, who is trying to get him into a pool of turbulent water for one of the film's planned scenes.
Not gonna link the vid, obviously
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I have zero interest in seeing A Dog's Purpose even without that information. It's a movie basically designed to literally shred my fragile psyche into pieces. I've got enough to be depressed about.
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"People sure get sad when a dog dies in a movie. How can we take it to the next level?"
I don't have a cite on that, but since his retirement and comeback all of his fight scenes appear to be shot around making sure he isn't seen doing very much. It's a jarring change from his early films. I'm pretty sure either he can't or won't do those sort of scenes any more. Won't makes a lot of sense, he was pretty rough on his body.
Didn't he also have a mental breakdown? I recall he went into the jungle or something when filming a movie. Maybe he's just not mentally aware enough any longer.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
Didn't he also have a mental breakdown? I recall he went into the jungle or something when filming a movie. Maybe he's just not mentally aware enough any longer.
He had a rough time on Ong-Bak 2 and I think walked off set. I don't know if it was a full mental breakdown.
He did retire and become a monk for several years, but you know, that seems like a fun thing to do so I won't judge him for it.
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seems like a pretty great way to get your shit sorted out, to be honest
Didn't he also have a mental breakdown? I recall he went into the jungle or something when filming a movie. Maybe he's just not mentally aware enough any longer.
He had a rough time on Ong-Bak 2 and I think walked off set. I don't know if it was a full mental breakdown.
He did retire and become a monk for several years, but you know, that seems like a fun thing to do so I won't judge him for it.
Might have been studio copy to explain his absence why they said he had a breakdown.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
the rumor that was floating around at the time was jaa became a monk to get out of a few movies he was contracted to do. he wanted a break, and this was the only way to get it. don't know how much truth their is in that rumor, but that's a pretty dope loophole to exploit.
and yeah, he has been playing it pretty safe in most instances since returning, but in skin trade he definitely put in the work in his fight with michael jai white. it wasn't as sick as jaa classic, but the fight was not created via editing either.
but that might be because he was doing his friend dolph lundgren a favor.
I don't know, I could rewatch but Skin Trade was definitely in my head as an example of "Tony Jaa isn't good any more". That whole film didn't have a single memorable fight in it.
other than the michael jai white confrontation i totally agree that the fights were particularly bland and safe.
it seemed like everything was built around making that confrontation a setpiece, and i mean it's a pretty big "get" for the dtv action scene. i'm not saying it was mind-blowing, but it was definitely lengthy and jaa kept up his end of the bargain. it wasn't a dream fight, like i'd've liked, but i appreciated the effort? and that it was good enough it didn't need to be covered up with quick cuts.
i think I'm basically praising it with faint damning. it was a little better than average, which was more than i expected from 2015 tony jaa.
this movie is still fantastic, but man it really takes the look of modern film and really plays with the dreariness of that muted color palate to highlight the mood
so when you're in that black room, that empty space feels like a natural evolution.
i love this movie so much
i really wish more movie monsters were as alien as johannson is in this flick.
it's basically scarjo's best non-ghost world work
which, naturally, i have to watch next now that i mentioned it
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this movie is still fantastic, but man it really takes the look of modern film and really plays with the dreariness of that muted color palate to highlight the mood
so when you're in that black room, that empty space feels like a natural evolution.
i love this movie so much
i really wish more movie monsters were as alien as johannson is in this flick.
it's basically scarjo's best non-ghost world work
which, naturally, i have to watch next now that i mentioned it
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Its ok to like problematic things, as long as you recognize they are problematic and reject those aspects.
Also, liking problematic things while understating that they are is one thing. Finding out that most of the things you like and grew up liking are problematic is just depressing.
Which is what? It was on the news last night and it was a topic at lunch but I had no idea what they were talking about?
What!? No!!!
Steam
That's second for me followed by The Box.
Not gonna link the vid, obviously
"I know! Let's kill the dog over and over again!"
Because Tony Jaa can't fight no more
What? Why?
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Steam
it's the spiritual successor to Nine Lives in: trailers that I was sure were parodies
He had a rough time on Ong-Bak 2 and I think walked off set. I don't know if it was a full mental breakdown.
He did retire and become a monk for several years, but you know, that seems like a fun thing to do so I won't judge him for it.
Might have been studio copy to explain his absence why they said he had a breakdown.
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and yeah, he has been playing it pretty safe in most instances since returning, but in skin trade he definitely put in the work in his fight with michael jai white. it wasn't as sick as jaa classic, but the fight was not created via editing either.
but that might be because he was doing his friend dolph lundgren a favor.
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it seemed like everything was built around making that confrontation a setpiece, and i mean it's a pretty big "get" for the dtv action scene. i'm not saying it was mind-blowing, but it was definitely lengthy and jaa kept up his end of the bargain. it wasn't a dream fight, like i'd've liked, but i appreciated the effort? and that it was good enough it didn't need to be covered up with quick cuts.
i think I'm basically praising it with faint damning. it was a little better than average, which was more than i expected from 2015 tony jaa.
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Damn.
Man, Frank Grillo is absolutely nailing this audition to be The Punisher.
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this movie is still fantastic, but man it really takes the look of modern film and really plays with the dreariness of that muted color palate to highlight the mood
so when you're in that black room, that empty space feels like a natural evolution.
i love this movie so much
i really wish more movie monsters were as alien as johannson is in this flick.
it's basically scarjo's best non-ghost world work
which, naturally, i have to watch next now that i mentioned it
is it anywhere
like is there anywhere that they say "this is for life and if you try to leave we'll shackle you to the floor"?
Steam
easily
a lot of the ideas are good, but since there was no serialization, none of them ever panned out to anything
turns out if you make some of the highs of ghost world the comic into part of a narrative, it's fantastic
Excuse me, you're forgetting about The Island