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Yes, I know it's a scam.
I have an old friend who is sipping on their koolaid and thinks she can use her Amway "team" to network and develop a home business (selling non-Amway products).
I don't care if this ends up a six or twelve month flight of fancy that goes nowhere. I just don't want her to fall into something that's going to wreck her life.
So, have you had experiences with Amway or been close to somebody who has? Was it life-destroying, or merely irritating?
I have an old friend who is sipping on their koolaid and thinks she can use her Amway "team" to network and develop a home business (selling non-Amway products).
I don't care if this ends up a six or twelve month flight of fancy that goes nowhere. I just don't want her to fall into something that's going to wreck her life.
So, have you had experiences with Amway or been close to somebody who has? Was it life-destroying, or merely irritating?
every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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It should be the same as any other financial endeavor that the expenses do not dip into other savings either. They should still keep their emergency fund at 3-6 months minimum and only use that when this fails by sucking up the funds set aside for this venture and they decide to look for a job again.
If you can steer her clear, do that. If you can't, just.. don't buy anything, even if you think you'll be helping her out. Your money will end up higher up the pyramid and you'll only encourage her.
I know that's not the usual sort of advice on this forum, but maybe this is one of those situations when being an asshole isn't a bad idea.
Edit: His wife left him about a year later. I think some people just need to hit bottom before they can step outside and realistically consider where they're at, where they're going, and how they'll get there.
Edit edit: Considering this timeline, I guess there's an argument that Cutco was life-destroying rather than merely irritating, but that would be confusing correlation with causation. So if there's any value in my anecdote at all, I guess it's that your friend should just take a breather, figure out how she hopes her life will change with Amway (i.e., why does she want untold riches), and then take a different approach to effectuating that change.
Ceres is on it. Yeah. I can see how trying to game the system to make contacts sounds appealing, but this isn't like joining a tech company and doing freelance Java on the side.
There's no typical interactions with other salespeople, there's the person who signed you up and the people you scam into signing up. If you were to try to get customers for your business after attempting an Amway pitch no one would be interested. Pyramid schemes just filter money upward, they're not actually businesses.
If whatever business she's trying to start needs Amway as an opener, it's not going to be successful anyway.
John Oliver gives a convincing argument against MLMs. Specifically mentioning Amway.
If someone tries to talk to me about a sales opportunity I basically write them off as a person I will no longer willingly interact with.
Just tell her there is no such thing as an Amway team. There are varying degrees of being a sucker.
So, they wind up spending tons of dough traveling to these seminars, which are just nonsense. There's also a religious element - they have a lot of tie in with the baptist community in the states. I've been to one of their sunday services - it was all about how if you believed hard enough in Amway, God would shower you with money, and if it wasn't working, that was because you weren't believing hard enough.
In my experience, these people, and other people trapped in Amway's grip, would not be open to being contacts for selling or buying other products, as they are near-religiously devoted to Amway products. They use all Amway everything in their homes (from makeup to energy drinks to toothpaste) and would consider a suggestion otherwise a kind of betrayal.
I wouldn't call it life destroying, exactly, but definitely life limiting and especially detrimental to one's social life.
I'd love it if you took a look at my art and my PATREON!
That said, on the broader issue: don't. Do not. Wave off.
Had parents, and friends of parents, in "the business" as a kid, let a friend talk to me about it in college as a result, decided it was not at all for me/who I was.
ugh it's so gross how they call it "the business" and then people like my friends' parents (who never make any money on it, ever) start calling it "our family business" or "our business" and then get all like "why don't you want to go into the family business??" when their kids don't want to join up
I'd love it if you took a look at my art and my PATREON!
I don't think they ever made any serious money on it. More like they bought soap and toothpaste for our house and then made enough to cover that selling more cleaner and stuff to a few family friends. It was ok, but it wasn't their main way to make money.
It's only life destroying if you really believe the hype and buy in, but dont end up with clients before buying stock, and end up filling your own house with overstock of product trying to meet the sales goals for the next level.
I guess I hated the toothpaste and wished my parents would just buy Crest. So that destroyed my life pretty hard as an 8 year old.
but they're listening to every word I say
Yeah, Confederated Products is a different company, a different quality of product.
Do whatever you can to discourage your friend. They will not do well with Amway and will not succeed in using them as a springboard for another business.
So it's Scientology but with makeup and toothpaste instead of aliens and hidden knowledge.
At least for those on top of the pyramid.
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
YMMV with this in the US though if you're in a Red State.
No it sells great in red states too.
Though if that state is Alabama, I believe it is illegal to sell sex toys. But I believe you can sell personal massagers and ornamental novelty dicks.
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EDIT: this gets even better if you consider what "tupping" means in British English (exactly what you'd think).