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[Women's March on Washington] 100% peaceful march, millions participated, history made

So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
edited January 2017 in Debate and/or Discourse
On 1/21, thousands of people will march on the Capitol and in cities around the country to demonstrate to our government that we stand together in solidarity and in support of human rights, justice, and equity for all. This march was originally conceived as a Women's March due to the specific outcry and fervor for organization by women around the country after Trump's election, but has since specifically committed to inclusiveness and adopted a progressive statement of unity. The march is committed to nonviolence and peaceful demonstration by all who participate.

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THREAD GUIDELINES

This is a thread to discuss the marches planned for 1/21, connect with other posters who may be attending, and share your experiences if you do attend the march or even watch on TV.

This is not a specific call to action thread or organizing thread. Do not share your personal information in this thread - if you want to share phone numbers or organize a meetup between posters, make a list of names and form a PM thread to do so, please.

This is not a thread to rehash the election in. This is not a thread for discussion of Trump appointments or Trump administration or Trump + Russia issues. This is not a thread for discussion of the inauguration ceremony on 1/20. We do have threads for those issues already. Please stick to discussing the marches.



OP PART ONE: What is the Women's March and what does it stand for?

From: https://www.womensmarch.com/

MISSION AND VISION

We stand together in solidarity with our partners and children for the protection of our rights, our safety, our health, and our families - recognizing that our vibrant and diverse communities are the strength of our country.

The rhetoric of the past election cycle has insulted, demonized, and threatened many of us - immigrants of all statuses, Muslims and those of diverse religious faiths, people who identify as LGBTQIA, Native people, Black and Brown people, people with disabilities, survivors of sexual assault - and our communities are hurting and scared. We are confronted with the question of how to move forward in the face of national and international concern and fear.

In the spirit of democracy and honoring the champions of human rights, dignity, and justice who have come before us, we join in diversity to show our presence in numbers too great to ignore. The Women’s March on Washington will send a bold message to our new government on their first day in office, and to the world that women's rights are human rights. We stand together, recognizing that defending the most marginalized among us is defending all of us.

We support the advocacy and resistance movements that reflect our multiple and intersecting identities. We call on all defenders of human rights to join us. This march is the first step towards unifying our communities, grounded in new relationships, to create change from the grassroots level up. We will not rest until women have parity and equity at all levels of leadership in society. We work peacefully while recognizing there is no true peace without justice and equity for all.

HEAR OUR VOICE.

GUIDING PRINCIPLES

Women’s rights are human rights, regardless of a woman’s race, ethnicity, religion, immigration status, sexual identity, gender expression, economic status, age or disability. We practice empathy with the intent to learn about the intersecting identities of each other. We will suspend our first judgement and do our best to lead without ego. We follow the principles of Kingian nonviolence, which are defined as follows:

Principle 1: Nonviolence is a way of life for courageous people. It is a positive force confronting the forces of injustice and utilizes the righteous indignation and spiritual, emotional, and intellectual capabilities of people as the vital force for change and reconciliation.

Principle 2: The Beloved Community is the framework for the future. The nonviolent concept is an overall effort to achieve a reconciled world by raising the level of relationships among people to a height where justice prevails and persons attain their full human potential.

Principle 3: Attack forces of evil, not persons doing evil. The nonviolent approach helps one analyze the fundamental conditions, policies and practices of the conflict rather than reacting to one’s opponents or their personalities.

Principle 4: Accept suffering without retaliation for the sake of the cause to achieve our goal. Self-chosen suffering is redemptive and helps the movement grow in a spiritual as well as a humanitarian dimension. The moral authority of voluntary suffering for a goal communicates the concern to one’s own friends and community as well as to the opponent.

Principle 5: Avoid internal violence of the spirit as well as external physical violence. The nonviolent attitude permeates all aspects of the campaign. It provides a mirror type reflection of the reality of the condition to one’s opponent and the community at large. Specific activities must be designed to maintain a high level of spirit and morale during a nonviolent campaign.

UNITY PRINCIPLES


Full PDF file here.


Summary here:
We believe that Women’s Rights are Human Rights and Human Rights are Women’s Rights. We must create a society in which women - including Black women, Native women, poor women, immigrant women, Muslim women, lesbian queer and trans women - are free and able to care for and nurture their families, however they are formed, in safe and healthy environments free from structural impediments.

ENDING VIOLENCE

Women deserve to live full and healthy lives, free of all forms of violence against our bodies. We believe in accountability and justice in cases of police brutality and ending racial profiling and targeting of communities of color. It is our moral imperative to dismantle the gender and racial inequities within the criminal justice system.

REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS

We believe in Reproductive Freedom. We do not accept any federal, state or local rollbacks, cuts or restrictions on our ability to access quality reproductive healthcare services, birth control, HIV/AIDS care and prevention, or medically accurate sexuality education. This means open access to safe, legal, affordable abortion and birth control for all people, regardless of income, location or education.

LGBTQIA RIGHTS

We firmly declare that LGBTQIA Rights are Human Rights and that it is our obligation to uplift, expand and protect the rights of our gay, lesbian, bi, queer, trans or gender non-conforming brothers, sisters and siblings. We must have the power to control our bodies and be free from gender norms, expectations and stereotypes.

WORKER’S RIGHTS

We believe in an economy powered by transparency, accountability, security and equity. All women should be paid equitably, with access to affordable childcare, sick days, healthcare, paid family leave, and healthy work environments. All workers – including domestic and farm workers, undocumented and migrant workers - must have the right to organize and fight for a living minimum wage.

CIVIL RIGHTS

We believe Civil Rights are our birthright, including voting rights, freedom to worship without fear of intimidation or harassment, freedom of speech, and protections for all citizens regardless of race, gender, age or disability. We believe it is time for an all-inclusive Equal Rights Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

DISABILITY RIGHTS

We believe that all women’s issues are issues faced by women with disabilities and Deaf women. As mothers, sisters, daughters, and contributing members of this great nation, we seek to break barriers to access, inclusion, independence, and the full enjoyment of citizenship at home and around the world. We strive to be fully included in and contribute to all aspects of American life, economy, and culture.

IMMIGRANT RIGHTS

Rooted in the promise of America’s call for huddled masses yearning to breathe free, we believe in immigrant and refugee rights regardless of status or country of origin. We believe migration is a human right and that no human being is illegal.

ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE

We believe that every person and every community in our nation has the right to clean water, clean air, and access to and enjoyment of public lands. We believe that our environment and our climate must be protected, and that our land and natural resources cannot be exploited for corporate gain or greed - especially at the risk of public safety and health.


More specific answers about the march can be found here: https://www.womensmarch.com/faq/





Part 2, regarding those participating or thinking of participating, to be posted shortly...

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  • So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    edited January 2017
    OP PART TWO: Information about participating in DC and beyond

    No tickets are required. The organizers are asking for signups in order to gauge headcount and facilitate planning. You can register for the DC March here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdzAOhSz5i7Vw88k9z7s5crNKsjmtoFigkb1jSuAQJ3-57uKg/viewform?c=0&w=1

    This link will take you to a Facebook video with specific information for the DC March: https://www.facebook.com/womensmarchonwash/videos/vb.1338822066131069/1401849963161612/

    Important points from the video:
    • The route is permitted and should be protected.
    • It's gon' be cold.
    • March with a buddy and tell someone where you'll be going.
    • Signs are welcome but no signs on sticks.

    Here is the relevant section for CAN I BRING BAGS AND WOODEN SIGNS (short answer: no)
    Q: Can I bring my backpack/bag to the march?

    All backpacks and bags may be subject to search at the March, and those not conforming to the standards set here may be confiscated or asked to be left behind. Backpacks are not permitted unless they are clear and no larger than 17"x12"x6" (colored transparent bags are not permitted).

    Bags/totes/purses for small personal items should be no larger than 8”x6”x4”.

    Specifically for people who would like to bring meals, each marcher is permitted one additional 12”x12”x6” plastic or gallon bag.


    For marchers who have medical needs or for mothers who need baby bags or breast pumps, please ensure that your supplies fit into the above clear backpack. You can have one backpack per individual in your group, as long as they abide by the above guidelines.

    If you are a member of the press, covering the event officially, and have equipment that will not fit into bags of the above dimensions: please contact the National Communications Team to get press credentials in advance in order for your equipment to be allowed into the rally site.

    If you require disability accommodations or related equipment, that will not fit into the above bags, please enter via the ADA Accessible route: 4th St. SW from C St. to Independence Ave. For anyone using Metro, please get off at Federal Center SW and use 4th St. to enter the rally area.

    Canes, walking sticks, walkers, and portable seats are allowed for individuals who require them for mobility and accessibility on a regular basis.

    Do not bring anything that can be construed as a weapon, including signage with any kind of handle (e.g. a sharpened wooden stick). We recommend also checking with your bus company if your bus will be secured during the march and if you can leave larger belongings in the bus, rather than carrying them all day.
    This is the policy of the Women's March team of organizers, security, and logistics. We ask all marchers to please cooperate with these policies and guidelines in order to ensure that this event is safe and comfortable for all attendees. We understand the environmental implications of using plastic bags and backpacks, but in this case, we believe the safety and security of the hundreds of thousands of marchers supersedes other concerns.

    Q: Can we bring flags and banners?
    A: Flags are allowed, but not on a pole. Posters and signs are allowed, but not with the use of wooden sign posts. Instead, we encourage people to use cardboard sign posts.

    Q: Can we bring folding chairs so we can take rests, and canes to walk with?
    A: If you need the assistance of a cane please bring it. Folding chairs are not permitted. If there are specific medical needs that you cannot have met with regular accommodation, we will have a limited seated section for people who need seating. We will give more information on this in the next week.

    Q: Can I bring my bicycle to the march?
    A: Bikes are not allowed in the rally area or the march route, however, if people are interested in riding a bike to the rally, we are currently identifying a place for bike parking*. We will update people over the next week with more details regarding this.

    Q: What should I wear?
    A: We advise you check the weather regularly the week leading up to the march. The end of January in Washington D.C. can be frigid. Please plan accordingly and dress for EXTREME COLD. Even if the temperatures are higher than normal, standing outside for hours at a time will impact you.

    Q: Is there a single color we can wear to unite us?
    A: We are not planning to wear anything in particular except VERY WARM CLOTHING. Please do the same and have fun planning ways to connect visually with your friends, groups and family members.



    And save this number on your phone:
    Q: What if I get arrested? Is there a phone number I can call?
    A: Our legal hotline number is (202) 670-6866.

    Please note that we are working with local and federal law enforcement and do not intend to engage in any civil disobedience. We expect all marchers to abide by all laws and any instruction of law enforcement. Finally, we are planning a peaceful demonstration and are training marshals in de-escalation tactics and ask that all marchers remain peaceful.



    If you are in the area on 1/20 you can attend a nonviolence training, details are here: https://swamprevolt.wordpress.com/2017/01/06/jan-20-trainings/

    If you are not in the DC area and want to participate, good news - there will be sister marches around the country and even around the world. Here is a list of sister marches: https://www.womensmarch.com/sisters

    The DC march and many of the larger marches will end with a rally with several speakers.



    D+Ders Participate!

    Are you attending a march? Would you like to be listed in the OP just as a way to show who around here is going? Feel free to let me know and I will add you here.


    DC

    Hakkekage
    Quid
    Mazzyx
    adytum
    Surfpossum
    Calica
    Darkewolfe
    jdarksun
    Casual Eddy's fiance
    Daedalus

    PDX
    So It Goes

    Madison, WI
    Veevee

    Denver
    Deadfall
    Mazzyx's mom

    Los Angeles
    Nija

    London
    Spaffy

    San Diego ?
    kedinik

    Toronto ?
    Forar

    Dublin, Ireland
    Desktop Hippie

    Atlanta
    QuantumTurk
    Elki

    Rochester NY
    OptimusZed

    Lansing, MI
    mRahmani


    Frederick, MD
    SyphonBlue

    Seattle
    Aistan

    Austin TX/b]
    Astaereth

    Pensacola FL
    A Dabble of Thelonius





    I am excited to participate in a peaceful demonstration of solidarity and to continue to show our country how many people support basic, decent, human rights in the face of the election of a government that may seek to infringe those rights, be it in small or large ways.

    Discuss!

    So It Goes on
  • HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    Yay!

    I am i guess de facto running a PM thread for the flagship DC march. Beast and I are coming through on Saturday (by my insistence) and we are very, very slowly converging on some details such as initial meeting point and post-march meeting/ravenous beasts eating.

    please read through the FAQ for summary of WHAT IS NOT ALLOWED and WHAT IS ALLOWED:

    https://www.womensmarch.com/faq/#legal

    Here is the relevant section for CAN I BRING BAGS AND WOODEN SIGNS (short answer: no)
    Q: Can I bring my backpack/bag to the march?

    All backpacks and bags may be subject to search at the March, and those not conforming to the standards set here may be confiscated or asked to be left behind. Backpacks are not permitted unless they are clear and no larger than 17"x12"x6" (colored transparent bags are not permitted).

    Bags/totes/purses for small personal items should be no larger than 8”x6”x4”.

    Specifically for people who would like to bring meals, each marcher is permitted one additional 12”x12”x6” plastic or gallon bag.


    For marchers who have medical needs or for mothers who need baby bags or breast pumps, please ensure that your supplies fit into the above clear backpack. You can have one backpack per individual in your group, as long as they abide by the above guidelines.

    If you are a member of the press, covering the event officially, and have equipment that will not fit into bags of the above dimensions: please contact the National Communications Team to get press credentials in advance in order for your equipment to be allowed into the rally site.

    If you require disability accommodations or related equipment, that will not fit into the above bags, please enter via the ADA Accessible route: 4th St. SW from C St. to Independence Ave. For anyone using Metro, please get off at Federal Center SW and use 4th St. to enter the rally area.

    Canes, walking sticks, walkers, and portable seats are allowed for individuals who require them for mobility and accessibility on a regular basis.

    Do not bring anything that can be construed as a weapon, including signage with any kind of handle (e.g. a sharpened wooden stick). We recommend also checking with your bus company if your bus will be secured during the march and if you can leave larger belongings in the bus, rather than carrying them all day.
    This is the policy of the Women's March team of organizers, security, and logistics. We ask all marchers to please cooperate with these policies and guidelines in order to ensure that this event is safe and comfortable for all attendees. We understand the environmental implications of using plastic bags and backpacks, but in this case, we believe the safety and security of the hundreds of thousands of marchers supersedes other concerns.

    Q: Can we bring flags and banners?
    A: Flags are allowed, but not on a pole. Posters and signs are allowed, but not with the use of wooden sign posts. Instead, we encourage people to use cardboard sign posts.

    Q: Can we bring folding chairs so we can take rests, and canes to walk with?
    A: If you need the assistance of a cane please bring it. Folding chairs are not permitted. If there are specific medical needs that you cannot have met with regular accommodation, we will have a limited seated section for people who need seating. We will give more information on this in the next week.

    Q: Can I bring my bicycle to the march?
    A: Bikes are not allowed in the rally area or the march route, however, if people are interested in riding a bike to the rally, we are currently identifying a place for bike parking*. We will update people over the next week with more details regarding this.

    Q: What should I wear?
    A: We advise you check the weather regularly the week leading up to the march. The end of January in Washington D.C. can be frigid. Please plan accordingly and dress for EXTREME COLD. Even if the temperatures are higher than normal, standing outside for hours at a time will impact you.

    Q: Is there a single color we can wear to unite us?
    A: We are not planning to wear anything in particular except VERY WARM CLOTHING. Please do the same and have fun planning ways to connect visually with your friends, groups and family members.

    RE: Cold Weather: The forecast for DC on Saturday is showing an extremely pleasant 58 degrees F. Let us pray that holds.

    And save this number on your phone:
    Q: What if I get arrested? Is there a phone number I can call?
    A: Our legal hotline number is (202) 670-6866.

    Please note that we are working with local and federal law enforcement and do not intend to engage in any civil disobedience. We expect all marchers to abide by all laws and any instruction of law enforcement. Finally, we are planning a peaceful demonstration and are training marshals in de-escalation tactics and ask that all marchers remain peaceful.

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    NNID: Hakkekage
  • adytumadytum The Inevitable Rise And FallRegistered User regular
    I don't post on PA anymore because [reasons], but I want to throw it out there for anyone interested that I'm organizing a group of family and friends to march on the 21st, leaving from my house (in a neighborhood that typically has plenty of street parking) about a 45 minute walk from the U.S. Capitol building. If you don't have plans and/or are unfamiliar with D.C., that is!

    I'm also happy to help with questions or logistics to anyone showing up for the March. Typically, D.C. roads and public transportation are a nightmare for large gatherings. I'm hoping everyone that wants to can make it, but thousands of people are converging on D.C. by car, which may overload both metro and street parking.

  • adytumadytum The Inevitable Rise And FallRegistered User regular
    As an example, The Rally to Restore Sanity (attendance: ~215,000 people) completely overloaded the metro system in areas. Highways around the Orange line were backed up for miles, parking was full everywhere, and trains were 100% full heading into the city. Plan your trip early!

  • HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    Thanks for the heads up, adytum.

    To all DC comers by Metro: Arrive at Metro Center before 9 AM if possible. PLEASE! its gonna be a shitshow. Wake up early, coffee early, hustle early.

    @So It Goes You can list me in OP

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  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited January 2017
    I'd recommend anyone taking the DC metro from one of the end points to catch the first train leaving at 7 AM. They already fill up fast on weekends and this will obviously exacerbate it.

    Edit: Parking near the metros in particular will likely be gone fairly quick as well.

    Quid on
  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited January 2017
    Oh and @So It Goes add me as well. I'm coming down from Maryland and can help anyone that's never taken the orange line or metro before.

    Quid on
  • SurfpossumSurfpossum A nonentity trying to preserve the anonymity he so richly deserves.Registered User regular
    We'll be flying to Philadelphia and driving (or something) over Saturday morning; I really ought to look up routes and stuff.

  • CalicaCalica Registered User regular
    I'm also going to the march in DC.

  • The EnderThe Ender Registered User regular
    edited January 2017
    If I could make a suggestion - with the assumption these rallies will be a thing going forward (I hope):


    If things go sour, for whatever reason (counter-protestors, police being asshats, etc), non-violence is actually an incredibly difficult thing to commit to. Civil rights leaders & activists used to hold lengthy training seminars / roleplaying sessions to get people prepared for non-violent demonstrations.

    It might seem silly, but many activists from that relatively successful period of demonstrations do still credit the training & roleplaying as part of why things went so well.


    I would ask around to see if college or university campuses in your area offer this kind of training; if they don't, see if you can find archival footage kicking around and/or try to reach out to a local congresscritter to see if they can help you out (even if they are GOP... because this sort of thing actually used to be non-partisan. Stranger times and all that). and perhaps try training with each other.


    EDIT: There was a clip that I removed because it uses a certain racial slur; I hadn't thought about that.


    The Ender on
    With Love and Courage
  • VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    My wife and I will be at the Madison Wisconsin march, where we get to be out in sunny, 50 degree weather in the middle of January.

    That weather may sound like a fun and good thing, but no, that weather is most definitely not what I would call a good thing.

  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    So uh, is this name coincidental or is the plan to leave Trump screaming in terror inside a room somewhere besieged by an angry mob before he's forcibly marched over to the White House where he now has to stay at all times?

  • daveNYCdaveNYC Why universe hate Waspinator? Registered User regular
    Shamelessly stolen from here.
    1. Go with a buddy, that way you have at least one person looking out for you/watching your back and vice versa.
    2. Carry cash and make sure to carry a valid picture ID!
    3. Bring a pocket flashlight.
    4. Get and wear a go pro that is automatically updating to the cloud.
    5. Bring a pocket charger for your cell phone and go pro regardless of whether it is supposed to be a long day.
    6. Make sure your personal electronic devices all have sufficient password protection and encryption on them. And have them set to upload to the cloud at a regular interval.
    7. Turn off fingerprint access to unlock your phone and delete your finger prints from the memory. Some jurisdictions allow law enforcement to compel you to unlock your phone if it has finger print based access. Or get a disposable phone just for this occasion.
    8. Turn off your phone and other personal electronic devices option to connect to known wifi as it can be used as a way to fail your encryption.
    9. Bring a bandana or neck gaiter and water so you can make a make shift gas mask in case things get out of hand and tear gas or pepper spray is deployed.
    10. Bring a bottle of saline eye rinse in case you need to rinse your eyes out if tear gas or pepper spray is deployed.
    11. Bring plenty of water and some snacks to make sure you’re properly hydrated and you’ve got enough fuel in your system to get through the day.
    12. Dress in layers so you are prepared for the weather and make sure you have good shoes/boots and a change of socks in case they should get wet. A set of silk base layer undersocks is a good idea regardless of the weather. They’ll help keep your feet warm or cool as needed and they’ll provide some protection in case your shoes/boots and socks get wet. And something to keep the back of your neck and your ears warm if you’re going to be someplace cold.
    13. Bring/wear a hat to keep the sun off your head or to keep it warm depending on the weather.
    14. Bring/wear eye protection. Specifically sunglasses that are impact rated. (You should be able to pick up military surplus ones pretty cheap).
    15. Sunscreen, skin moisturizer, and lip balm. Even if its cold you’ll need these.
    16. If you need to take regular/routine prescription medication: bring it in its original container, with the prescription details on the label. If its a gel based application and comes in a packet, make sure you’ve got a hard copy of the prescription with you.
    17. Be aware of your surroundings at all times. You don’t have to be paranoid, but have a sufficient level of situational awareness. If something looks and/or feels hinky or the hair on the back of your neck stands up, head on home or go get a drink or go back to your hotel. Know who and what is around you, keep your valuables in front pockets or in secure/securable purses/bags, and keep those where they can’t be easily snatched or accessed.
    18. Have a contact plan for both linking up and communicating in case one gets separated from anyone you’re with.
    19. Have a contact plan to stay in touch with someone who isn’t at the march, but knows that you’re there and a regular set of contact times.
    20. Have a lawyer you can contact if necessary and that your outside contact could contact if you don’t check in. Make sure you have all of your contact’s phone numbers memorized in case your phone is damaged or taken by law enforcement should the worst happen and you’re arrested.
    21. Bring a sharpie to take down badge numbers if necessary. And if necessary write them on your hand.
    Should the worst happen and you get caught up in a peaceable assembly that suddenly turns not so peaceable:
    1. Do not resist law enforcement. Just do what they say, let your arms go limp, and do what you can to avoid a reflex response to resist – that can get you charged with assault on a law enforcement officer.
    2. Be respectful and polite when dealing with the authorities – law enforcement, the National Park Service, whoever.
    3. If you are arrested, ask for a lawyer and then shut up. Do not say anything else or answer any other questions until your lawyer arrives. In fact let the lawyer do the talking.

    Have fun storming the castle!

    Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
  • HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    A lot of those recommendations seem excessive. Not that it's not good advice, but that's a pretty high barrier of entry if people think those are necessary requirements. I am not expecting a crackdown/violence. Of course if I am wrong we can point to this post later and laugh and laugh

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  • daveNYCdaveNYC Why universe hate Waspinator? Registered User regular
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    A lot of those recommendations seem excessive. Not that it's not good advice, but that's a pretty high barrier of entry if people think those are necessary requirements. I am not expecting a crackdown/violence. Of course if I am wrong we can point to this post later and laugh and laugh

    Between Trump suporters, the anarchist wankers who love to crash protests, and who knows what else, it's not a bad idea to try and cover at least some of the suggestions. And if shit goes to shit, there ain't no such thing as overprepared. Yeah, normally I'd think some of them are a bit over the top, but 'normally', President-Elect Trump, darkest timeline, all that jazz.

    I mean these guys are probably still going to be in town on the 21st. The guy is even wearing a brown shirt.

    Is it too early to start drinking? No!

    Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
  • HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    daveNYC wrote: »
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    A lot of those recommendations seem excessive. Not that it's not good advice, but that's a pretty high barrier of entry if people think those are necessary requirements. I am not expecting a crackdown/violence. Of course if I am wrong we can point to this post later and laugh and laugh

    Between Trump suporters, the anarchist wankers who love to crash protests, and who knows what else, it's not a bad idea to try and cover at least some of the suggestions. And if shit goes to shit, there ain't no such thing as overprepared. Yeah, normally I'd think some of them are a bit over the top, but 'normally', President-Elect Trump, darkest timeline, all that jazz.

    I mean these guys are probably still going to be in town on the 21st. The guy is even wearing a brown shirt.

    Is it too early to start drinking? No!

    I would like to err on the side of people showing up than people deciding that there's just one hassle too many to bother coming out. I mean, if you're coming out already, you're probably not going to be deterred by a few common sense recommendations, but get a go pro? Disable Touch ID? Memorize all your phone numbers? It's not 1984 (as much as Trump would like to to be!)

    This aside: Here is some additional information necessary for people attending the march

    Download the Women's March on Washington App: it's available for iOS and Android right now. If you've ever used the PAX App it's kind of like that. It's just a way to quickly check up on info that you would otherwise need to navigate to the site for, which will be useful on the day of.

    For those unable to attend the March, but who want to support it: Please, PLEASE consider donating. They have a goal of $2 million, which IMO is fairly modest. If a bunch of nerds at AGDQ 2017 can raise $2.5 million for charity because of cool speedrunning tricks, they can raise $2 million to ensure that there are adequate portable potties for those of us who will be nervously dancing in place trying to weigh our need to pee vs braving the nightmareish shit-smeared box.

    You can donate here: https://www.crowdrise.com/womens-march-on-washington/fundraiser/womens-marchon-washington

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  • daveNYCdaveNYC Why universe hate Waspinator? Registered User regular
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    daveNYC wrote: »
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    A lot of those recommendations seem excessive. Not that it's not good advice, but that's a pretty high barrier of entry if people think those are necessary requirements. I am not expecting a crackdown/violence. Of course if I am wrong we can point to this post later and laugh and laugh

    Between Trump suporters, the anarchist wankers who love to crash protests, and who knows what else, it's not a bad idea to try and cover at least some of the suggestions. And if shit goes to shit, there ain't no such thing as overprepared. Yeah, normally I'd think some of them are a bit over the top, but 'normally', President-Elect Trump, darkest timeline, all that jazz.

    I mean these guys are probably still going to be in town on the 21st. The guy is even wearing a brown shirt.

    Is it too early to start drinking? No!

    I would like to err on the side of people showing up than people deciding that there's just one hassle too many to bother coming out. I mean, if you're coming out already, you're probably not going to be deterred by a few common sense recommendations, but get a go pro? Disable Touch ID? Memorize all your phone numbers? It's not 1984 (as much as Trump would like to to be!)

    This aside: Here is some additional information necessary for people attending the march

    Download the Women's March on Washington App: it's available for iOS and Android right now. If you've ever used the PAX App it's kind of like that. It's just a way to quickly check up on info that you would otherwise need to navigate to the site for, which will be useful on the day of.

    For those unable to attend the March, but who want to support it: Please, PLEASE consider donating. They have a goal of $2 million, which IMO is fairly modest. If a bunch of nerds at AGDQ 2017 can raise $2.5 million for charity because of cool speedrunning tricks, they can raise $2 million to ensure that there are adequate portable potties for those of us who will be nervously dancing in place trying to weigh our need to pee vs braving the nightmareish shit-smeared box.

    You can donate here: https://www.crowdrise.com/womens-march-on-washington/fundraiser/womens-marchon-washington

    The GoPro is a tad over the top. The memorizing phone numbers thing is amusing to me as I know exactly two phone numbers; mine and my parent's home number. Everyone else's number is in speed dial and those synapses have been given over to Simpson's trivia or sacrificed to the beer gods.

    One thing I would definitely suggest is to use Google Maps to download an offline map of wherever your march is. It's quick and easy and will help out when everyone in the march whips out their phones and the local towers go 'noooope'.

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  • SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
    I was really hoping to make it down to DC for the march, but my extremely pregnant wife is having some real unpleasant pain issues and it's becoming hard for her to walk, so unfortunately I will only be able to be there in spirit, but we are planning on making other protests later (should they still be legal) once the baby is born.

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    The wife and I will be marching in Denver.

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  • The EnderThe Ender Registered User regular
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    A lot of those recommendations seem excessive. Not that it's not good advice, but that's a pretty high barrier of entry if people think those are necessary requirements. I am not expecting a crackdown/violence. Of course if I am wrong we can point to this post later and laugh and laugh

    Oh sorry; I didn't mean for the upcoming Women's March in isolation. Just training you may want to have in your back pocket if these rallies are going to be an ongoing thing, and/or if it's easy for D&D people to get together to do that kind of roleplaying.

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  • So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    The Ender wrote: »
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    A lot of those recommendations seem excessive. Not that it's not good advice, but that's a pretty high barrier of entry if people think those are necessary requirements. I am not expecting a crackdown/violence. Of course if I am wrong we can point to this post later and laugh and laugh

    Oh sorry; I didn't mean for the upcoming Women's March in isolation. Just training you may want to have in your back pocket if these rallies are going to be an ongoing thing, and/or if it's easy for D&D people to get together to do that kind of roleplaying.

    While certainly good training to have, I don't think it will be necessary at all for the marches this Saturday. They all are, to my knowledge, permitted and planned as peaceful marches not intended to disrupt traffic outside of the planned routes. They will end with pre-arranged speakers on a stage. Someone mentioned the Rally to Restore Sanity on the mall in the thread, and I think this will be quite similar.

    There are always dangers of being in a huge crowd, but prepping for tear gas and writing numbers on your arm in sharpie is not going to be necessary for this event.

  • NijaNija Registered User regular
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    I'll be marching in Los Angeles.

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    I didn't seen if it was mentioned but it's not the worst idea to grab a burner phone for the day.

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  • ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    I think it's awesome that so many people are doing this. Not loafing around at home on the weekend, like some people.

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    My mother in law keeps posting hardcore protest guides on Facebook. Like, use Maalox to counter tear gas, write phone numbers on your arm in case they confiscate everything stuff. How to properly curl around your bits so as to avoid serious damage from nightsticks. Black Flag anarchist protest advice.

    If they teargas the Women's March on Washington, the country will burn the fuck down.

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  • HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    Elki wrote: »
    I think it's awesome that so many people are doing this. Not loafing around at home on the weekend, like some people.

    Elki are...are you some people

    Because Im sure there's one in Atlanta

    https://www.womensmarch.com/sisters

    Oh no a link spilled out
    Women's March - Atlanta, GA

    Start: January 21, 2017 • 1:00 PM
    Center for Civil and Human Rights• 100 Ivan Allen Jr Blvd NW, Atlanta, GA 30313
    Host Contact Info: atlantamarch2017@gmail.com

    Oh no details

    Oh gosh how embarrassing

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  • CalicaCalica Registered User regular
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    My mother in law keeps posting hardcore protest guides on Facebook. Like, use Maalox to counter tear gas, write phone numbers on your arm in case they confiscate everything stuff. How to properly curl around your bits so as to avoid serious damage from nightsticks. Black Flag anarchist protest advice.

    If they teargas the Women's March on Washington, the country will burn the fuck down.

    Nah. The news media will report on how the protesters were angry and the police feared for their safety, and that will be that.

  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    daveNYC wrote: »
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    A lot of those recommendations seem excessive. Not that it's not good advice, but that's a pretty high barrier of entry if people think those are necessary requirements. I am not expecting a crackdown/violence. Of course if I am wrong we can point to this post later and laugh and laugh

    Between Trump suporters, the anarchist wankers who love to crash protests, and who knows what else, it's not a bad idea to try and cover at least some of the suggestions. And if shit goes to shit, there ain't no such thing as overprepared. Yeah, normally I'd think some of them are a bit over the top, but 'normally', President-Elect Trump, darkest timeline, all that jazz.

    I mean these guys are probably still going to be in town on the 21st. The guy is even wearing a brown shirt.

    Is it too early to start drinking? No!

    I would like to err on the side of people showing up than people deciding that there's just one hassle too many to bother coming out. I mean, if you're coming out already, you're probably not going to be deterred by a few common sense recommendations, but get a go pro? Disable Touch ID? Memorize all your phone numbers? It's not 1984 (as much as Trump would like to to be!)

    This aside: Here is some additional information necessary for people attending the march

    Download the Women's March on Washington App: it's available for iOS and Android right now. If you've ever used the PAX App it's kind of like that. It's just a way to quickly check up on info that you would otherwise need to navigate to the site for, which will be useful on the day of.

    For those unable to attend the March, but who want to support it: Please, PLEASE consider donating. They have a goal of $2 million, which IMO is fairly modest. If a bunch of nerds at AGDQ 2017 can raise $2.5 million for charity because of cool speedrunning tricks, they can raise $2 million to ensure that there are adequate portable potties for those of us who will be nervously dancing in place trying to weigh our need to pee vs braving the nightmareish shit-smeared box.

    You can donate here: https://www.crowdrise.com/womens-march-on-washington/fundraiser/womens-marchon-washington

    I'm guessing the "disable TouchID" bit is because of stuff like this.
    A Minnesota appellate court ruled Tuesday against a convicted burglar who was forced by a lower state court to depress his fingerprint on his seized phone, which unlocked it.

    ...

    As Ars has reported before, under the Fifth Amendment, defendants cannot generally be compelled to provide self-incriminating testimony (“what you know”). But giving a fingerprint (“what you are”) for the purposes of identification or matching to an unknown fingerprint found at a crime scene has been allowed. It wasn’t until relatively recently, after all, that fingerprints could be used to unlock a smartphone. The crux of the legal theory here is that a compelled fingerprint isn’t testimonial, it’s simply a compelled production—like being forced to hand over a key to a safe.

  • tbloxhamtbloxham Registered User regular
    Calica wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    My mother in law keeps posting hardcore protest guides on Facebook. Like, use Maalox to counter tear gas, write phone numbers on your arm in case they confiscate everything stuff. How to properly curl around your bits so as to avoid serious damage from nightsticks. Black Flag anarchist protest advice.

    If they teargas the Women's March on Washington, the country will burn the fuck down.

    Nah. The news media will report on how the protesters were angry and the police feared for their safety, and that will be that.

    Depends on how white and how over 35 the march is. If more than 50% of the marchers are white women over 35, and the police tear gas the march, then that will be the end of civil discourse in the country.

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  • SpaffySpaffy Fuck the Zero Registered User regular
    I'm going to the one in London, with my girlfriend and three other awesome women. It'll be my first protest and I'm proud to be there.

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  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    DC is being protested pretty much all the time. During the Bush years it was literally every day. All the law enforcement is well trained in protests, deescelation, and first amendment rights. We need everyone to show up to make it clear there are a lot of people opposed to this administration, so please come out. It's going to be safe and secure and seriously, we have multiple protest marches every year, this is DC.

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  • kedinikkedinik Registered User regular
    I'm dragging a friend to the local march and Hakkes I'm stealing an old sign idea you mentioned in chat: "Words Matter"

  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    daveNYC wrote: »
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    A lot of those recommendations seem excessive. Not that it's not good advice, but that's a pretty high barrier of entry if people think those are necessary requirements. I am not expecting a crackdown/violence. Of course if I am wrong we can point to this post later and laugh and laugh

    Between Trump suporters, the anarchist wankers who love to crash protests, and who knows what else, it's not a bad idea to try and cover at least some of the suggestions. And if shit goes to shit, there ain't no such thing as overprepared. Yeah, normally I'd think some of them are a bit over the top, but 'normally', President-Elect Trump, darkest timeline, all that jazz.

    I mean these guys are probably still going to be in town on the 21st. The guy is even wearing a brown shirt.

    Is it too early to start drinking? No!

    I would like to err on the side of people showing up than people deciding that there's just one hassle too many to bother coming out. I mean, if you're coming out already, you're probably not going to be deterred by a few common sense recommendations, but get a go pro? Disable Touch ID? Memorize all your phone numbers? It's not 1984 (as much as Trump would like to to be!)

    This aside: Here is some additional information necessary for people attending the march

    Download the Women's March on Washington App: it's available for iOS and Android right now. If you've ever used the PAX App it's kind of like that. It's just a way to quickly check up on info that you would otherwise need to navigate to the site for, which will be useful on the day of.

    For those unable to attend the March, but who want to support it: Please, PLEASE consider donating. They have a goal of $2 million, which IMO is fairly modest. If a bunch of nerds at AGDQ 2017 can raise $2.5 million for charity because of cool speedrunning tricks, they can raise $2 million to ensure that there are adequate portable potties for those of us who will be nervously dancing in place trying to weigh our need to pee vs braving the nightmareish shit-smeared box.

    You can donate here: https://www.crowdrise.com/womens-march-on-washington/fundraiser/womens-marchon-washington

    I'm guessing the "disable TouchID" bit is because of stuff like this.
    A Minnesota appellate court ruled Tuesday against a convicted burglar who was forced by a lower state court to depress his fingerprint on his seized phone, which unlocked it.

    ...

    As Ars has reported before, under the Fifth Amendment, defendants cannot generally be compelled to provide self-incriminating testimony (“what you know”). But giving a fingerprint (“what you are”) for the purposes of identification or matching to an unknown fingerprint found at a crime scene has been allowed. It wasn’t until relatively recently, after all, that fingerprints could be used to unlock a smartphone. The crux of the legal theory here is that a compelled fingerprint isn’t testimonial, it’s simply a compelled production—like being forced to hand over a key to a safe.

    The theory is wrong, in that a key is "what you have". That said, there's no real case law on it because it's a new issue, so it really needs a trip or two to SCOTUS to hash out the lines on it.

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  • ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    Oh no details

    Oh gosh how embarrassing

    Huh, I wonder if there's one in To.... why yes, yes there is one in Toronto.

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  • Desktop HippieDesktop Hippie Registered User regular
    edited January 2017
    Turns out there's one of these happening in Dublin on Saturday! I plan to go. I'll post photos when I get back.

    *edit* That's Dublin in Ireland, for clarity. There's also a March happening at the same time in Galway.

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  • QuantumTurkQuantumTurk Registered User regular
    I'll also be going to the atlanta one, rain or shine this sat! Lemme know if you need people, there looks to be something approaching a gaggle of us.

  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    We're planning on being at the one here in Rochester. DC wasn't an option, unfortunately.

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  • ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    Elki wrote: »
    I think it's awesome that so many people are doing this. Not loafing around at home on the weekend, like some people.

    Elki are...are you some people

    Because Im sure there's one in Atlanta

    https://www.womensmarch.com/sisters

    Oh no a link spilled out
    Women's March - Atlanta, GA

    Start: January 21, 2017 • 1:00 PM
    Center for Civil and Human Rights• 100 Ivan Allen Jr Blvd NW, Atlanta, GA 30313
    Host Contact Info: atlantamarch2017@gmail.com

    Oh no details

    Oh gosh how embarrassing

    Oh yeah, that's what I get for half paying attention. I'm not in Atlanta right now, but I didn't know there were so many sister marches. Looks like there'll be one nearby for me to go to.

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  • MimMim dead.Registered User regular
    I wish all of you luck when you go! I was thinking about doing DC or NYC but 1. I am working OT (chasing that sweet, sweet paper) and 2. My parents are worried and considering they're all the way in Japan, I'm not trying to cause any heart attacks across an ocean.

    If it stays peaceful, then I'll probably hit up the next protest.

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  • dispatch.odispatch.o Registered User regular
    Well people at my work are already grumbling about how this won't change anything and Portland has decided to shut down Trimet downtown due to the disturbances possible during the protests.

    I work with a good number of well paid middle age white women. It's a little disappointing.

    Best of luck to the people who get out to the streets. Stay safe and sane.

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