The [Movie] Thread needs a reboot

jungleroomx

[I am at a hotel room, so this OP will be sparse]

So, I guess this more like the Robocop reboot instead of the Dredd reboot.

Anyway, it's almost the Holidays so we're gonna get a whole shitload of Big Time Kaboom Motherfucking Films and probably some sappy holiday shit, too.

Let's talk movies!

Jazz

With that subject in the OP, this is my obligatory "I liked the Robocop reboot way more than I would have ever thought possible, even if it's nowhere near the classic original" post.

TexiKen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3D2VXgGZ6c

Tis the season for Oscar Bait. I look forward to seeing how this year's contenders will be chosen, what with Hollywood deservedly falling apart, and if potted plants will even be allowed in the city anymore.

This could be the year for The Hitman's Bodyguard and John Wick 2!

Astaereth

Killing of a Sacred Deer is not as insane as The Lobster, but still super good. Some really excellent performances, strong direction creating lots of tension, and a cool story. This director has yet to let me down.

Goumindong

I super enjoyed “Wheelman” (Netflix) and I think grillo is due for some bigger roles.

The filmmaking turns what otherwise would be a pretty ho-hum thriller into something very interesting. The camera makes it like the car is almost it’s own character observing the events neutrally. I felt less like there was a protagonist (which there obviously is) and more like I was an interloper.

There are a couple of scenes which were really standout and i don’t want to talk about them before you see them because they’re done so well.

Harry Dresden

Speaking of rebooted films.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuVphAuRo7Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3L7tRQzDEQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GljhR5rk5eY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3Kq2qliOXc

DasUberEdward

Reboots until the end of hollywood. We did it.

Harry Dresden

It's amusing how Arnold starred in his own franchise's reboot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62E4FJTwSuc

Heatwave

I watched The Foreigner today.

It was alright. I expected something like Taken but with Jackie Chan and got it.

I was more grounded than the other movies I've seen him in. Here he regularly gets injured and isn't some unstoppable fighter. Yeah he usually stands victorious, but he has to walk across glass to do it.

It had it's flaws though:

Ultimately it felt like his efforts were meaningless. The police and Pierce Brosnan find the bombers on their own without Jackie Chan's help.
The police were about to take out the bombers but Chan's character got in the way. I get this was supposed to be his revenge but it didn't feel earned.

Throughout the film all he really did was harass Brosnan's character and his men. He followed one lead that led him to Brosnan and that's it. Meanwhile Brosnan was working with the Police to track down the bombers so they wouldn't fuck up his plans to get the British government to pardon his people. After the Police connect him to bombers he loses all political sway with the British Government.

The only thing Chan's character accomplishes is upload a picture of him being romantically involved with one of the bombers to tarnish his reputation. But since Brosnan didn't know she was a bomber and he wasn't actually involved at all with those guys, this doesn't even matter.

But the biggest crime this movie commits is there's no fight between Chan and Brosnan!

I was hoping for old man Jackie Chan vs old man James Bond and what I got was Bond being pistol whipped once.

Boo I say. Boo!

Harry Dresden

Tyrese feud with Johnson has taken a turn for the worst, at first I thought their beef was just a typical PR stunt.

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/entertainment/2017/11/tyrese-gibson-suffers-meltdown-says-he-ll-quit-fast-and-furious.html

Tyrese Gibson is refusing to star in the next Fast and Furious movie if Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson is in it.

The actor declared his ultimatum on Instagram as part of two lengthy posts expressing fury at his co-star for starring in a spin-off movie.

Gibson is also very upset at not being allowed to see his 10-year-old daughter Shayla and posted a highly emotional video online in which begs for help with the custody battle.

"Don't take my baby, this is all I got," Gibson says in between sobs.

"I been away from my baby for two months, I just want my baby. No one's listening... I'm at $13,000 a month, what more do you want from me?"

Gibson, who plays Roman Pearce in the high-octane action movies, has publicly pleaded with Johnson not to star in a Fast and Furious spin-off movie with increasingly desperate messages, to which his co-star has not responded, at least publicly.

He even appears to threaten Johnson's family in one of the Instagram posts and accuses him of using steroids ("juicing").

"I'm sorry to announce that if Dwayne is in Fast and Furious 9 there will no more Roman Pearce," says Gibson.

"You mess with family and my daughter's survival. I mess with yours. Close your eyes, dude, you're a clown."

AlphaRomero

If he's broke after being in all those films then I don't see how that's Johnson's problem, and the guy is seriously overestimating his importance to the franchise.

Harry Dresden

AlphaRomero wrote: »

If he's broke after being in all those films then I don't see how that's Johnson's problem, and the guy is seriously overestimating his importance to the franchise.

Not to mention that franchise is his claim to fame right now, he's not a big star and this gives him steady work. He needs to get off social media, get a low profile and see a therapist.

shryke

I do not understand the context of any of this. What is his problem with The Rock exactly?

Harry Dresden

shryke wrote: »

I do not understand the context of any of this. What is his problem with The Rock exactly?

Originally he and Ludicrous were going to get a spin-off, he turned it down since he wanted the franchise to be a "family", so the studio offered the same deal to Rock and Statham (who accepted) - and this would have delayed the next F & F movie so he'd have to wait for a new pay check, I guess.

AlphaRomero

This has been going on for ages, he seems to dislike the Rock for coming into the franchise and becoming a huge deal in it plus getting spin off films. So where once Gibson was part of a relatively level crew in terms of being reliant on this franchise for all their success, here comes this big dude who is already successful, is helping the franchise be more successful, etc. I think it's evident in that Gibson thinks he has the clout to tear the franchise down by not appearing in it, where I can't imagine anyone would care at all if they said Roman returned to his home planet.

Like I didn't even remember his name was Roman until this thread.

cckerberos

The stuff in the middle about his daughter is largely unrelated to The Rock. His ex accused him of beating their daughter and was trying to get his custody rights taken away (child services have since investigated and dismissed the accusation).

Harry Dresden

AlphaRomero wrote: »

This has been going on for ages, he seems to dislike the Rock for coming into the franchise and becoming a huge deal in it plus getting spin off films. So where once Gibson was part of a relatively level crew in terms of being reliant on this franchise for all their success, here comes this big dude who is already successful, is helping the franchise be more successful, etc. I think it's evident in that Gibson thinks he has the clout to tear the franchise down by not appearing in it, where I can't imagine anyone would care at all if they said Roman returned to his home planet.

Like I didn't even remember his name was Roman until this thread.

Roman only started to get interested in Fast Five, where he found his niche as the comedic sidekick. That said, he's definitely one of the most expendable cast members in the franchise.

Heatwave

If Roman returns to his home planet, can Dom go back in time to save Han?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLazRt8s8Wc

Xeddicus

That entire article/rant just reads "Gibson out of the F&F franchise.". Unless someone takes pity on him when he comes to his senses.

TexiKen

Gibson and Statham are the best parts of the franchise (and do their best to make up for Diesels ever growing Marty Stu-ness). The Rock is rather interchangeable now in the series. Can’t believe I’m writing this sentence but Roman is the most grounded one in the group and he’s more critical to this new iteration of the franchise than people think, Lord knows Scott Eastwood and Michelle Rodriguez can’t pick up the slack.

Sorce

Harry Dresden wrote: »

AlphaRomero wrote: »

This has been going on for ages, he seems to dislike the Rock for coming into the franchise and becoming a huge deal in it plus getting spin off films. So where once Gibson was part of a relatively level crew in terms of being reliant on this franchise for all their success, here comes this big dude who is already successful, is helping the franchise be more successful, etc. I think it's evident in that Gibson thinks he has the clout to tear the franchise down by not appearing in it, where I can't imagine anyone would care at all if they said Roman returned to his home planet.

Like I didn't even remember his name was Roman until this thread.

Roman only started to get interested in Fast Five, where he found his niche as the comedic sidekick. That said, he's definitely one of the most expendable cast members in the franchise.

Roman only works at this point as some kind of comedic butt monkey, which (to me) means he's the most disposable. I'm not necessarily a fan of The Rock in these movies either, but I'd rather have him than Tyrese at this point.

The franchise needs a replacement for Brian (and Han to a lesser extent), and quick. Hopefully Eastwood's kid can fill the niche, but I doubt it.

Grislo

Throwaway line about his needing to go do something back home at the start of the next movie, but his cousin is here to help. Enter Chris Tucker, Everybody cheers. Movie goes on as if nothing had happened. Problem solved.

TychoCelchuuu

Y'all are way out of date, it's been resolved already.

DasUberEdward

Speaking of comedic butts. Everything about the new Jumanji looks great except for Kevin Hart. I cannot stand him but I love The Rock and i'm just so dang conflicted about this movie.

ElJeffe

I caught the trailer for Jumanji before Thor and it actually looked entertaining. I was kind of shocked. I'm still not sold, but if the reviews come out favorable, I'll throw some money at it.

flamebroiledchicken

Astaereth wrote: »

Killing of a Sacred Deer is not as insane as The Lobster, but still super good. Some really excellent performances, strong direction creating lots of tension, and a cool story. This director has yet to let me down.

That reminds me I need to re-watch Dogtooth, as I only ever saw the first third or so. It was on my October watch list but I decided it probably wasn't "horror" enough. The little bit I saw reminded me of the Ray Bradbury story "Jack in the Box". I really like stories like that, where the protagonist is raised in some sort of alternative, fraudulent version of reality.

Bogart

Murder on ze Orient Express is only ok. Lovely furnishings, excellent moustache, fun scene-chewing, but not up to the original.

Almost everything they seem to have added to the story to modernise it falls flat. The smattering of action feels misjudged, the denouement is not as precise as it needs to be in explaining the crime, and I think they were constrained by the original in that they didn’t want to shoot things the same way, so the actual murder, when seen in flashback, isn’t a patch on the way they showed it in the original.

Still, I’ll happily take an all star Agatha Christie whodunnit every couple of years as a bit of light relief.

DasUberEdward

Bogart wrote: »

Murder on ze Orient Express is only ok. Lovely furnishings, excellent moustache, fun scene-chewing, but not up to the original.

Almost everything they seem to have added to the story to modernise it falls flat. The smattering of action feels misjudged, the denouement is not as precise as it needs to be in explaining the crime, and I think they were constrained by the original in that they didn’t want to shoot things the same way, so the actual murder, when seen in flashback, isn’t a patch on the way they showed it in the original.

Still, I’ll happily take an all star Agatha Christie whodunnit every couple of years as a bit of light relief.

Is it going to be a franchise?

Bogart

Anything successful is made into a ruddy franchise these days. I imagine they’d make more if this one sells, and a couple of lines at the end blatantly set up another famous whodunnit.

Mikey CTS

Will those movies still feature Kenneth Branagh with that amazing mustache?

IF yes then would see more.

DasUberEdward

Bogart wrote: »

Anything successful is made into a ruddy franchise these days. I imagine they’d make more if this one sells, and a couple of lines at the end blatantly set up another famous whodunnit.

I'm fine with that. Really more mysteries with good source material sounds excellent even if they aren't phenomenal.

Bogart

I would imagine so. It’s at its best when it leans into the crowded, isolated compartments of the train, and most enjoyable when Branagh really lets rip with his accent. When it’s trying to give him a hint of tragic backstory or find a way to include someone doing a spin kick it dies.

Astaereth

flamebroiledchicken wrote: »

Astaereth wrote: »

Killing of a Sacred Deer is not as insane as The Lobster, but still super good. Some really excellent performances, strong direction creating lots of tension, and a cool story. This director has yet to let me down.

That reminds me I need to re-watch Dogtooth, as I only ever saw the first third or so. It was on my October watch list but I decided it probably wasn't "horror" enough. The little bit I saw reminded me of the Ray Bradbury story "Jack in the Box". I really like stories like that, where the protagonist is raised in some sort of alternative, fraudulent version of reality.

Yeah Dogtooth is pretty neat.

So far I’d rank them The Lobster, Killing, then Dogtooth, but they’re all good movies. He’s excellent at coming up with weird ideas that are totally conceptual rather than visual.

tynic

Bogart wrote: »

Murder on ze Orient Express is only ok. Lovely furnishings, excellent moustache, fun scene-chewing, but not up to the original.

Almost everything they seem to have added to the story to modernise it falls flat. The smattering of action feels misjudged, the denouement is not as precise as it needs to be in explaining the crime, and I think they were constrained by the original in that they didn’t want to shoot things the same way, so the actual murder, when seen in flashback, isn’t a patch on the way they showed it in the original.

Still, I’ll happily take an all star Agatha Christie whodunnit every couple of years as a bit of light relief.

Wait, which original? The 74, or one of the telemovies?

Bogart

The Finney one. The TV movie with David Suchet is decent but the Finney one is excellent.

tynic

Bogart wrote: »

The Finney one. The TV movie with David Suchet is decent but the Finney one is excellent.

yeah that one is hard to top.

Jazz

Paddington was on the telly tonight. That is still one of the most delightful movies in recent history.

I'm really looking forward to Paddington 2, although I know nothing about it; frankly they had me at its very existence.

TexiKen

Paddington, Tommy Boy, and London Has Fallen might be the most watched movies on my Netflix account to date

Rami

Yeah I watched Paddington again and it really is just about perfect.

I think I may be one of the few who hasn't read or seen a version of Murder on the Orient Express, so I'm quite looking forward to seeing the new version.

tynic

Amazon keeps throwing up Paddington at me without telling me what it's about, and i've avoided finding out because I strongly suspect it's not gonna be the Peruvian bear.

Rami

tynic wrote: »

Amazon keeps throwing up Paddington at me without telling me what it's about, and i've avoided finding out because I strongly suspect it's not gonna be the Peruvian bear.

It's definitely the bear. Is he not on the cover?