I think Leman Russ is almost certainly coming back as well. The fluff has rumors about the 13th legion reappearing from the Eye of Terror. I think The Lion will be next, especially with the Dark Angels codex just releasing, and then Russ, maybe before the Spaces Wolves codex next year.
My bet is that Russ is the next loyal Primarch getting released and that he's coming alongside the Space Wolf codex.
I mean, that's probably not a safe bet but I have the feeling that he's more likely to be next than the Dark Angels Primarch.
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The only "confirmed" dead primarchs are Horus, Kurze, Sanguinius, & Ferrus Manus.
At least those are the ones that they would have the hardest time bringing back. Everybody else kind of fucked off to do their own thing.
Also re: primaris replacing minimarines - in the Dark Imperium novel Guilliman just kind of flat out says minimarines are a dying breed.
Fabius Bile made a bunch of Horus clones, one of those could still be alive. Kurze never had a confirmed kill, but that would be a pretty dumb one to walk back. Sanguinius is Space Jesus so him coming back wouldn’t be that bad and has an out in the Sanguinor. Ferrus Manus is deader than dead for sure though.
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All the Horus clones lacked his soul though, because his soul was destroyed by the emperor. He was basically erased from existence.
Lion been chilling in the middle of the rock since...well at least whatever edition the double feature angels of death codex was for blood angels codex
Heck, Sanguinius’ body is just hanging out in stasis on Baal. They could stuff his soul back in there anytime and he’s good to go. Though I guess he’d have to get a big goofy suit of Cawl armor like Guilliman with robo-wings to haul it around.
Khan, Corax, Lion, Russ, Vulkan, they’re all just missing and ready to go anytime. Stitch Ferrus’s severed head to all the little remnants of Dorn floating in space and you could maybe make one more Primarch from the bits.
I hope this is the year of sex,drugs, and rock n' roll. Come on GW let's get our party on.
If Slaanesh gets a decent update there's a very good chance that I might properly start a Chaos army.
Which means I'm excited but that my wallet is also crying very loudly.
Things we know:
1)Fulgrim is awake and currently probably top of the list for the next Chaos Primarch
2)Emp's Children Line is due for a big update
3)Slaanesh daemons are finally getting neat rules in Age of Sigmar so maybe that will help
I want my primarch and I want them to burn all the fucking finecast molds to the ground and finally update my chaos line like they did for Death Guard and 1k Sons.
The only two I don't want to come back are Horus and Sanguinus. Their deaths seem to important to undo, at least for now. If they come back then the Big E is probably not far behind.
Manus loved tech, I bet his chapter has a way to bring him back. But his death was also important, so he can stay dead imo.
Alpharius and Omegaon, well how can you even be sure either died?
Kruz was never confirmed.
I'd loved to see one or two Primarchs switch sides, personally.
So my newb self got his TSons heads caved in by a buddy playing Blood Angels. He must've had half his army waiting to drop in on me and 3d6 charging fools who can't be Overwatched hurt. I had no real chance (because I am newb and I am bad, admittedly).
Also rolled like crap when it came to psyker powers.
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The only two I don't want to come back are Horus and Sanguinus. Their deaths seem to important to undo, at least for now. If they come back then the Big E is probably not far behind.
Manus loved tech, I bet his chapter has a way to bring him back. But his death was also important, so he can stay dead imo.
Alpharius and Omegaon, well how can you even be sure either died?
Kruz was never confirmed.
I'd loved to see one or two Primarchs switch sides, personally.
So what we have been told through community stuff and such.
Sanguinus, Horus, and Kruze are confirmed KIA.
Manus is also confirmed but they were more mum on it.
One primarch from each side will swap. So one Chaos primarch is actually loyal and one loyal primarch is actually corrupt.
We know also:
1)The Lion is healed and alive in stasis under the DA HQ.
2)Fulgrim is awake and spoke to Guilliman taunting him after his resurrection
3)Russ is also alive, maybe a full on wulfen now.
4)Angron was banished but with the warp going nuts could come back.
We don't know where Perturabo of the Iron Legion is. Dorn technically is MIA. Alpha Legion is well who knows at this point, we are all Alpharius. Lorgar is around and kind of kicking it with the dark gods.
Also clones, Bile has cloned Horus once, who says he can't clone another primarch.
So my newb self got his TSons heads caved in by a buddy playing Blood Angels. He must've had half his army waiting to drop in on me and 3d6 charging fools who can't be Overwatched hurt. I had no real chance (because I am newb and I am bad, admittedly).
Also rolled like crap when it came to psyker powers.
BA codex just dropped.
Is mean as all get out with the whole +1 to wound rolls thing.
And has a lot of tools to get in your face fast.
1k Sons are pretty expensive and underpowered right now and need a lot of support they won't get till their codex drops I feel.
The only two I don't want to come back are Horus and Sanguinus. Their deaths seem to important to undo, at least for now. If they come back then the Big E is probably not far behind.
Manus loved tech, I bet his chapter has a way to bring him back. But his death was also important, so he can stay dead imo.
Alpharius and Omegaon, well how can you even be sure either died?
Kruz was never confirmed.
I'd loved to see one or two Primarchs switch sides, personally.
So what we have been told through community stuff and such.
Sanguinus, Horus, and Kruze are confirmed KIA.
Manus is also confirmed but they were more mum on it.
One primarch from each side will swap. So one Chaos primarch is actually loyal and one loyal primarch is actually corrupt.
We know also:
1)The Lion is healed and alive in stasis under the DA HQ.
2)Fulgrim is awake and spoke to Guilliman taunting him after his resurrection
3)Russ is also alive, maybe a full on wulfen now.
4)Angron was banished but with the warp going nuts could come back.
We don't know where Perturabo of the Iron Legion is. Dorn technically is MIA. Alpha Legion is well who knows at this point, we are all Alpharius. Lorgar is around and kind of kicking it with the dark gods.
Also clones, Bile has cloned Horus once, who says he can't clone another primarch.
*cough* Dorn *cough*
Where's the two primarchs will swap stuff coming from?
The only two I don't want to come back are Horus and Sanguinus. Their deaths seem to important to undo, at least for now. If they come back then the Big E is probably not far behind.
Manus loved tech, I bet his chapter has a way to bring him back. But his death was also important, so he can stay dead imo.
Alpharius and Omegaon, well how can you even be sure either died?
Kruz was never confirmed.
I'd loved to see one or two Primarchs switch sides, personally.
So what we have been told through community stuff and such.
Sanguinus, Horus, and Kruze are confirmed KIA.
Manus is also confirmed but they were more mum on it.
One primarch from each side will swap. So one Chaos primarch is actually loyal and one loyal primarch is actually corrupt.
We know also:
1)The Lion is healed and alive in stasis under the DA HQ.
2)Fulgrim is awake and spoke to Guilliman taunting him after his resurrection
3)Russ is also alive, maybe a full on wulfen now.
4)Angron was banished but with the warp going nuts could come back.
We don't know where Perturabo of the Iron Legion is. Dorn technically is MIA. Alpha Legion is well who knows at this point, we are all Alpharius. Lorgar is around and kind of kicking it with the dark gods.
Also clones, Bile has cloned Horus once, who says he can't clone another primarch.
*cough* Dorn *cough*
Where's the two primarchs will swap stuff coming from?
The only two I don't want to come back are Horus and Sanguinus. Their deaths seem to important to undo, at least for now. If they come back then the Big E is probably not far behind.
Manus loved tech, I bet his chapter has a way to bring him back. But his death was also important, so he can stay dead imo.
Alpharius and Omegaon, well how can you even be sure either died?
Kruz was never confirmed.
I'd loved to see one or two Primarchs switch sides, personally.
So what we have been told through community stuff and such.
Sanguinus, Horus, and Kruze are confirmed KIA.
Manus is also confirmed but they were more mum on it.
One primarch from each side will swap. So one Chaos primarch is actually loyal and one loyal primarch is actually corrupt.
We know also:
1)The Lion is healed and alive in stasis under the DA HQ.
2)Fulgrim is awake and spoke to Guilliman taunting him after his resurrection
3)Russ is also alive, maybe a full on wulfen now.
4)Angron was banished but with the warp going nuts could come back.
We don't know where Perturabo of the Iron Legion is. Dorn technically is MIA. Alpha Legion is well who knows at this point, we are all Alpharius. Lorgar is around and kind of kicking it with the dark gods.
Also clones, Bile has cloned Horus once, who says he can't clone another primarch.
*cough* Dorn *cough*
Where's the two primarchs will swap stuff coming from?
A prophecy or something. I would have to ask my 40k club.
I hope this is the year of sex,drugs, and rock n' roll. Come on GW let's get our party on.
If Slaanesh gets a decent update there's a very good chance that I might properly start a Chaos army.
Which means I'm excited but that my wallet is also crying very loudly.
Things we know:
1)Fulgrim is awake and currently probably top of the list for the next Chaos Primarch
2)Emp's Children Line is due for a big update
3)Slaanesh daemons are finally getting neat rules in Age of Sigmar so maybe that will help
I want my primarch and I want them to burn all the fucking finecast molds to the ground and finally update my chaos line like they did for Death Guard and 1k Sons.
Man you know i’m right there with you but if you don’t think we’re behind Angron and a Khorne/World Eaters redo, you are a much more optimistic person than I am.
In other news I hope everyone had a great Xmas!
Anyone get any good loot?
Any chance they're going to bring back the two unnamed primarchs in any way?
I mean, it seems like the season for big changes, I can't think of a much bigger change to the status quo then finding out where the two forgotten primarchs have been hanging out for the past few thousand years.
I hope this is the year of sex,drugs, and rock n' roll. Come on GW let's get our party on.
If Slaanesh gets a decent update there's a very good chance that I might properly start a Chaos army.
Which means I'm excited but that my wallet is also crying very loudly.
Things we know:
1)Fulgrim is awake and currently probably top of the list for the next Chaos Primarch
2)Emp's Children Line is due for a big update
3)Slaanesh daemons are finally getting neat rules in Age of Sigmar so maybe that will help
I want my primarch and I want them to burn all the fucking finecast molds to the ground and finally update my chaos line like they did for Death Guard and 1k Sons.
Man you know i’m right there with you but if you don’t think we’re behind Angron and a Khorne/World Eaters redo, you are a much more optimistic person than I am.
In other news I hope everyone had a great Xmas!
Anyone get any good loot?
I got a kindle fire which is to let me watch stuff while painting.
I don't think Angron is up. They have been pointing towards Fulgrim in the fluff way more than Angron. Plus Angron is basically a giant big bad Bloodthirster. More fun to have Fulgrim in his huge snake form glory.
So far we have Magnus/Space Wolves and Guilliman/Moratorian.
Fulgrim/Russ or Fulgrim/Lion would make a good amount of sense I think. The first as they come out of the warp fighting. The second with EC joining together to hit the DA Fortress world where the Lion is sleeping.
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I gifted myself Mortarion, a 2nd Plagueburst Crawler, 7 more plague marines, nurglings, and a daemon prince
The only "confirmed" dead primarchs are Horus, Kurze, Sanguinius, & Ferrus Manus.
At least those are the ones that they would have the hardest time bringing back. Everybody else kind of fucked off to do their own thing.
Also re: primaris replacing minimarines - in the Dark Imperium novel Guilliman just kind of flat out says minimarines are a dying breed.
The devestation of baal book points to that as well. Even before baal was nearly wiped clean by the tyranids they were having harder and harder time making new space marines and the blood rage issues were getting harder and worse over time. Some of the blood angels were somewhat upset at the thought of primaris being basically ultramarines in red armor but not only does the primaris treatment not have or at least greatly mitigate the downsides of the various chapters geneseeds but they seem to be able to use it on a larger range of candidates even ones who previously were found to be to borderline to survive the treatment or in other ways non viable candidates.
I have to imagine the primaris are probably closer to what the emperor intended in the first place. I can't imagine he wanted the various defects that plagued the various gene seed lines.
The only "confirmed" dead primarchs are Horus, Kurze, Sanguinius, & Ferrus Manus.
At least those are the ones that they would have the hardest time bringing back. Everybody else kind of fucked off to do their own thing.
Also re: primaris replacing minimarines - in the Dark Imperium novel Guilliman just kind of flat out says minimarines are a dying breed.
The devestation of baal book points to that as well. Even before baal was nearly wiped clean by the tyranids they were having harder and harder time making new space marines and the blood rage issues were getting harder and worse over time. Some of the blood angels were somewhat upset at the thought of primaris being basically ultramarines in red armor but not only does the primaris treatment not have or at least greatly mitigate the downsides of the various chapters geneseeds but they seem to be able to use it on a larger range of candidates even ones who previously were found to be to borderline to survive the treatment or in other ways non viable candidates.
I have to imagine the primaris are probably closer to what the emperor intended in the first place. I can't imagine he wanted the various defects that plagued the various gene seed lines.
Yeah, the fact that these men are so loyal to a man who would completely hate them and cast them aside is both sad and hilarious.
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Alpharius switching sides would make them Chaos. But them officially going loyalist would be the easiest jump since they're generally the least mutated legion.
My guess would be loyalist Alpharius and traitor Lion, based on nothing whatsoever other than the fact that both of those things are basically already true.
Traitor Lion leading a more fleshed out Fallen army would be pretty great.
And the Alpha Legion would never just suddenly do a full on good guy switch, but they could work by assisting the Imperium from the shadows. After all, Alpharius and his Legion just vanished to the galaxy’s underground. Today, still wanted by the Imperium, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire... the A-Team."
If Sanguinius ever does come back, I could see him having fallen to Khorne.
I kind of want that to happen just to see how the fanbase would react.
I want the Daemon Prince Russ thing that got released to be true.
Chaos Wolves for all!
The Space Wolves are already mutants/tolerate mutation in their ranks and have a really over the top love of murdering other astartes.
With their title as Reigning Standout Hypocrites of the Galaxy, you'd think the other loyalists would've adopted a 100% side-eye approach with the old wolfy-wolves.
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I think the Dark Angels are probably less trusted than the Space Wolves, as far as astartes are concerned.
A large number of Space Wolves, ya know- the guys who threw a blood orgy on another chapter's homeworld, are straight up mutants. Just... werewolves. And they are SUPER non-codex.
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My bet is that Russ is the next loyal Primarch getting released and that he's coming alongside the Space Wolf codex.
I mean, that's probably not a safe bet but I have the feeling that he's more likely to be next than the Dark Angels Primarch.
At least those are the ones that they would have the hardest time bringing back. Everybody else kind of fucked off to do their own thing.
Also re: primaris replacing minimarines - in the Dark Imperium novel Guilliman just kind of flat out says minimarines are a dying breed.
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Well it is in line with the iron hands dogma
I still say the novel where he died
But I am an Alpha Marine fanboy, so.
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Khan, Corax, Lion, Russ, Vulkan, they’re all just missing and ready to go anytime. Stitch Ferrus’s severed head to all the little remnants of Dorn floating in space and you could maybe make one more Primarch from the bits.
Also pictures of the new great unclean one are on the community page.
I hope this is the year of sex,drugs, and rock n' roll. Come on GW let's get our party on.
If Slaanesh gets a decent update there's a very good chance that I might properly start a Chaos army.
Which means I'm excited but that my wallet is also crying very loudly.
Things we know:
1)Fulgrim is awake and currently probably top of the list for the next Chaos Primarch
2)Emp's Children Line is due for a big update
3)Slaanesh daemons are finally getting neat rules in Age of Sigmar so maybe that will help
I want my primarch and I want them to burn all the fucking finecast molds to the ground and finally update my chaos line like they did for Death Guard and 1k Sons.
Manus loved tech, I bet his chapter has a way to bring him back. But his death was also important, so he can stay dead imo.
Alpharius and Omegaon, well how can you even be sure either died?
Kruz was never confirmed.
I'd loved to see one or two Primarchs switch sides, personally.
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So my newb self got his TSons heads caved in by a buddy playing Blood Angels. He must've had half his army waiting to drop in on me and 3d6 charging fools who can't be Overwatched hurt. I had no real chance (because I am newb and I am bad, admittedly).
Also rolled like crap when it came to psyker powers.
PSN: Bizazedo
CFN: Bizazedo (I don't think I suck, add me).
So what we have been told through community stuff and such.
Sanguinus, Horus, and Kruze are confirmed KIA.
Manus is also confirmed but they were more mum on it.
One primarch from each side will swap. So one Chaos primarch is actually loyal and one loyal primarch is actually corrupt.
We know also:
1)The Lion is healed and alive in stasis under the DA HQ.
2)Fulgrim is awake and spoke to Guilliman taunting him after his resurrection
3)Russ is also alive, maybe a full on wulfen now.
4)Angron was banished but with the warp going nuts could come back.
We don't know where Perturabo of the Iron Legion is. Dorn technically is MIA. Alpha Legion is well who knows at this point, we are all Alpharius. Lorgar is around and kind of kicking it with the dark gods.
Also clones, Bile has cloned Horus once, who says he can't clone another primarch.
*cough* Dorn *cough*
BA codex just dropped.
Is mean as all get out with the whole +1 to wound rolls thing.
And has a lot of tools to get in your face fast.
1k Sons are pretty expensive and underpowered right now and need a lot of support they won't get till their codex drops I feel.
Where's the two primarchs will swap stuff coming from?
A prophecy or something. I would have to ask my 40k club.
Man you know i’m right there with you but if you don’t think we’re behind Angron and a Khorne/World Eaters redo, you are a much more optimistic person than I am.
In other news I hope everyone had a great Xmas!
Anyone get any good loot?
I mean, it seems like the season for big changes, I can't think of a much bigger change to the status quo then finding out where the two forgotten primarchs have been hanging out for the past few thousand years.
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CFN: Bizazedo (I don't think I suck, add me).
I got a kindle fire which is to let me watch stuff while painting.
I don't think Angron is up. They have been pointing towards Fulgrim in the fluff way more than Angron. Plus Angron is basically a giant big bad Bloodthirster. More fun to have Fulgrim in his huge snake form glory.
So far we have Magnus/Space Wolves and Guilliman/Moratorian.
Fulgrim/Russ or Fulgrim/Lion would make a good amount of sense I think. The first as they come out of the warp fighting. The second with EC joining together to hit the DA Fortress world where the Lion is sleeping.
That gets me to 2000
The devestation of baal book points to that as well. Even before baal was nearly wiped clean by the tyranids they were having harder and harder time making new space marines and the blood rage issues were getting harder and worse over time. Some of the blood angels were somewhat upset at the thought of primaris being basically ultramarines in red armor but not only does the primaris treatment not have or at least greatly mitigate the downsides of the various chapters geneseeds but they seem to be able to use it on a larger range of candidates even ones who previously were found to be to borderline to survive the treatment or in other ways non viable candidates.
I have to imagine the primaris are probably closer to what the emperor intended in the first place. I can't imagine he wanted the various defects that plagued the various gene seed lines.
I believe even in their first codex they mention him being alive in stasis but say when he is needed again he will awaken.
Yeah, the fact that these men are so loyal to a man who would completely hate them and cast them aside is both sad and hilarious.
I kind of want that to happen just to see how the fanbase would react.
I want the Daemon Prince Russ thing that got released to be true.
Chaos Wolves for all!
Almost too obvious.
My guess would be loyalist Alpharius and traitor Lion, based on nothing whatsoever other than the fact that both of those things are basically already true.
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And the Alpha Legion would never just suddenly do a full on good guy switch, but they could work by assisting the Imperium from the shadows. After all, Alpharius and his Legion just vanished to the galaxy’s underground. Today, still wanted by the Imperium, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire... the A-Team."
... let me tell you about Dark Angels.
It's been like eight years! What the fuck, Dan Abnett?
Seriously having a hard time remembering all these characters.
Now fork over Ravenor v. Eisenhorn 2. Double... uh... octuple time!
You mean you haven't reread all 13 books or whatever every time a new release date for warmaster was announced?
PFFT.
(The book was awesome, he needs a faster turn around for the next!)
The Space Wolves are already mutants/tolerate mutation in their ranks and have a really over the top love of murdering other astartes.
With their title as Reigning Standout Hypocrites of the Galaxy, you'd think the other loyalists would've adopted a 100% side-eye approach with the old wolfy-wolves.
Some of the Dark Angels went renegade/chaos?
A large number of Space Wolves, ya know- the guys who threw a blood orgy on another chapter's homeworld, are straight up mutants. Just... werewolves. And they are SUPER non-codex.
Good lookin out there, astartes.