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[Trump Administration] Actually About Ethics in Email Administration
ElJeffe
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You know the drill. Here are the rules and guidelines:
- Be excellent to each other
- No discussion of the election. Hillary and Bernie ate almost certainly not relevant to this thread.
- Being concerned is fine. Being alarmist is not. Comments such as "We're all going to die" are not productive.
- Please stop discussing who would win in a nuclear war.
- Just a suggestion, but maybe consider not posting news stories from every random alt-news site you see. A lot of them are full of shit.
- In-depth discussion of the Muslim ban might be better suited for the Muslim ban thread.
- There will be NO ENDORSEMENT OF VIOLENCE OR ILLEGAL ACTIVITY in here. This is not negotiable and will be met with immediate banning.
Have fun!
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I suspect this was a case of four factors coming together to tick off Trump perfectly.
1) Turnbull's a coward, and terribly likely to meekly accept Trump's bullying in the hopes that it's bluster. The perfect prey for an egomaniac.
2) The refugee deal was developed under Obama, with Trump loathing anything or anyone to do with the previous government. He wants a clean slate, to Do Things His Way.
3) The US has Australia over a barrel; Turnbull's extremely weak politically, and we have no backup plan for the refugees - successive government have tried and failed to get them off our hands.
4) Trump doesn't give a shit about Australia. To him, we might as well not exist.
Trump held all the cards, and knew he'd have no pushback, so he flagantly bullied Turnbull while going on an ego trip. It's schoolyard antics.
Thank God that Australia's so unimportant he won't kick off a war with us.
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5) He had no idea about the deal until it was mentioned.
It’s not a very important country most of the time
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We already know the answer to that:
Gaybraham Lincoln.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
He'd gain points on the left (but his party couldn't give two shits about that), and probably the moderate right. But he'd perhaps lose the rabid anti-Islamic loony right, who for some reason they've been courting, and who seem to be pro-trump.
Numbers wise, what he'll do probably depends on whether they think theyve got the center locked down.
They can't keep going 120mph for four years, can they?
lmao, that's a good one
My heart can't, that's for damn sure.
Trump to refocus anti-terrorism program to be solely about Islam.
This means they'll stop investigating terrorism from white supremacists.
Totally a coincidence, I'm sure.
Depends. How long can we go straight down until we crater into bedrock?
No, but he keeps US working weekends.
Well thanks for that image.
Every time we think we've hit bottom, Trump upgrades the shovel.
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Hey, it's not like there was an episode of armed nutbars taking over a wildlife refuge by force and calling for an insurrection.
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I kind of wonder how this administration would handle that kind of domestic crisis.
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Armed white nutbars.
Privatize the wildlife refuge and sell it to Exxon with a kickback to the Secretary of State?
I guarantee you Trump's election and especially any comments about war with Iran have already massively boosted the hardliners and conservatives in Iran.
I don't know enough about Iranian politics to predict how much that will matter. The hardliners lost a lot of credibilty from their response to the Green Movement in the eyes of the general populace, I think.
Trump would nominate Ammon Bundy to the Department of the Interior.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
They've been on this track since 9/11, and probably since well before a brief interlude following Oklahoma City. Remember the 2009 DHS report on white terrorists and how it upset many white people?
For me, the biggest fear is federal law enforcement compromised by white supremacists followed by the feds ignoring similar takeovers at the local, state, and county level. Especially sheriff's offices.
The FBI Has Quietly Investigated White Supremacist Infiltration of Law Enforcement
Which brings to mind the saying about judging a person by how he treats those who are of no use to him.
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I read these threads and just stare off into the distance
and I care
and one of my coworkers cares
but nobody else that I know in real life that isn't an internet bro just goes on talking about the weather or the superbowl or whatever tra la la
it's nauseating.
The problem is when they start doing purity purges on them...
I think such an event wouldn't be "oh trump didnt do anything ludacrisly horrible today" it would be "oh god the administration hasnt said anything in 4 days and media is kicked out the ship is going down"
It's the opposite here. People are riled up.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
There's no way the guy with the proud catchphrase "you're fired" isn't a complete and utter asshole. Totally irredeemable never-changed lint screen of a human being.
It's a mix. I have people from various circles that I talk to about this stuff. But everyone else just buries their heads in the sand and go about posting inane crap on FB/twitter.
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There is nothing below the surface with that man (which you'd intuitively think would be a political liability, and yet...).
If you're a woman who has to interact with the White House on a semi-regular basis, expect to be sexually harassed / groped. If you're a minority in the same position, expect to be treated as a second class citizen even if you've got in as 'one of the good ones'.
The man's past, present and future was on full display during the election, and nothing has changed since.
People will quibble with this, even at this late date. I've seen "When you're a star, they let you do it" used as a defense that it's consensual behavior.
They ignore the rest of the tape where he says he can't help himself. And he knows the people he can't help himself with are in a position where 'making a fuss' over him getting touchy feely would be disadvantageous. It's on fucking camera. After he talks about it. Piece. Of. Shit.
Actually, it's not a bad idea. White supremacists and conspiracy loons won't be staging acts of terrorism while their people are in the white house.
Well, I keep up with this thread, or I try to... but I also keep going through the motions (or try to). Cling to whatever routine and illusions of normalcy I can.
Because the alternative is the whole "giving in to utter despair" thing the OP talks about. Or maybe that was the last one.
I can have hope that we'll still have a country with a functioning economy and mostly-free elections in two or four years, or assume we're all going to be under martial law or dead by then and switch from working on my resume to my suicide note. Which is more productive?
it's exhausting. Hostility towards Iran will do nothing but empower hardliners. It's so upsetting and pointless. There's more reason to invade fucking turkey than Iran. It's madness, and without precedent. People are saying it would be like Vietnam, while that's a good guess, we simply don't know. I don't think the average right wing American knows the difference between Iran and Iraq, Iran isn't some tin pot dictatorship, you are looking at long term American deaths in the 100,000+ range if you include an occupation, and at least a million Iranians dead.
It would also utterly destabilise the region, I hope you liked ISIS because there'll be ten groups like them and they'll be larger than ever.
There's just no way that an invasion of Iran doesn't end America as a global power.