So the backstory of 616 Miles Morales got revealed
He's Kingpin's secret BFF who has been his second in command for years and years
Miles did the crime family that Fisk worked for before Kingpin Times a favor by covering for his cousin and doing a stay in jail, Fisk was sent to protect him. Miles ended up saving Fisk's life,
And getting scarred in the process, and they become BFFs.
After Fisk goes full Kingpin he grants Miles' one wish: go completely off the books. Wiped clean from every system, every record, just a clean slate so that he doesn't have to worry about the past. He's still a crime Lord down in Florida, but he expunged his past.
Lame as hell, IMO
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So the backstory of 616 Miles Morales got revealed
He's Kingpin's secret BFF who has been his second in command for years and years
Miles did the crime family that Fisk worked for before Kingpin Times a favor by covering for his cousin and doing a stay in jail, Fisk was sent to protect him. Miles ended up saving Fisk's life,
And getting scarred in the process, and they become BFFs.
After Fisk goes full Kingpin he grants Miles' one wish: go completely off the books. Wiped clean from every system, every record, just a clean slate so that he doesn't have to worry about the past. He's still a crime Lord down in Florida, but he expunged his past.
Bendis had this written down as the sequel for a really cool and awesome story so yeah.... What happened?? It's been 5 years and he never tried making it not boring?
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Bendis had this written down as the sequel for a really cool and awesome story so yeah.... What happened?? It's been 5 years and he never tried making it not boring?
At some point he seems to have absolutely stopped trying.
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I think there is an argument to be made that the man burned out. He writes 4 to 6 ongoing at a time and is the architect of a couple major events. He's been going nonstop for a decade.
The same thing happens with Johns at dc. His stories were getting lame and formative. He was smart/ lucky enough to have a opportunity to take a break and go focus on movies and tv shows for a while, and when he did come back to comics it was rebirth and he was able.to get the creative juices going again .
And now he's writing doomsday clock which on paper is the worst fucking idea but people are excited and it's probably going to be really good!
Bendis had this written down as the sequel for a really cool and awesome story so yeah.... What happened?? It's been 5 years and he never tried making it not boring?
He must have lost the last page of his notes. The one that said "Oh yeah, make it not suck dude".
I mean, its not like the original Spider-Men was a great story itself.
It was good because it was finally the meeting of 616 Spidey and Ultimate Spidey, but apart from the Peter/Aunt May scene (Which is a hell of a scene) everything else is just there.
So the backstory of 616 Miles Morales got revealed
He's Kingpin's secret BFF who has been his second in command for years and years
Miles did the crime family that Fisk worked for before Kingpin Times a favor by covering for his cousin and doing a stay in jail, Fisk was sent to protect him. Miles ended up saving Fisk's life,
And getting scarred in the process, and they become BFFs.
After Fisk goes full Kingpin he grants Miles' one wish: go completely off the books. Wiped clean from every system, every record, just a clean slate so that he doesn't have to worry about the past. He's still a crime Lord down in Florida, but he expunged his past.
Lame as hell, IMO
I actually liked it. It's not the most original story, but I thought it was well executed.
Miles of the 616 is shown to be very similar to normal Miles, only having gone down a different path. He's still loyal and brave, shown both by him taking the fall for someone else, ratting himself out to Fisk that he had accepted a hit to kill Fisk before he met Fisk, and throughout the story of his background shows the same characteristics as young Miles. He's a villain, but one that still cares about his loved ones, and forms bonds to reflect that.
He still has some issues with promoting himself (such as during his date where Fisk has to talk him up, which is very similar to Miles and Ganke's friendship), and also the questioning at times of what he is doing. Hence his disappearing,
(though not fully leaving the crime game).
This reflects the same issues Miles is dealing with in Spider-Man. He's been afraid for a long time that he will slip into the same mindset or behavior that lead to his uncle becoming the Prowler or his father's life of crime before settling down. He can feel the frustration, fear, and anger towards the villains boiling up at times, and is scared he could give into those desires and become the same villains he fights. That's what the arc with him fighting Hammerhead was about, where he gave into his rage for what HammerHead did to Bombshell and beat the fuck out of him, but hesitating in finishing him off. His rash actions lead to Goldballs having to leap into action again to save him, and triggered the PTSD that Goldballs is most likely suffering, causing him to flee. Miles is battling what it means to be Spider-Man (and the consequences therein), and who he is within that framework, so having a villain that is him in personality and behavior, but flipped onto the otherside of the ailse, is an interesting way for him to reflect what he could be, and choose what he wants to be.
Having Peter in the story as the mentor figure who has went through similar struggles helps give a balance to the story. I think it would work better if it was directly integrated into their books instead of being a mini-series, so people don't have to read the side book that is affecting the main book.
On a completely different note, I do think they are ending USAvengers:
The most recent issue had Sunspot resign from leadership of AIM after Secret Empire and the US government wanting to pull AIM directly under their control and make Sunspot their tool to do so. Toni Ho then is voted leader of AIM by AIM scientists due to her actions and speech during Secret Empire, while Sunspot is now working with Smasher to save Cannonball.
Holy christ this preview of next week's Infamous Iron Man
I'm cool with Mephisto cracking jokes sometimes because I like a smarmy Satan but this is like 6 bridges too far
I am baffled because I constantly see writers and comics folks I like say IIM is one of their favorite books right now but everything I read of it and have seen of it looks like garbage
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Holy christ this preview of next week's Infamous Iron Man
I'm cool with Mephisto cracking jokes sometimes because I like a smarmy Satan but this is like 6 bridges too far
I am baffled because I constantly see writers and comics folks I like say IIM is one of their favorite books right now but everything I read of it and have seen of it looks like garbage
Am I missing something? Is the issue he is talking too much?
Holy christ this preview of next week's Infamous Iron Man
I'm cool with Mephisto cracking jokes sometimes because I like a smarmy Satan but this is like 6 bridges too far
I am baffled because I constantly see writers and comics folks I like say IIM is one of their favorite books right now but everything I read of it and have seen of it looks like garbage
Am I missing something? Is the issue he is talking too much?
More like “This character would never talk like this outside of this one particular writer”.
I'M NOT FINISHED WITH YOU!!!
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That's part of it-I'd say using the same background in all those shots is quite shit.
mephisto has at least as often been a 'high level administrator of the damned' type of thing in the marvel cosmology as he has been a major villain, so that doesn't bother me too much
those pages certainly do belabor the point though
it was the smallest on the list but
Pluto was a planet and I'll never forget
I always find it weird where they have at least some fairly concrete evidence of a literal heaven and hell that villains are still villains. Like what is your long term goal there when your endgame is spending eternity in hell?
The only other outright pop culture reference I can think of Mephisto making is when he came to pick up Magma on a date in New Mutants and said "Allow me to introduce myself, I'm a man of wealth and taste.
...no? Not even a chuckle? Tough room."
And that's about as far as I would possibly go with that
Not literally freezing the action and breaking the fourth wall to complain to the audience about his plan and reference the dead mobster that inspired Goodfellas.
It's ridiculously self indulgent and is hyper lazy writing that just lets Bendis write 2 pages of nothing but 35 dialogue bubbles. For comparison, here's a random page from All-New Guardians of the Galaxy, my current favorite Marvel book:
Obviously different writers and comics have different styles, but since it is also a comedy heavy book, as all of Bendis' work tends to be, it provides a nice contrast.
I honestly can't think of a thing less suited to comics than those pages. It's literally frozen action while a character looks at the "camera" and monologues for 2 pages. Comics are about blending art and writing to make a stronger story than either would be separately. If you're just writing a comic where the artist is drawing still figures for 2 pages that you can cover up with 35 balloons of dialogue then you should just be writing in a different medium at that point.
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Hi hello. Currently working a con. First as a guest. And they had us walk onto a stage under spotlight on us as Professor McGonagall announced us.
Nipped the whole imposter syndrome I had going before right in the bud that did.
Also one of the other comic artists at the after party told me Russ Meyer yelled at him about being a pervert for doing comics in a porno rag. So best con on that alone.
Not sure why I'm tagging @Rorshach Kringle but it feels like I have to.
And yeah they are stealing from the most secure private bank in the universe, for The Collector, so the plan was fake a Galactus incursion to make everyone immediately freak the fuck out and evacuate and swoop in during the chaos
It's sort of nuts that Gerry Duggan's like stealthily become the head of Marvel Cosmic, and he was clearly setting that up for a while with the whole Ultron Virus thing showing up in both UA and Deadpool
It's sort of nuts that Gerry Duggan's like stealthily become the head of Marvel Cosmic, and he was clearly setting that up for a while with the whole Ultron Virus thing showing up in both UA and Deadpool
He's also just really really good at working the long plan, and it seems like he is being given the clearance to actually pull it off.
Right now we have, as GotG plots:
The rise of the Raptors
The Gardener's downward spiral and plan
The formation of the new Nova Corps
The Ultron Virus
The Elders of the Universe being taken out one by one
The collection of the Infinity Stones and the restoration of Gamora
And
Loki pulling the strings to at least 3 of these
I am loving it because we so rarely get long runs where creators can establish and then pay off on a ton of plot points nowadays
It's sort of nuts that Gerry Duggan's like stealthily become the head of Marvel Cosmic, and he was clearly setting that up for a while with the whole Ultron Virus thing showing up in both UA and Deadpool
To be fair, Al Ewing's been doing the real heavy lifting with Marvel Cosmic ever since Secret Wars ended.
I always find it weird where they have at least some fairly concrete evidence of a literal heaven and hell that villains are still villains. Like what is your long term goal there when your endgame is spending eternity in hell?
Either
A) Become powerful enough to escape whichever Hell you end up in, because it happens.
or Become powerful enough that you instead become useful to whichever deity reigns in the hell you end up in.
It's sort of nuts that Gerry Duggan's like stealthily become the head of Marvel Cosmic, and he was clearly setting that up for a while with the whole Ultron Virus thing showing up in both UA and Deadpool
To be fair, Al Ewing's been doing the real heavy lifting with Marvel Cosmic ever since Secret Wars ended.
I would say they are doing different corners of Cosmic
Ewing has been trading in the top level Aspects of Reality level shit in Ultimates. Like, there is a team of sentient universes in that book!
Duggan is working the more small scale cosmic stuff like the Nova Corps and not going beyond the Elders of the Universe (which are small fries compared to the shit Ewing is doing) and whatnot.
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Holy christ this preview of next week's Infamous Iron Man
I'm cool with Mephisto cracking jokes sometimes because I like a smarmy Satan but this is like 6 bridges too far
I am baffled because I constantly see writers and comics folks I like say IIM is one of their favorite books right now but everything I read of it and have seen of it looks like garbage
Given that Mephisto is supposed to be silenced, as per Infinity Finale, I'm not sure how he's talking at all.
Holy christ this preview of next week's Infamous Iron Man
I'm cool with Mephisto cracking jokes sometimes because I like a smarmy Satan but this is like 6 bridges too far
I am baffled because I constantly see writers and comics folks I like say IIM is one of their favorite books right now but everything I read of it and have seen of it looks like garbage
Given that Mephisto is supposed to be silenced, as per Infinity Finale, I'm not sure how he's talking at all.
Has any of Starlin's OGN stuff been referenced in other comics? It seems like he might as well be doing Elseworlds
Holy christ this preview of next week's Infamous Iron Man
I'm cool with Mephisto cracking jokes sometimes because I like a smarmy Satan but this is like 6 bridges too far
I am baffled because I constantly see writers and comics folks I like say IIM is one of their favorite books right now but everything I read of it and have seen of it looks like garbage
Given that Mephisto is supposed to be silenced, as per Infinity Finale, I'm not sure how he's talking at all.
Has any of Starlin's OGN stuff been referenced in other comics? It seems like he might as well be doing Elseworlds
It was referenced twice in Ewings stuff
One mention about Thanos (or an aspect of Thanos) having finally gotten together with Death, and one mention about the existence of a new Living Tribunal, though on the latter I suppose they could just be a Living Tribunal created by the recreation of the Universe rather than Alt-U Adam Warlock w/ the a collapsed universe inside of him.
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No it's just poor wording.
It's saying that, as opposed to the IMAX movie, the complete series will begin airing.
Miles did the crime family that Fisk worked for before Kingpin Times a favor by covering for his cousin and doing a stay in jail, Fisk was sent to protect him. Miles ended up saving Fisk's life,
And getting scarred in the process, and they become BFFs.
After Fisk goes full Kingpin he grants Miles' one wish: go completely off the books. Wiped clean from every system, every record, just a clean slate so that he doesn't have to worry about the past. He's still a crime Lord down in Florida, but he expunged his past.
Lame as hell, IMO
Modern day Brian Michael Bendis everyone
At some point he seems to have absolutely stopped trying.
The same thing happens with Johns at dc. His stories were getting lame and formative. He was smart/ lucky enough to have a opportunity to take a break and go focus on movies and tv shows for a while, and when he did come back to comics it was rebirth and he was able.to get the creative juices going again .
And now he's writing doomsday clock which on paper is the worst fucking idea but people are excited and it's probably going to be really good!
He must have lost the last page of his notes. The one that said "Oh yeah, make it not suck dude".
It was good because it was finally the meeting of 616 Spidey and Ultimate Spidey, but apart from the Peter/Aunt May scene (Which is a hell of a scene) everything else is just there.
I actually liked it. It's not the most original story, but I thought it was well executed.
He still has some issues with promoting himself (such as during his date where Fisk has to talk him up, which is very similar to Miles and Ganke's friendship), and also the questioning at times of what he is doing. Hence his disappearing,
(though not fully leaving the crime game).
This reflects the same issues Miles is dealing with in Spider-Man. He's been afraid for a long time that he will slip into the same mindset or behavior that lead to his uncle becoming the Prowler or his father's life of crime before settling down. He can feel the frustration, fear, and anger towards the villains boiling up at times, and is scared he could give into those desires and become the same villains he fights. That's what the arc with him fighting Hammerhead was about, where he gave into his rage for what HammerHead did to Bombshell and beat the fuck out of him, but hesitating in finishing him off. His rash actions lead to Goldballs having to leap into action again to save him, and triggered the PTSD that Goldballs is most likely suffering, causing him to flee. Miles is battling what it means to be Spider-Man (and the consequences therein), and who he is within that framework, so having a villain that is him in personality and behavior, but flipped onto the otherside of the ailse, is an interesting way for him to reflect what he could be, and choose what he wants to be.
Having Peter in the story as the mentor figure who has went through similar struggles helps give a balance to the story. I think it would work better if it was directly integrated into their books instead of being a mini-series, so people don't have to read the side book that is affecting the main book.
On a completely different note, I do think they are ending USAvengers:
I'm cool with Mephisto cracking jokes sometimes because I like a smarmy Satan but this is like 6 bridges too far
I am baffled because I constantly see writers and comics folks I like say IIM is one of their favorite books right now but everything I read of it and have seen of it looks like garbage
Am I missing something? Is the issue he is talking too much?
More like “This character would never talk like this outside of this one particular writer”.
Monthly deadlines for artists are fucking hard.
those pages certainly do belabor the point though
Pluto was a planet and I'll never forget
like holy shit he's beyond parody
it'd be like Rob Liefeld literally drawing a character who is a sentient footless pile of pouches with muscles and tits
It's a literal freeze frame.
Nipped the whole imposter syndrome I had going before right in the bud that did.
The only other outright pop culture reference I can think of Mephisto making is when he came to pick up Magma on a date in New Mutants and said "Allow me to introduce myself, I'm a man of wealth and taste.
...no? Not even a chuckle? Tough room."
And that's about as far as I would possibly go with that
Not literally freezing the action and breaking the fourth wall to complain to the audience about his plan and reference the dead mobster that inspired Goodfellas.
It's ridiculously self indulgent and is hyper lazy writing that just lets Bendis write 2 pages of nothing but 35 dialogue bubbles. For comparison, here's a random page from All-New Guardians of the Galaxy, my current favorite Marvel book:
Obviously different writers and comics have different styles, but since it is also a comedy heavy book, as all of Bendis' work tends to be, it provides a nice contrast.
I honestly can't think of a thing less suited to comics than those pages. It's literally frozen action while a character looks at the "camera" and monologues for 2 pages. Comics are about blending art and writing to make a stronger story than either would be separately. If you're just writing a comic where the artist is drawing still figures for 2 pages that you can cover up with 35 balloons of dialogue then you should just be writing in a different medium at that point.
Also one of the other comic artists at the after party told me Russ Meyer yelled at him about being a pervert for doing comics in a porno rag. So best con on that alone.
Not sure why I'm tagging @Rorshach Kringle but it feels like I have to.
That is wonderful
And yeah they are stealing from the most secure private bank in the universe, for The Collector, so the plan was fake a Galactus incursion to make everyone immediately freak the fuck out and evacuate and swoop in during the chaos
"I make art. Not pornography" was the choice quote from that story.
Right now we have, as GotG plots:
The rise of the Raptors
The Gardener's downward spiral and plan
The formation of the new Nova Corps
The Ultron Virus
The Elders of the Universe being taken out one by one
The collection of the Infinity Stones and the restoration of Gamora
And
I am loving it because we so rarely get long runs where creators can establish and then pay off on a ton of plot points nowadays
To be fair, Al Ewing's been doing the real heavy lifting with Marvel Cosmic ever since Secret Wars ended.
Either
A) Become powerful enough to escape whichever Hell you end up in, because it happens.
or
Ewing has been trading in the top level Aspects of Reality level shit in Ultimates. Like, there is a team of sentient universes in that book!
Duggan is working the more small scale cosmic stuff like the Nova Corps and not going beyond the Elders of the Universe (which are small fries compared to the shit Ewing is doing) and whatnot.
hate you
Given that Mephisto is supposed to be silenced, as per Infinity Finale, I'm not sure how he's talking at all.
It was referenced twice in Ewings stuff