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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I wonder if we'll get an explanation how Maz ended up with Luke's old lightsaber

    I really don't care.

    That is the least of things that need explanation

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    Theodore FlooseveltTheodore Floosevelt proud parent of eight beautiful girls and shalmelo dorne (which is currently being ruled by a woman (awesome role model for my daughters)) #dornedadRegistered User regular
    Karl wrote: »
    Karl wrote: »
    I remember in the old EU that Luke was considered the best lightsaber duelist. I would expect that not to change but who the fuck knows now

    Well, Anakin was among the best duelists and Luke beat him with minimal training and experience.

    Anakin was old and missing all his limbs at that point. I feel luke had a bit of a physical advantage.

    stover's novelization of ROTS making explicit how much of an intentional limiter palpatine's whole darth vader apparatus was for anakin was something i liked having laid out

    i don't know that it could be really supported by the movies alone

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    JayKaosJayKaos Registered User regular
    I wonder if we'll get an explanation how Maz ended up with Luke's old lightsaber

    A twenty minute montage starting in some weird-looking alien pulling it out of the trash, selling it to another alien, and so on until Maz gets hold of it.

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    CenoCeno pizza time Registered User regular
    Luke chucked his green lightsaber away in ROTJ and I always presumed it blew up on the second Death Star, so if he has one, it'll be a new one that he built in between ROTJ and whenever the new academy got sacked

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    Karl wrote: »
    Karl wrote: »
    I remember in the old EU that Luke was considered the best lightsaber duelist. I would expect that not to change but who the fuck knows now

    Well, Anakin was among the best duelists and Luke beat him with minimal training and experience.

    Anakin was old and missing all his limbs at that point. I feel luke had a bit of a physical advantage.

    The suit certainly wasn't doing him any favours

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=FVzc20Bm8Xo

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    el_vicioel_vicio Registered User regular
    According to Rogue one, the suit didn't really hinder Vader. But 2 days later, when Obi-Wan shows up on the Death Star...

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    One thing I liked about Rogue One:
    Vader blocks a blaster shot a la Empire strikes back. It's a nice little touch that I missed the first two times I saw that scene.

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    see317see317 Registered User regular
    el_vicio wrote: »
    According to Rogue one, the suit didn't really hinder Vader. But 2 days later, when Obi-Wan shows up on the Death Star...
    He still went toe to toe with one of the greatest Jedi of recent memory, his own master, and won?
    Sure, Obi did the whole "If you strike me down..." bit, but Vader is still the one that walked away from the fight.

    And I'm guessing there's a world of difference between butchering terrified ground troops in a confined hallway and dueling a master.

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    I super love how dumb and great and dumb the stuff about Vaders suit is, like the costume is kinda clunky and stiff on the actor in real life so nerds wrote tons of fiction about how the suit is terrible and a hindrance and deliberately looks like a stiff and clunky costume from a 1970's movie production

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    TubeTube Registered User admin
    See Vader looked goofy in that scene because the choreography was bad and Alec Guiness was 200 years old.

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    el_vicioel_vicio Registered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    See Vader looked goofy in that scene because the choreography was bad and Alec Guiness was 200 years old.

    I understand that? But if the argument is "yeah well if they made it today, it would be different, so the new stuff fits!", then movie canon is out of the window anyway

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    edited April 2017
    Tube wrote: »
    See Vader looked goofy in that scene because the choreography was bad and Alec Guiness was 200 years old.

    No they were Force Mind Fencing, it only looked like bad choreography between a 200 year old man with extreme contempt for the movie he is in and a dude with a bucket on his head because you couldn't see the psychic battlefield

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    TubeTube Registered User admin
    There's some stuff that's just theatre of the mind.

    Like Darth Vader did that scene in Rogue One, and then went and switched to a less shiny helmet before pursuing.

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    CenoCeno pizza time Registered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    There's some stuff that's just theatre of the mind.

    Like Darth Vader did that scene in Rogue One, and then went and switched to a less shiny helmet before pursuing.

    They really should add a cloud of dust swirling around him in that last shot on the blu-ray

    Or show a stormtrooper sock him in the bean with a bag of flour in a hilarious post-credits moment

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    Doctor DetroitDoctor Detroit Registered User regular
    edited April 2017
    Ceno wrote: »
    Luke chucked his green lightsaber away in ROTJ and I always presumed it blew up on the second Death Star, so if he has one, it'll be a new one that he built in between ROTJ and whenever the new academy got sacked

    Pretty sure he's got it when he shows up for yub nub.

    Edit: Yep. Swinging from his belt as he walks into the village. And it's the ghost Hayden version of ROTJ, which should be the most recent.

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    XeddicusXeddicus Registered User regular
    edited April 2017
    Regarding how they could show Luke's power and the EU: One of the things they could lift mostly whole sale from the EU is a scene where Luke and one of his students is on top of something and they have to get down. Luke just jumps and kind of floats down serenely if I recall correctly. The student clunks down like he's repelling.

    And at another point he's thinking he could reach out and crush some ships hull, but he shouldn't. And he asks Han if he understands. And Han says he does, but thinks no, not really.

    So Rey fills in the first one and since there's no Han Luke crushes some First Order ships.

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    Doctor DetroitDoctor Detroit Registered User regular
    I wouldn't mind seeing Luke vs Walker, round 2, a la Dark Empire.

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    Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    So in x wing is the tie defender considered not good? Because I just play with my friends but when I do I melt faces with it.

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    TubeTube Registered User admin
    The TIE Defender is insanely overpowered

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    DaypigeonDaypigeon Registered User regular
    i've been outta the scene for a minute, but i'm pretty sure following imp vets the tie-d is top tier as hell

    if you're not using the upgrades from that set it's considered under par, though

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    Dark Raven XDark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
    Watching Phantom Menace. Padme pretending to be Padme is kinda. Unnecessary.

    But props to casting Keira as the decoy. They look so alike.

    Oh brilliant
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    PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    edited April 2017
    Daypigeon wrote: »
    i've been outta the scene for a minute, but i'm pretty sure following imp vets the tie-d is top tier as hell

    if you're not using the upgrades from that set it's considered under par, though

    More specifically the x7 title. It just got nerfed, but it still makes them terrifying.

    TIE/D is good, but it's not x7 so it rarely gets used.

    Imp Vets is an all-around excellent box to buy if you fly imps. It helps bombers a bit too with a title (get crew instead of ordnance) and some good pilots.

    Tomax and Ryad are delightful. Tomax would be horribly OP in any other ship.

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    Dark Raven XDark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
    Whooo, Duel Of Fates

    Is a little moment, but I'm a big fan of the way Maul grabs a bit of junk to throw at the door panel. Ray Park's performance is all physical, what with getting dubbed over, but he did a good job conveying this guy's personality with movement. The way he tosses that bit of junk is unnecessarily vicious, I love it <3

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    TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    I heard the most amazing story over the weekend of Ray Park at DragonCon many years ago getting into a confrontation with a drunk, punchy hotel guest who had no idea who he was, only that he was walking into one of their famous all-night room parties.

    Short version is the guy was staying in the room next door and didn't appreciate the noise coming out of the room, so rather than confront the people actually inside, he got in the face of the first person he saw that was headed towards the door. The scene was a total Jackie Chan moment as the guy swung at Park over and over, while Park just dodged and side-stepped everything smoothly until the guy almost threw himself over the balcony lunging for the guy. Thankfully nothing was hurt but pride.

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    TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Daypigeon wrote: »
    i've been outta the scene for a minute, but i'm pretty sure following imp vets the tie-d is top tier as hell

    if you're not using the upgrades from that set it's considered under par, though

    More specifically the x7 title. It just got nerfed, but it still makes them terrifying.

    TIE/D is good, but it's not x7 so it rarely gets used.

    Imp Vets is an all-around excellent box to buy if you fly imps. It helps bombers a bit too with a title (get crew instead of ordnance) and some good pilots.

    Tomax and Ryad are delightful. Tomax would be horribly OP in any other ship.

    Oh, i thought yall were talking about the old DOS xwing/tie fighter games, where the Defender was the end game ship, so i was like, yeah, of course it's good.

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    I want any fight Old Luke gets in to just be him winking at a dude who then has a blood vessel just blow up in his brain and keels over dead

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    TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    edited April 2017
    My friend Victor was showing off his new Mandalorian pilot cosplay over the weekend when he met up with Dave Filoni (showrunner of Clone Wars and Rebels). There was some space on his and his friends' helmets so Dave offered to fill that space in with a graphic.
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    They'll never wash or repaint those helmets again! They call themselves Wolf Squadron now.

    My pal James and his partner Emma got some fantastic photos as Captain Rex and Ashoka Tano (plus Emma in her newly-completed Sabine Wren) before helping the 501st take some vacation photos over at Cocoa Beach to recreate some scenes similar to those cut from Rogue One!
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    Anyway, I didn't have a great time for my money at the convention (It's mostly a huge store to buy things and/or wait in line for 3+ hours to see a single panel) but I think that would have been improved significantly had I put a costume together.

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    ShadowenShadowen Snores in the morning LoserdomRegistered User regular
    edited April 2017
    Apropos of nothing, just something I stumbled across.
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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    edited April 2017
    Karl wrote: »
    Karl wrote: »
    I remember in the old EU that Luke was considered the best lightsaber duelist. I would expect that not to change but who the fuck knows now

    Well, Anakin was among the best duelists and Luke beat him with minimal training and experience.

    Anakin was old and missing all his limbs at that point. I feel luke had a bit of a physical advantage.

    I've seen that RLM video, Vader's suit is also specifically designed to be shitty and agonizing

    EDIT: Wow that's what I get for not checking the second page I guess

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    UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    Watching Phantom Menace. Padme pretending to be Padme is kinda. Unnecessary.

    But props to casting Keira as the decoy. They look so alike.

    Yes

    Everyone rewatch the prequels

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    Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    Watching Phantom Menace. Padme pretending to be Padme is kinda. Unnecessary.

    But props to casting Keira as the decoy. They look so alike.

    Yes

    Everyone rewatch the prequels

    How dare you threaten me this way

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    Dark Raven XDark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
    I'm halfway through Attack of the Clones.

    Hot take; baby Anakin was less terrible than teenage Anakin.

    Oh brilliant
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    jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    On Vader and Rogue One/ANH choreography (pretty sure I've posted something like this before):
    While the Vader scene happens pretty quickly all things considered, Vaders movements were actually pretty limited. If you watch it again, he mostly makes big sweeping slashes, slow jabs when he's basically in no danger, and doesn't move down the hallway all that quickly. Slow enough for guys to get to the end of the hallway and throw the data chip to safety, anyway. He puts his body into all of the big slashes, like it's taking all of his effort. The quickest movements are the blaster deflections but even those aren't crazy. I think they actually did a good job of keeping Vader moving like ANH Vader.

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    fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    Mr. G wrote: »
    Watching Phantom Menace. Padme pretending to be Padme is kinda. Unnecessary.

    But props to casting Keira as the decoy. They look so alike.

    Yes

    Everyone rewatch the prequels

    How dare you threaten me this way

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2ywJQUnBOM

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    Handsome CostanzaHandsome Costanza Ask me about 8bitdo RIP Iwata-sanRegistered User regular
    edited April 2017
    TankHammer wrote: »
    My friend Victor was showing off his new Mandalorian pilot cosplay over the weekend when he met up with Dave Filoni (showrunner of Clone Wars and Rebels). There was some space on his and his friends' helmets so Dave offered to fill that space in with a graphic.
    ln3hSayl.jpg7TGUWzSl.jpg4O86qYfl.jpggrpzu1jl.jpghvPCZWwl.jpg8apIqzPh.jpg

    They'll never wash or repaint those helmets again! They call themselves Wolf Squadron now.

    My pal James and his partner Emma got some fantastic photos as Captain Rex and Ashoka Tano (plus Emma in her newly-completed Sabine Wren) before helping the 501st take some vacation photos over at Cocoa Beach to recreate some scenes similar to those cut from Rogue One!
    hml5dUGl.jpgAX26BJgl.jpgPjjNhHJl.jpgUcRtjcZl.jpgqArDYWLl.jpgNoSuFpsl.jpgWTYv76kl.jpg

    Anyway, I didn't have a great time for my money at the convention (It's mostly a huge store to buy things and/or wait in line for 3+ hours to see a single panel) but I think that would have been improved significantly had I put a costume together.

    3 hours? What crazy ass time machine were you using to make the wait only 3 hours? Both the 40th Anniv. and the TLJ panel were 15+ hour waits (18 if you count the actual act of lining up to enter the galaxy stage) I waited longer in line for the TLJ panel than it took for me to drive from Texas to Orlando.

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    TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    edited April 2017
    I'm giving the low estimate to encompass all the attractions. Even the gift shop was 3-4 hours to get inside.

    I never waited overnight or lined up at 4am or any of that bullshit. Just to see a panel that was going up live on the Internet and a $2 poster? That would just make me hate Star Wars and all Star Wars fans forever, I think.

    I was pissed enough when I waited 3 hours in that fucking cattle pen on Friday morning only for the clowns running the show to open all the doors at the same time, letting the outside public cut in front of the line.

    ReedPop did a stunningly bad job from start to finish keeping things organized.

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    Handsome CostanzaHandsome Costanza Ask me about 8bitdo RIP Iwata-sanRegistered User regular
    edited April 2017
    TankHammer wrote: »
    I'm giving the low estimate to encompass all the attractions. Even the gift shop was 3-4 hours to get inside.

    I never waited overnight or lined up at 4am or any of that bullshit. Just to see a panel that was going up live on the Internet and a $2 poster? That would just make me hate Star Wars and all Star Wars fans forever, I think.

    I was pissed enough when I waited 3 hours in that fucking cattle pen on Friday morning only for the clowns running the show to open all the doors at the same time, letting the outside public cut in front of the line.

    ReedPop did a stunningly bad job from start to finish keeping things organized.

    Yeah I saw that 3 hour wait sign on the line to the celebration store and noped the fuck out of there.


    Edit: I know it doesn't seem like it from the outside.. but waiting for the 40th anniv and TLJ panels was so so worth it. I watched the TLJ trailer for the first time with Daisy Ridley, John Boyega, and Mark fucking Hamill. We all experienced that shit for the first time at the same time, in the same room, twice! It was like hanging out with friends and a new trailer gets uploaded so you all gather together to watch it.. all five thousand of us.

    Did I mention that I went to Star Wars Celebration?

    Also the poster is selling for upwards of $400 on ebay right now.

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    TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular

    Also the poster is selling for upwards of $400 on ebay right now.

    Holy shit, seriously? Are they numbered? Notorized? I know where I can get some 11x17s printed if not. The con might not be a total bust after all!

    I just saw people carrying handfuls of them all over after the panel but didn't care enough to ask for one because I wasn't spending what little money I had on signatures and don't really have a place to hang posters up at the moment.

    No matter how much fun it sounds to share a moment with a couple thousand people and four celebrities, nothing is worth spending the night in that nerd Hooverville laying on concrete.

    I'm glad you enjoyed it. I just can't get into your head space. I kinda wish I had saved my money on passes and spent it on tickets to the 501st's party instead. They had Weird Al and Twi'lek dancers!

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    manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    I'll believe it's "the end of the Jedi" when I see it. Right now, it's marketing buzz for fans to gnash their teeth over.

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    Handsome CostanzaHandsome Costanza Ask me about 8bitdo RIP Iwata-sanRegistered User regular
    edited April 2017
    No they're not numbered. Yeah I know.




    They only handed out 1 per person and were pretty hardcore about it. If someone had more than one they were holding it for someone else.


    edit: also I kinda had a lot of fun at the sleepover? I met new friends who I played Nintendo Switch all night with. I even found a secret room that I snuck a cigarrette or two in .

    I could have done without lightsaber fight club yelling out "OOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAH!" all through the night though. Good for you you hit another guy with a plastic toy, fuckoff when people are trying to sleep.

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