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[LET'S PLAY TOGETHER] The Witcher 3! The playthrough has begun!

WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPEDRegistered User regular
edited June 2018 in Social Entropy++
Hey y'all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQE9lHBDDGg

Let's have a nice playthrough of Witcher 3 together. Won't that be fun? I think it'll be fun.

Is there a schedule?

Nah, not for this one. Witcher 3's too god damn big for a schedule. Take it at your own pace, talk about any part you like. Mind your spoilers!

But I've never played a Witcher game before!

That's OK. Witcher 3 is really good as a standalone title. You don't need the old games at all! You don't need the books either (though I like them and they help to illustrate certain character relationships)

How do I mark spoilers?

I like to use the name of a related quest! Those are usually pretty good, and most spoilers will involve quests, so it's a good system.

There's some subject matter I sure don't like. Do I need to know anything going into this?

I tell you what, Witcher 3's got some real shit in it. It's full of murder and betrayal and bad empires and all sorts of stuff. There are, however, two particular quests that I think merit a big old
--CONTENT WARNING--

Get Junior (CW: gendered violence, desecration of corpses)
Get Junior includes a scene where the titular character is surrounded by dead sex workers that he has murdered and more or less decorated with.

Carnal Sins (CW: gender violence, serial killers)
Priscilla is attacked by a serial killer, and though she survives her throat is burned by acid and she's rendered unable to talk. In tracking down the killer, who has struck and killed multiple men and women throughout the city, Geralt ends up confronting a corrupt priest, who he walks in on apparently about to torture a sex worker with a hot iron.

Those are the biggest ones and the ones that bother people most consistently, I think.

Can we have shipping arguments in here?

Friend, we wouldn't have it any other way.

Who all's playing?

1. Wyborn
2. SilverWind
3. KetBra
4. Javen
5. Mr. G
6. Didgeridoo
7. Shen
8. Zenyatoo
9. Maddoc
10. Devlin_Dragonus
11. timspork's ghost
12. No Great Name
13. Fearghaill
14. hatedinamerica
15. rhylith
16. YaYa
17. Knight_

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  • WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    @Mr. G You're one of the folks who plays Gwent, right

    Did you see this Nilfgaard shit because I did not

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  • MaydayMayday Cutting edge goblin tech Registered User regular
    So wait, a whole thread for one Minecraft boss? That seems kinda excessive.

  • SchideSchide Yeoh! Registered User regular
    I might get done with Blood & Wine this weekend.

    I don't know what I'm going to do with my life afterwards.

    Maybe open a bar, tell everybody that comes in my story, pass quietly in the night...

  • LalaboxLalabox Registered User regular
    re: mods and the last thread

    I tried to use the script merger, and I followed all the instructions, but it just seemed to cause even more script errors to pop up. Might try it again, I guess

  • LalaboxLalabox Registered User regular
    also, I did the mastercrafted armour quest and the reward was even worse than I remembered

  • WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    Lalabox wrote: »
    also, I did the mastercrafted armour quest and the reward was even worse than I remembered

    That quest is its own reward I reckon

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    I was like, man, are we really gonna start a new thread for a 2 year old game
    Of course we are

  • SilverWindSilverWind Registered User regular
    Where else are we going to have our Book Club meeting on Lady of the Lake?

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  • rhylithrhylith Death Rabbits HoustonRegistered User regular
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    I was like, man, are we really gonna start a new thread for a 2 year old game
    Of course we are

    They're good games, Grom.

  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    I got to say at this point I don't really give a fuck what happened to dandelion

  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    I got to say at this point I don't really give a fuck what happened to dandelion

    He's not worth it

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    Seeing off
    Triss was sad. I sort of chose the shoot her down option I guess, by not trying to get her to stay. I did kiss her by a fountain though.

    I loved Dijkstra's chewing out of Geralt after that. That whole conversation with him fills that character out beautifully. Maybe my next favourite character next to the baron? Or Johnny I guess, I love that little fucker.

  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    Wyborn wrote: »
    "Mr. G" You're one of the folks who plays Gwent, right

    Did you see this Nilfgaard shit because I did not

    I only really checked in on it a little bit when it first launched, I went "this is really cool but super buggy"

    I'm waiting on a Steam release, I think

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  • WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    Seeing off
    Triss was sad. I sort of chose the shoot her down option I guess, by not trying to get her to stay. I did kiss her by a fountain though.

    I loved Dijkstra's chewing out of Geralt after that. That whole conversation with him fills that character out beautifully. Maybe my next favourite character next to the baron? Or Johnny I guess, I love that little fucker.

    Yeeeah
    The way this conversation changes depending on how the quest with Triss goes is pretty interesting. If you try to pursue Triss and ask her to stay but she refuses because you messed up, he commiserates with you a while and talks about going out to get drunk.

    Dijkstra is such a huge piece of shit, but it's clear that he's a spymaster at least partially because he's so personable. They play that angle up a lot every time he's on screen. You really feel like he's your buddy, even though he's decidedly not.

    Also he ships Geralt and Triss super hard for whatever reason

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  • SilverWindSilverWind Registered User regular
    No Tube Please
    I'm pretty sure Dijkstra is #TeamTriss because Triss is pro Northern Realms while Yennefer is uncontrollable/unpredictable and was siding up to Emhyr in order to find Ciri. Geralt choosing Triss over Yen would also make Geralt more of a... known factor?

    I like Dijkstra and he's charming but I don't assume for a moment the guy does anything that doesn't benefit himself and/or Redania

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    There is kind of a hole in the plot at the moment that leads me to understand why so many people are into Triss: Yenn is basically totally absent. You kind of have to take the story's word for it at this point that "oh Yenn and Geralt are meant to be" because we haven't been given enough evidence of it.

  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    There is kind of a hole in the plot at the moment that leads me to understand why so many people are into Triss: Yenn is basically totally absent. You kind of have to take the story's word for it at this point that "oh Yenn and Geralt are meant to be" because we haven't been given enough evidence of it.

    You will get way, way more Yennefer for the rest of the game once you go to Skellige

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  • No Great NameNo Great Name FRAUD DETECTED Registered User regular
    Alright, played 70 hours of the game, but haven't played it in over a year.

    Should I totally restart or just jump right back in? When should I do the DLCs?

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  • SilverWindSilverWind Registered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    There is kind of a hole in the plot at the moment that leads me to understand why so many people are into Triss: Yenn is basically totally absent. You kind of have to take the story's word for it at this point that "oh Yenn and Geralt are meant to be" because we haven't been given enough evidence of it.

    You can go to Skellege whenever! Though it's true, the way people focus on the quests means most people wait until they're done the main quests in Novigrad.

    There's a slight expectation that the player know the books. Or at least it's written in a way so that book readers have more of an impetus to choose Yen compared to Triss.

    From an ardent Yen fan I'd say CDPR kind of set it up like a trap? You see Geralt's dream with Yen and Ciri at the start of the game, which the game notes never actually happened. But then when you first meet Yen at the start of the game she's cold and somewhat confrontational and in work mode. Geralt has to hang on and not mess up like he did with Triss in the past

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    Yen complimented my beard when I was fully shaven. rip this game cause of death casuals.

  • WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    For a quest you might do very soon:
    When you dress up nice, remember to take off your gloves

    I forgot

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    I thought this game was triple A, that's all.
    I remembered the gloves, does she get mad?

  • WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    edited February 2017
    Barber tech could use some work
    She's just kind of exasperated that she asked you to dress up nice and you managed to fuck up. She makes a pithy remark but that's about it

    Based on what I remember of her response it's probably the same if you mess up one item vs. coming in your full ass-whooping gear, so I was like "Damn girl I just fouled up one thing does that make me a scrub" and the answer was yes

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    It's pretty obvious right away the difference between Yen and Triss. They just feel like they go together.

  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    Also did anyone else
    throw the race

    because I did

    and did anyone on the entire fucking planet
    not kill whoreson junior

  • WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    edited February 2017
    G and Y
    Regardless of how you end up playing that part of Geralt's personality, the relationship that they have with each other and with Ciri is the backbone of the entire game

    At the most extreme degree of animosity they're like a married couple who've gone through an extended separation. There's a sense of comfortable familiarity there, people who knew each other and lived together for decades, and also the most important thing in their life is their (adopted) child. Even if they decide they can't be together, they put Ciri first in everything, and it's good

    Beyond anything else in the whole game, Geralt and Yennefer's relationship, the way they relate to each other even when they're not talking to each other, is the best-written bit for me. They represent a mature relationship of the kind that video games almost never bother to deal with

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    When Priscilla showed up
    at the ambush like "hey guys let's hang out" I just thought man this has got "goes to shit" written all over it.

  • SilverWindSilverWind Registered User regular
    Oh hey, just found this out if you chose to free the tree
    Wiki on the Dandelion's flings quest says: "If you freed the spirit in the Whispering Hillock, you can find a note on Marabella's desk called 'New admissions to Miss Marabella's shelter'. The note identifies each of the orphans Crookback Bog by name, having mysteriously appeared, asleep on the doorstep of the shelter, thus proving the evil spirit kept its word, saving the children's lives"

    I know we spotted one kid and the name matched, but it was a little hard to confirm because the kids all look pretty similar. But glad to hear there's also another confirmation that that happened.

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  • metaghostmetaghost An intriguing odor A delicate touchRegistered User regular
    I always found it a little odd that the kids never remark upon recognizing Geralt. But I guess they may have been under a spell?

  • KetBraKetBra Dressed Ridiculously Registered User regular
    metaghost wrote: »
    I always found it a little odd that the kids never remark upon recognizing Geralt. But I guess they may have been under a spell?

    I am guessing they were under a spell, much like Gran was

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  • Randy ButternubbsRandy Butternubbs Registered User regular
    edited February 2017
    WRT the Yenn v Triss thing
    I always found it very easy to go with Triss. Yenn's whole thing of refusing to cut Geralt any slack for being with Triss after he fuckin died, was saved from the wild Hunt and lost his damn memory sealed it for me pretty well. As an explanation of why she didn't contact him earlier it's fine, but continuing to be upset about it like it's legitimate was too much for me. At heart it just screams of selfishness. Like "oh it was so hard to know you had abandoned and betrayed me even though I know that you didn't even remember who you were or anything about your own life. Who cares that you literally came back from the dead, I felt bad! Woe is me!"

    On top of that her continuing the strategy of not keeping Geralt in the loop/not being straight and honest with him shows that she either doesn't trust him which there is no reason for or doesn't respect him enough to take his thoughts and feelings into consideration when she's making decisions that impact the both of them and Ciri. Either way it's a strong dealbreaker wrt to how I played Geralt.

    Like things change and Geralt had to both start over from nothing, had tons of crazy world altering shenanigans to deal with during that time which was 5 full dang years without a single word. If you can't get past a stupid hangup that has zero justification or change your pattern of not treating the partner you want as an equal then there's nothing much to discuss.

    God forbid he's with someone who cares for him and treats him with respect and understanding.

    Team Triss yo

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  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    WRT the Yenn v Triss thing
    I always found it very easy to go with Triss. Yenn's whole thing of refusing to cut Geralt any slack for being with Triss after he fuckin died, was saved from the wild Hunt and lost his damn memory sealed it for me pretty well. As an explanation of why she didn't contact him earlier it's fine, but continuing to be upset about it like it's legitimate was too much for me. At heart it just screams of selfishness. Like "oh it was so hard to know you had abandoned and betrayed me even though I know that you didn't even remember who you were or anything about your own life. Who cares that you literally came back from the dead, I felt bad! Woe is me!"

    On top of that her continuing the strategy of not keeping Geralt in the loop/not being straight and honest with him shows that she either doesn't trust him which there is no reason for or doesn't respect him enough to take his thoughts and feelings into consideration when she's making decisions that impact the both of them and Ciri. Either way it's a strong dealbreaker wrt to how I played Geralt.

    Like things change and Geralt had to both start over from nothing, had tons of crazy world altering shenanigans to deal with during that time which was 5 full dang years without a single word. If you can't get past a stupid hangup that has zero justification or change your pattern of not treating the partner you want as an equal then there's nothing much to discuss.

    God forbid he's with someone who cares for him and treats him with respect and understanding.

    Team Triss yo
    The respect and understanding to take advantage of and deceive him while he was not well, yes

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  • Randy ButternubbsRandy Butternubbs Registered User regular
    Mr. G wrote: »
    WRT the Yenn v Triss thing
    I always found it very easy to go with Triss. Yenn's whole thing of refusing to cut Geralt any slack for being with Triss after he fuckin died, was saved from the wild Hunt and lost his damn memory sealed it for me pretty well. As an explanation of why she didn't contact him earlier it's fine, but continuing to be upset about it like it's legitimate was too much for me. At heart it just screams of selfishness. Like "oh it was so hard to know you had abandoned and betrayed me even though I know that you didn't even remember who you were or anything about your own life. Who cares that you literally came back from the dead, I felt bad! Woe is me!"

    On top of that her continuing the strategy of not keeping Geralt in the loop/not being straight and honest with him shows that she either doesn't trust him which there is no reason for or doesn't respect him enough to take his thoughts and feelings into consideration when she's making decisions that impact the both of them and Ciri. Either way it's a strong dealbreaker wrt to how I played Geralt.

    Like things change and Geralt had to both start over from nothing, had tons of crazy world altering shenanigans to deal with during that time which was 5 full dang years without a single word. If you can't get past a stupid hangup that has zero justification or change your pattern of not treating the partner you want as an equal then there's nothing much to discuss.

    God forbid he's with someone who cares for him and treats him with respect and understanding.

    Team Triss yo
    The respect and understanding to take advantage of and deceive him while he was not well, yes
    Fair enough, but she at least shows genuine remorse, apologises without making excuses, and doesn't continue the same pattern.

  • SilverWindSilverWind Registered User regular
    Different strokes for different folks!

    Yen
    didn't know Geralt's memory was lost for such a substantially longer amount of time than hers, so when the first news of him comes up and it's that he's shagging Triss, again, she doesn't take it well. Which leads to her not reaching out to him, yes, because she's fundamentally insecure about her ability to love and be loved. Her being upset at Geralt is partially reasonable not-entirely-logical human jealousy and partially her clearly being upset at herself and lashing out as a result of that. Which is very quickly dispelled if you move towards romancing her and mending that rift.


    Regarding being straight and honest with Geralt, though, you're incorrect--she doesn't always explain her actions but she is honest when she does explain. She lays out her reasons for withholding information too--usually because Geralt/the druids/the other Witchers will freak out. And when they find out, they do. :P Yes, she is headstrong and doesn't like consulting with people about her choices, that much is true. Each outlandish plan of hers works, however, despite everyone else's concerns.

    Oh, and her intentions are always completely on the level, namely, to find and protect Ciri.

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    That damn unicorn callback

  • Zilla360Zilla360 21st Century. |She/Her| Trans* Woman In Aviators Firing A Bazooka. ⚛️Registered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    and did anyone on the entire fucking planet
    not kill whoreson junior
    I killed him so hard his mangled body probably went into the sun. Like, dead as soon as my Geralt made eye contact.

  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    I wonder if there's any payoff at all to the other choice

  • metaghostmetaghost An intriguing odor A delicate touchRegistered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    I wonder if there's any payoff at all to the other choice

    If memory serves, there is, but less so than having Geralt finish him there and then.

  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    I wonder if there's any payoff at all to the other choice

    Sparing Whoreson Jr:

  • KetBraKetBra Dressed Ridiculously Registered User regular
    I think there's some story spoilers in that video relative to where tube is FYI

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