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Penny Arcade - Comic - The Things We Do For Skins
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Penny Arcade - Comic - The Things We Do For Skins
Videogaming-related online strip by Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins. Includes news and commentary.
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I also tried Hearthstone recently... it was the most infuriating game I've ever played.
For the record, as someone who is not a fan of MOBAs, I can tolerate HotS more than LoL (which I have also played, and for the same reasons, ie, friends ask me to play with them) precisely because games don't last an hour. A game of HotS seems to last like half as long as a game of LoL. Rounds are comparatively quick in most scenarios I've tried.
Obviously it won't take the dragon an hour to attack the enemy's ass with fuckin' shit. At the 30 minute mark the fuckin' shit will be so strong it will win the game all on its own.
Eventually you'll be able to get the skin from a lootbox. The HotS thing isn't so bad though, you don't have to win the games, you just have to play some games. 10, I believe.
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It's like they feel like they have a sort of license just because they're artists.
I think the joke is that Gabe is bad enough to make things that aren't supposed to happen happen.
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Like, "an hour" is apparently an exaggeration, but the general idea of "the game lasted quite some time after it was effectively impossible for us to win" comes through, even if the time is closer to half of what's said in the strip.
Still, at least it's not, like, Monopoly.
DotA and LoL are games that take an hour to lose and I can't stand them. HotS is not. HotS is way faster, more varied, and more exciting than other MOBAs I've played, but now some people might avoid it because Gabe grossly exaggerated what he didn't like about it.
Basically, people are fine reading hilarious strips often using hyperbole when it's about OTHER people's babies.
It's definitely fine to not like a game, to each their own, but I think what makes HOTS players sad about this comic is that it is turning off potential new players with unfair exaggerations. It's actually not as grueling as the comic makes it out to be to play, with a friend, 5 Versus AI games (these can be completed in under 5 minutes each if you cheese the beginner AI) and 5 quickmatch games (these games typically last about 20 minutes unless it's a stomp). Winning is not even a requirement to get the skin. We HOTS players are excited about the cross-promotion, and I think we've seen a lot of new players start playing the game beyond the requirements for the OW skin because they found they enjoyed it, which is great for the (relatively small, compared to LoL and DOTA2) HOTS community. So again, it is just sad to see some high visibility bashing of our less-popular-but-not-less-loved game with incorrect information being presented to readers who may have been interested in trying it before reading the comic.
unless everyone playing is a fucking vegetable.
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Reddit also seems to be unhappy with the strip: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/6ad57v/unfortunate_misrepresentation_of_hots_in_penny/
I don't feel this is any harsher of a critique than those we've seen PA level at other games over the years.
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I played League, I played Dota 2 (and original Dota in Warcraft 3), and I play HOTS. I've never had a game get close to an hour. That was the huge draw of HOTS. That's why when I'm feeling like a MOBA I play HOTS, not the others. That, and it's centered around teamfighting over those objectives in panel 2. Which also shortens the game.
Jerry's write up for this one doesn't excuse the misrepresentation one of the game's major selling points, which is the shorter games. It's just not logical to have that be your punchline.
Also, if you want to see the statistics that show it's in the very low 20's, here's some data from hotslogs put into excel:
http://imgur.com/NVzLSJc
I've laughed at many of the harsh critiques they've given of games that I love. I even was laughing by the second panel here! But it's the completely false third panel that is the issue. They're claiming 40 minutes longer than the statistical average of 20-21 minutes.
I feel like we're under siege
Maybe just chill out and go play some HotS? Even if you only play one game, it's still an hour of enjoyment instead of worrying about what someone said about the game you like on the internet.
Games take 30 min at most, and they add one or two unique objectives per map to make it something other than boring laning.
Joke about the game all you want, but all I see is an attack on the game using complete falsehoods.
First, this comic says a match takes an hour. This is ridiculously false.
In my two years of playing this game, a match usually takes 15-23 min. 10 min is really fast, but possible. 20 min+ is late game. 30 min is super ultra late game. I only had five games that lasted 40 min, and that's just insane.
So 60 min is not an hyperbole. It's a plain lie. And a lie that can scare people off of the game. I know because I left Dota2 where a typical match does last 60 min, or even 80. Or 180. So it brings up the PTSD I have from that game ^^
Second, this comic says objectives are confusing. In fact, they're anything but confusing. They're too simple, in my opinion. Once every ~3 min, an area highlights on the map about 20 sec in advance, you go there and fight the enemy team for it. If you win, you get a unique pushing power.
That's it. You can't really be confused by it. Sure, it takes time to master it, but getting into it is immeasurably easier than learning hundreds of items in LoL, Dota2 or Smite.
Thanks for supporting our community! But I don't understand why everyone keeps mentioning 30 min. In HotS, a typical match ends at 25 min at most. 30 min is only possible if both teams have global compositions on Dragon Shire or late-game comps on Tomb of the Spider Queen, and neither team can finish the game. That is, fringe situations. One in a hundred games. But not a rule. 25 min is already a super late game, and whoever wins a teamfight, wins a game 100%.
Yeah, they can do it much faster, like an hour tops.
So play one more game before they close it down.
Yeah, you dont really wanna play games that remind you of how much of a shit awful player you are