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US Congress CXV Thread: Don't Ask, Won't Tell

So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
edited June 2017 in Debate and/or Discourse
Previous OP:

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We have lots of threads about the other branches of government. But what about everyone's favorite branch, the Legislative? We're a month or so into the 115th Congress, and there's a lot of things going on! This is your spot to discuss bills moving their way through congress, upcoming votes, hearings that may be going on, and general congressional drama.

But first, let's take a look at our congressional leadership.

In the House, the current Speaker is Paul Ryan (R-Wisconsin 1st District). His stated agenda is repealing the ACA, and he would also like to replace it with something. He's not sure what he'll be replacing it with, but rest assured it will be great. He also wants to cut taxes for rich people and raise them for poor people. Please don't ask him about Donald Trump.

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The House minority leader is still Nancy Pelosi (D- California 12th District).

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In the Senate, we have our Senate Majority Leader, Mitch McConnell (R-Kentucky). He's a big fan of the Trump agenda so far, as I would hope, considering his wife is in Trump's cabinet.

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Our Senate Minority Leader is Chuck Schumer (D - New York).

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Last but not least, many members have been recently deluged with calls, letters, emails about a lot of the actions the Trump administration has been taking. A lot of congresspeople have had some pretty rough townhalls lately, too. For example:


This is also the place to discuss those! This is not the place to discuss Trump's cabinet, his executive orders, his hair, the Surpreme Court, or the hit 90's sitcom Friends, except in how they pertain to Congress.

http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/

Go forth and let the congresscritters have a piece of your mind

moniker wrote: »
This might be worth adding to the OP:

https://www.everycrsreport.com

The rep from my old district (Mike Quigley D-IL 05) is working with some other Congress critters to have every Congressional Research Service report available to the public since they are available to any Member of Congress by request.


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  • So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    edited June 2017
    What is on topic?
    • Bills proposed in Congress, moving through, dying in committee, whatever
    • Congressional hearings/debates on said bills
    • Congresscritter statements on bills and issues related to bills
    • Legislative strategy - if this becomes too broad we will let you know. Keep it narrow to the bill(s) being discussed
    • Constituents giving their Congresscritters feedback at townhalls etc.

    What is very explicitly not on topic?
    • Democratic Party election strategy, discussion of leftist infighting, discussion of 2016 election, discussion of Dems in the 90s, etc
    • Change in Democratic Party leadership (in Congress or otherwise) until something significant happens, meaning a vote is actually called to change leadership or something. Something significant =/= people tweeting they want to unseat Pelosi.
    • General Trump stuff not related to bills/acts of Congress.
    • Discussion of 2018 midterms.
    • TBD but I'll know it when I see it. If your post contains the phrase "This is probably off topic" or "Not to derail, but" then you can go ahead and CTRL+A and DEL.


    Official prevention of cross contamination post.

    Trump admin and foreign policy issues: Foreign Policy Thread
    Trump admin/family corruption and grift not related to Russia: Corruption/Grift/Ethics Violations in the Trump Administration
    General Middle East goings on: The Middle East Thread
    Trump admin/government's treatment of the press: Freedom of the Press Thread
    Trump immigration policy, Muslim ban and beyond: Immigration Policy Thread


    Finally: propose a witty thread title and I'll pick one later today. I'm all out of wits today.

    So It Goes on
  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    Congress CXV: Speaker for the Dead

  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    moniker wrote: »
    Congress CXV: Speaker for the Dead

    Implies he's advocating for the dead, not to make more of them.

    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
  • ViskodViskod Registered User regular
    The first rule of the AHCA is don't talk about the AHCA.

  • SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
    Viskod wrote: »
    The first rule of the AHCA is don't talk about the AHCA.

    The second rule of AHCA is you better not talk about the AHCA or we will drag you out of your wheelchair and kick you out of the building sans wheelchair

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  • GONG-00GONG-00 Registered User regular
    I thought the catchy thread title was being worked on in secret?

    “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”
    Law and Order ≠ Justice
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  • SleepSleep Registered User regular
    US Congress CXV Thread: you can't stop us if we just don't let you know what we're doing

  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    moniker wrote: »
    Congress CXV: Speaker for the Dead

    Implies he's advocating for the dead, not to make more of them.

    We're all dead already. That's the only thing that explains....*gestures all around*

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  • PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    GONG-00 wrote: »
    I thought the catchy thread title was being worked on in secret?

    I was on the secret committee but not the double secret one

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  • MatevMatev Cero Miedo Registered User regular
    Congress Thread: It's a secret! (Shut up!)

    "Go down, kick ass, and set yourselves up as gods, that's our Prime Directive!"
    Hail Hydra
  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    GONG-00 wrote: »
    I thought the catchy thread title was being worked on in secret?

    That's what the mods say, but it's really just an intern in SIG's closet.

    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
  • GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    Congress Thread: What you don't know can't hurt you. I mean can. Can hurt you.

  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    Congress CXV: Sub-Chair of the Sub-Committee of the Caucus of Subterranean Sanitation

  • PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    edited June 2017
    For historical purposes here's where the generic ballot is now with 2018 like 17 months away
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    PantsB on
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  • KetBraKetBra Dressed Ridiculously Registered User regular
    Congress CXV: Don't Ask, Won't Tell

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  • So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    PantsB wrote: »
    For historical purposes here's where the generic ballot is now with 2018 like 17 months away
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    Congress CXV: Not a thread about the 2018 elections.

  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User, Transition Team regular
    The [US Congress CXV] thread title is being written in secret. Vote scheduled for pg99.

  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    spool32 wrote: »
    The [US Congress CXV] thread title is being written in secret. Vote scheduled for pg99.

    Wouldn't it be scheduled for page like, four?

    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User, Transition Team regular
    spool32 wrote: »
    The [US Congress CXV] thread title is being written in secret. Vote scheduled for pg99.

    Wouldn't it be scheduled for page like, four?

    You don't get to find out about the title options until the thread is about to close!

  • So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    Alright Ketbra wins for now. Session over, gavelling out. /BAM

  • GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    edited June 2017
    Gundi was warned for this.
    Well speaking back on topic, I really love how it took like a day after losing the special elections for democrats in the house to turn on each other publicly.

    Yeah that's super how you make a comeback by starting a pissing match match between House minority leadership and democratic rookie congresspeople.

    So It Goes on
  • Mr KhanMr Khan Not Everyone WAHHHRegistered User regular
    edited June 2017
    Mr Khan was warned for this.
    Gundi wrote: »
    Well speaking back on topic, I really love how it took like a day after losing the special elections for democrats in the house to turn on each other publicly.

    Yeah that's super how you make a comeback by starting a pissing match match between House minority leadership and democratic rookie congresspeople.

    Tension's been growing as the GOP's made successful inroads in areas where Unions used to keep the people voting Democrat. The problem is that many from these areas insist that the party needs to downplay social justice issues in order to try to reclaim these people, and that simply isn't going to happen in the party anymore. Not on the national level, anyway.

    Folks like Tim Ryan are buying into the Sanders myth that there's a dichotomy between social justice and economic justice and that focusing on one loses you the other.

    The only valid critique from Ryan and his crew is that Dem House leadership is ancient. Here's something i posted on GAF yesterday.
    Agriculture: Collin Peterson - 73 years old
    Appropriations: Nita Lowey - 80 years old (!)
    Armed Services: Adam Smith (WA) - 52
    Budget: John Yarmuth (KY) - 70
    Education: Bobby Scott (VA) - 70
    Energy/Commerce: Frank Pallone (NJ) - 65
    Ethics: Linda Sanchez (CA) - 48
    Financial Services: Maxine Waters (CA) - 79
    Foreign Affairs: Elliot Engel (NY) - 70
    Homeland Security: Bennie Thompson (MS) - 69
    House Admin: Bob Brady (PA) - 72
    Judiciary: John Conyers (MI) - 88 (!)
    Natural Resources: Raul Grijava (AZ) - 69
    Oversight: Elijah Cummings (MD) - 66
    Rules: Louise Slaughter (NY) - 87 (!)
    Science: Eddie Bernice Johnson (TX) - 82
    Small Business: Nydia Velazquez (NY) - 64
    Transit/Infrastructure: Peter DeFazio (OR) - 70
    Veterans Affairs: Tim Walz (MN) - 63 (but he's running for Governor so this is likely his last term)
    Ways and Means: Richard Neal (MA) - 68
    Intelligence: Adam Schiff (CA) - 56
    Joint Economic Committee: Carolyn Maloney (NY) - 71

    Only 5 of the Dem Ranking Members are too young to get Medicare.

    So It Goes on
  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited June 2017
    AngelHedgie was warned for this.
    The hardhats (socially conservative union workers) have been a long running problem, and are a large part of the collapse of progressive politics and organized labor. The problem is that they don't see how their economic and social issues are at odds with one another.

    So It Goes on
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  • Edith UpwardsEdith Upwards Registered User regular
    edited June 2017
    Edith Upwards was warned for this.


    Lee Fang is an investigative journalist for the Intercept.

    So It Goes on
  • fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    edited June 2017
    fightinfilipino was warned for this.


    Lee Fang is an investigative journalist for the Intercept.

    reading this sort of thing always gets my hackles up

    1) the source is the infamous Guccifer 2.0
    2) if this stuff is true, and Dems continue to listen, they will continue to never hold the majority and will keep losing elections nationwide

    So It Goes on
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  • So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    I cannot believe I just had to do that.

    Reread the mod post after the OP, then read it again.



  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    This might be worth adding to the OP:

    https://www.everycrsreport.com

    The rep from my old district (Mike Quigley D-IL 05) is working with some other Congress critters to have every Congressional Research Service report available to the public since they are available to any Member of Congress by request.

  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited June 2017
    Not sure if this was mentioned yet but Montana Dems sent Gianforte an orange jumpsuit for his first day in Congress.

    Just in case anybody forgets that one of our Representatives committed assault, pled guilty, and was essentially slapped on the wrist.

    When you're a white Republican man I guess you just get to be above the law. Remember when people used to resign in shame whenever they did something scandalous?

    I hope the stunt ruined his day but I doubt it fazed him.

    joshofalltrades on
  • AstaerethAstaereth In the belly of the beastRegistered User regular
    Remember when people used to resign in shame whenever they did something scandalous?

    Turns out shame was the only mechanism. Voters don't care.

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  • AbacusAbacus Registered User regular
    edited June 2017
    Abacus was warned for this.
    Nancy Pelosi answers to her many detractors:
    House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi on Thursday boasted about her qualifications to lead the House Democratic Caucus after members spent the week questioning whether she should remain as the face of the party, by calling herself a "master negotiator" and saying that whatever trouble she might be causing, "I'm worth the trouble."

    The California Democrat was asked several questions about her leadership after Democratic complaints about another special election loss, this time in Georgia's 6th congressional district, and why she deserves to lead the party.

    "So you want me to sing my praises? Is that what you're saying?" Pelosi asked. "I'm a master legislator. I am a strategic, politically astute leader. My leadership is recognized by many around the country and that's why I am able to attract the support that I do, which is essential to our elections, sad to say."

    "I have experience in winning the Congress," Pelosi said, pointing to her 2006 midterm victories.

    Pelosi repeatedly name-checked the likes of former House Speaker Tip O'Neil and recently-retired Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid as "effective" faces of the party who Republicans ran against in past elections, and lumped herself into the mix despite massive party losses in 2010 and 2014, culminating in President Trump's victory in 2016.

    "The fact is [Republicans] will always make a target ... They will always want to choose our leaders, and usually they go after the most effective because they want to... diminish the opportunity that we have," Pelosi said.

    "They've spent over $100 million demonizing me over in the 2010 elections and all the rest. I believe one of the reasons they did it is because I'm an effective leader," she said. "Whoever the leader is is going to be their target if the leader is effective."

    So It Goes on
  • ViskodViskod Registered User regular
    She's not wrong.

    It is just beyond stupid, on a cosmic level, to think Democrats have a problem because they couldn't flip these districts. Or won't be able to flip the House in 2018, or win a Presidential election in 2020.

  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Viskod wrote: »
    She's not wrong.

    It is just beyond stupid, on a cosmic level, to think Democrats have a problem because they couldn't flip these districts. Or won't be able to flip the House in 2018, or win a Presidential election in 2020.

    Or that Pelosi is somehow a drag on the Democratic Party.

  • So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    Well it looks like I have utterly failed to get my point across about what the scope of this thread is.

    I am closing this until further notice. Doesn't seem to be a need for discussing legislation at this point.

    Geth, close the thread.

  • GethGeth Legion Perseus VeilRegistered User, Moderator, Penny Arcade Staff, Vanilla Staff vanilla
    Affirmative So It Goes. Closing thread...

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