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[GoT][ASoIaF] S7 OPEN SPOILERS Open Throttle, Blurred Scenery [Read OP]
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Coming Back for the penultimate season is HBO's Game of Thrones, a medieval fantasy hack n' slash. Despite having 2 presumably large novels left, there are only 13 episodes to cover that.
Eventually coming to stores near you, the latest novel in the series from George R.R. Martin, The Winds of Winter.
RULES FOR THE THREAD: Aside from the general rules that govern most threads, there are two specific rules set here in the Got/ASoIaF thread.
1. Open spoilers for the TV show up to the current episode. Don't leak out details for episodes that have not aired yet, and don't complain if something gets spoiled for you if you're reading this. You've been warned.
2. Closed spoilers for the books. This is big, do not openly discuss things in the books that have not happened, or that are significantly differing from the show. Again, you've been warned.
FAQ
Q. I'm new and I'd like to start watching/reading this, how can I do it?
A. HBO's online site has all of the episodes. I hear you can stream them through Amazon Prime, but it still will cost the same as an HBO NOW subscription. All five of the books are widely available and can be gotten for fairly cheap as a set ($40-50).
Q. You don't have a lot on the front page, why is that?
A. Because if you don't know much of the show, we're 6.27 seasons and 4 books deep into the series, and this series is full of huge twists you probably won't see coming. I don't want to list characters because it may end up revealing some unintentional plot points. Basically, this is a thread for people who have already been exposed to the newest stuff, or don't mind having the story spoiled.
Q. Why are you spoilering the books but not the show?
A. The books have had quite the hiatus between volumes. Also, the events of the books have been playing out differently for a while, and ever since Season 5 of the show ended it's been going even further. They are effectively 2 separate entities. That being said, the show is currently ongoing and will attract a large volume of chatter, so spoilering the show plotpoints leaves the entire thread nothing but spoiler buttons. If you are a book reader that doesn't want to proceed down the path any further, this thread may not be to your liking.
Q. Should I watch the show or read the books?
A. Depends. The show is diverging, and this last stretch may be a bit compressed in comparison to the novels. It's a different experience, as many will tell you, like the difference between a Hollywood movie and the source historical accounts. If you like the world, you'll probably end up doing both.
It's a gory, heartbreaking, nasty take at humankind at its worst, and very rarely is there happiness for all. Basically, after the first chapter/scene, you'll know what you're in for.
Alright folks, that's enough of that, now inn'it?
Coming Back for the penultimate season is HBO's Game of Thrones, a medieval fantasy hack n' slash. Despite having 2 presumably large novels left, there are only 13 episodes to cover that.
Eventually coming to stores near you, the latest novel in the series from George R.R. Martin, The Winds of Winter.
RULES FOR THE THREAD: Aside from the general rules that govern most threads, there are two specific rules set here in the Got/ASoIaF thread.
1. Open spoilers for the TV show up to the current episode. Don't leak out details for episodes that have not aired yet, and don't complain if something gets spoiled for you if you're reading this. You've been warned.
2. Closed spoilers for the books. This is big, do not openly discuss things in the books that have not happened, or that are significantly differing from the show. Again, you've been warned.
FAQ
Q. I'm new and I'd like to start watching/reading this, how can I do it?
A. HBO's online site has all of the episodes. I hear you can stream them through Amazon Prime, but it still will cost the same as an HBO NOW subscription. All five of the books are widely available and can be gotten for fairly cheap as a set ($40-50).
Q. You don't have a lot on the front page, why is that?
A. Because if you don't know much of the show, we're 6.27 seasons and 4 books deep into the series, and this series is full of huge twists you probably won't see coming. I don't want to list characters because it may end up revealing some unintentional plot points. Basically, this is a thread for people who have already been exposed to the newest stuff, or don't mind having the story spoiled.
Q. Why are you spoilering the books but not the show?
A. The books have had quite the hiatus between volumes. Also, the events of the books have been playing out differently for a while, and ever since Season 5 of the show ended it's been going even further. They are effectively 2 separate entities. That being said, the show is currently ongoing and will attract a large volume of chatter, so spoilering the show plotpoints leaves the entire thread nothing but spoiler buttons. If you are a book reader that doesn't want to proceed down the path any further, this thread may not be to your liking.
Q. Should I watch the show or read the books?
A. Depends. The show is diverging, and this last stretch may be a bit compressed in comparison to the novels. It's a different experience, as many will tell you, like the difference between a Hollywood movie and the source historical accounts. If you like the world, you'll probably end up doing both.
It's a gory, heartbreaking, nasty take at humankind at its worst, and very rarely is there happiness for all. Basically, after the first chapter/scene, you'll know what you're in for.
Alright folks, that's enough of that, now inn'it?
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But the end of this last episode surprised me. I did expect Euron to go after Yara's fleet. It would have been nice to witness a proper naval battle between the Greyjoys, since that's their thing. But no. Instead we get to watch the Sand Snakes die the same way they lived: useless and pointless. And who cares about Ellaria Sand? She's going to be Euron's big.gift to Cersei? Bitch please. I bet we get to watch Ellaria being tortured and raped for no reason, just because the showrunners have to remind us that Cersei and her allies are Super Evil.
Ellaria poisoned Myrcella. Now, Cersei is about to be delivered Ellaria along with Ellaria's daughter. Lannister, debts, etc. I would imagine Tyene is going to bear the worst of it, with Ellaria forced to bear witness.
I like the way you phrased that, because you're spot on. At that moment, he'd clearly stopped being Theon and reverted back to Reek.
Perhaps that's true. But it was the best choice he could have made.
Future possible plot point regarding Arya
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i liked dany tyrion and varys rapping about jon snow and loyalty, including mad queen tid bit. including prince that was promised with the valyrian word being genderless. iirc, aemon says the word is dragon and dragons have no sex, but same difference. fun stuff
jaime is trying so hard to keep shit together but he feels kinda wasted
dickon joke was alright
sam continues to be the best, in all his scenes. that surgery scene...
bastilas/scorpions killing dragons is a bit of a hint towards how aegon the conquerors sister/wife died. and why dorne was never conquered at first
guess were seeing casterly rock? weve never seen it in the books
the missandei/grey worm scene was butt city. just good butts all around
im so glad hot pie is a surviror yes you are my boy this scene was excellent
arya acts exactly how the hound would. i hope hound and arya cross paths atleast one more time
jon pls just kill littlefinger just do it man
sansa queen in da norf was righteous
nymeria reunion is dope since arya already killed the freys
foreign invasion was cringe
fight was okay, but oddly shot so all the action felt super small. wish they had atleast one long cut fight scene
euron just murders okay sure we could use some murders. did they recast the sandsnake who did topless last season? long hair girl?
theon in book 5 is probably my favorite chapters (tied with davos book 5) but i really dont see the point of him anymore, just be traumatized? idk
Now not being under siege and Casterly Rock being under attack, Cersei likely flies into a rage and attacks Casterly Rock, probably wounding/killing a dragon in the process given her fun ballista toy. If that dragon is too far north near a white walker, that could be bad. But Casterly Rock isn't that far up I don't think.
If pincered and wounded and down a dragon, they may run into issues with the white walkers. I'm still 50/50 on if anyone actually survives this or if the white walkers kill all the main characters and the screen goes white, George RR Martin walks out, points directly into the camera and say "Global Warming!" and then walks off, cue credits in silence over white void.
Like will they have one ballista, or 50? The dude seemed to imply everyone strained themselves to make that one.
It'll be not-very-easy to hit a moving target with a heavy piece of furniture that you can't aim around as fast as you'd probably like to.
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
i think the sand snake in question just grew her hair out
But what is dead, may never die... Hmm
Arya
Nope.
Convenient. For him.
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Arya
Let's not discount that Tyrion knows that sacking the family home and real seat of power (however empty the mines may be) will be like a kick in the junk to his Sister. Having the local armies lay siege to King's Landing, while sending the "barbarian savages" to fuck up the homestead will throw Cersei into a fit. And she'll be almost powerless to stop it since she and Jaime will both be pinned down in the Capital. Angry, off tilt Cersei, will likely make mistakes in her rage. Mistakes that Tyrion/Dany can then exploit.
Personally my hope is that they fire it at the dragon add it just bounces off. I had such high hopes for a dracolichwhen they showed those skulls
Even leaving book knowledge aside, Casterly Rock is Cersei's only real refuge. If King's Landing falls, she falls. Without Casterly Rock she has nowhere to flee to and regroup. Her only option should she survive is to cross the Narrow Sea and set up a court in exile. It's going to be bloody difficult for her to drum up support for her war when she's already lost her family's ancestral seat, never mind if she ends up getting chased out of Westeros altogether.
Let's not forget that losing your seat of power during a war was such a big deal that Stannis was willing to starve to death with his wife and his men rather than relinquish Storm's End to the Tyrells during Rober's rebellion.
It sort of ties in with Tywin's conversation with Arya about Harrenhall being impenetrable, but was quickly sacked and destroyed by Aerys and his troop of dragons.
Interesting we may actually see the Lannister homestead.
I was set to be very upset with the show if they would've allowed Theon to just "snap out of it."
You don't snap out of trauma like that. You usually don't ever go back to your old self.
If they have him overcome his fears and traumas and do some heroic thing later on in the series without some serious contextual justification, like maybe he's decided to die instead of live with himself, I'm going to probably be pissing rage for a week.
Let us hope that serious contextual justification does not end up being his sister getting tortured and killed.
Law and Order ≠ Justice
Yara's probably dead, but we'll likely get a conversation between Yara and Euron. How else are we going to flesh out Euron as a character without that interaction?
Judging by what we saw of Euron, and by the source material, it's probably going to be pretty goddamned awful.
That tentacle running down the back of the blade is so perfectly done; I want it on my wall.
And I'm not a put-things-on-walls kind of person!
Cersei is totally going to have the mountain do heinous things to Ellaria's daughter in front of Ellaria.
did anything happen after arya's dire wolf walked off? my dvr cut the ep short
The Direwolf killed Cersei and is now the Queen on the Iron Throne.
Best ruler they've had in a while to be honest.
No, all the wolves left.
My read on it was that the wolf recognized her but the bond wasn't there anymore. Still time for that to change.
Just Ghost?
But you don't mention anything about Hot Pie's rampage? The way he cut his way through those Lannister soldiers with just a kitchen knife in one hand and a cleaver in the other...
Just chills down the spine. To say nothing of that ululating scream of rage as he did that thing with the hambone...
Turns out, you don't insult Hot Pie's hot pies to his face. He takes that shit seriously, and the Lannisters aren't the only ones who pay their debts.
TBF Tyrion was going based on estimates of forces from before Euron opened a gateway to the longships dimension - in such an event, going for both Casterly Rock and KL at the same time is a great idea because Cersei literally has nowhere to go
edit: beaten by a mile
Do they think it will confuse people or is it just too cool?
I'm pretty sure it was "No, that's not you..."
Both to herself and Nymeria, realizing that both of them have changed to the point where fitting into their old life isn't going to be easy, if it's possible at all.