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[WoW Classic] Launching on August 27th.

RoeRoe Registered User regular
edited May 14 in MMO Extravaganza

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Remember those days back in 2004? They're back.

Gone are the silly notions of heroic dungeons, non cookie-cutter talents, heirlooms, and ret paladins. Blizzard is bringing back Vanilla in a legal manor.



No more are the days of overcrowded Nostalrius with the chance of getting your account banned. In with the days of paying to play original content all over again.


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At an unknown date, Blizzard is launching World of Warcraft Classic. This is great for those of you who already quit, or just can't stand the direction WoW went in past their favorite content. Be prepared... for long queue times.


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At Blizzcon 2018, Blizzard is giving everyone at the show a chance to demo WoW Classic as well as everyone who has a virtual ticket watching at home.

The beta/demo will have a level 15 character and class of your choice. Playable are the zones of Westfall for Alliance and Barrens for Horde, PVP will be duels only.

Just like those at the show, players will be playing the demo on a short time only. Blizzard will have another beta for everyone at home at an unknown date without a time limit.

World of Warcraft Classic will launch August 27th 2019.

Go to their new WoW Classic website and sign up for Beta. Beta goes live on the 15th of May.

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  • ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited December 2017
    I kind of like the idea of going back to simpler times when the world was much smaller and all the zones were still in play. But playing the actual vanilla build of the game is another story, I think that's going to feel really rough. It sounds like the tech infrastructure of the game will be new but all the gameplay systems will be old, tedium intact. I'm nostalgic for the old days but I don't think I have the stomach for that.

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  • PriscaPrisca Registered User regular
    I'd be interested in Vanilla just to experience the raiding scene properly, especially Naxxramas.

  • BrainleechBrainleech Registered User regular
    Zek wrote: »
    I kind of like the idea of going back to simpler times when the world was much smaller and all the zones were still in play. But playing the actual vanilla build of the game is another story, I think that's going to feel really rough. It sounds like the tech infrastructure of the game will be new but all the gameplay systems will be old, tedium intact. I'm nostalgic for the old days but I don't think I have the stomach for that.

    I kind of want a vanilla perfected
    Some of the talent trees were a mess or not fully touched at all
    I want the updated character models from at least Cata or better. There are a bunch of quality of life things that have come in the history of wow that would have improved the fun of vanilla back then

    But we really know nothing of what blizzard is planning for it or in what state will they bring it out in from then.

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    Zek wrote: »
    I kind of like the idea of going back to simpler times when the world was much smaller and all the zones were still in play. But playing the actual vanilla build of the game is another story, I think that's going to feel really rough. It sounds like the tech infrastructure of the game will be new but all the gameplay systems will be old, tedium intact. I'm nostalgic for the old days but I don't think I have the stomach for that.

    I think the world is going to enlarge, not shrink. Flying contracted the world massively, especially with modern draw distances. When you can actually see the hard boundaries between zones where biomes meet and change unnaturally, it becomes far less immersive.

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  • HenroidHenroid Radio Demon Internet HellRegistered User regular
    Roe wrote: »
    Be prepared... for long queue times.
    So tempted to link the WoW Queue Dance but it's Flash based and who knows if that shit is safe anymore.

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  • Kai_SanKai_San Commonly known as Klineshrike! Registered User regular
    edited December 2017
    woops wrong wow thread -_-

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  • RoeRoe Registered User regular
    I'm saving my Christmas present from my sister for when the Classic servers launch. She gifted me a 2 month game card and I don't want to spend it on current gen WoW.

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  • BrainleechBrainleech Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    Roe wrote: »
    I'm saving my Christmas present from my sister for when the Classic servers launch. She gifted me a 2 month game card and I don't want to spend it on current gen WoW.

    That is one of the many questions I have as I really don't see them charging the current subscriber rate for vanilla

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    Roe wrote: »
    I'm saving my Christmas present from my sister for when the Classic servers launch. She gifted me a 2 month game card and I don't want to spend it on current gen WoW.

    You're aware you could waiting as long as 2019? Nor do we know anything about how we'll even pay for it.

    Brainleech3clipse
  • Dalton24Dalton24 Registered User new member
    I’m most looking forward to it because as much as I love wow the current game is just to big. For some it must be amazing to log in and have so much to do everyday. But for me I feel like I can never complete something or even if I do there’s still so much left undone. Look forward to just the simple raiding / dungeons.

  • EnigmedicEnigmedic Registered User regular
    Not entirely sure if this is the best place for it, but here we go...

    I was bored this weekend and decided to play through the wc3 campaigns again, and I am like 100x more pumped for classic servers than I was before. Playing through just felt very warcraft to me, and I think that is something that got lost along the way. Not that current wow is a shit game or anything, it just isnt quite warcraft anymore.

    I know really nothing will be that new when I play classic, but I just cant wait to dive back into that world again. And who knows, i could end up playing a class I only dabbled in the first time around and that would be a whole new learning experience since it’s so far removed from today.

    At this point im basically praying there will be some good news about classic by the time i get bored with monster hunter which comes out on friday. Wc3 is so much fun and i havent even done the expansion campaign yet which is my favorite (playable murlocs and naga ftw). Im like a whole nutha level of hype right now.

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  • HenroidHenroid Radio Demon Internet HellRegistered User regular
    I just realized, what patch are they going to use for this? If it's pre-Windfury Weapon nerf I will be pleased. It wasn't a real nerf during Vanilla, they just removed the animation and audio effect at one point. You used to watch your character swing fast and hear the CLUNKCLUNKCLUNK of your mace. I kinda miss that.

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  • BartholamueBartholamue Registered User regular
    We won't know until they give us more information.

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  • furlionfurlion Riskbreaker Lea MondeRegistered User regular
    They may not even know yet. There are probably thousands of such little decisions that need to be made.

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  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. Registered User regular
    i've enjoyed basically every wow classic thread since blizzcon just sort of go "Uhmm...so...anyone have something to talk about? How about...do we know what patch it'll be on yet? No? Okay...."

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    I kind of wish they'd give us some sort of timeline.

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  • EnigmedicEnigmedic Registered User regular
    honestly anything that they say other than "beta starts X" will be met with a total shitstorm. They announce which patch, everyone on each side of the argument will just vomit hate all over each other and blizz. And that will go for almost every decision they could make from the number of servers, server cap, progression vs static, graphic update toggle vs any variation of it, and just whatever else people are making suggestions for.

    Personally I'm fine with "close enough" to vanilla. Graphics wont bother me one way or another. Patch doesnt matter too much to me. Just no cross realm and phasing and it should be fine. I also dont want them to put in a dungeon finder either, but if they did id be fine so long as it doesnt port people into the dungeons. I think having to experience the world for good and bad was an important part of the vanilla experience, even more so on a pvp server. I just hope the community somewhat balances the pvp servers or it will just be boring for one side and too frustrating for the other.

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  • SkeithSkeith Registered User regular
    Enigmedic wrote: »
    honestly anything that they say other than "beta starts X" will be met with a total shitstorm. They announce which patch, everyone on each side of the argument will just vomit hate all over each other and blizz. And that will go for almost every decision they could make from the number of servers, server cap, progression vs static, graphic update toggle vs any variation of it, and just whatever else people are making suggestions for.

    Personally I'm fine with "close enough" to vanilla. Graphics wont bother me one way or another. Patch doesnt matter too much to me. Just no cross realm and phasing and it should be fine. I also dont want them to put in a dungeon finder either, but if they did id be fine so long as it doesnt port people into the dungeons. I think having to experience the world for good and bad was an important part of the vanilla experience, even more so on a pvp server. I just hope the community somewhat balances the pvp servers or it will just be boring for one side and too frustrating for the other.

    I do like that the Will of the Forsaken nerf is an option to check when you unsub after all these years.

    mts wrote: »
    heres how i see it being a total win situation for you
    1. stay with your wife while she dog sits. this wins husband points since she knows its out of your comfort zone
    2. have sex all over her friends house so that the next time you see her friend look at you condescendingly, you can wink back knowing you did the freaky deaky where she eats her cheerios.
  • 3clipse3clipse I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    Heroic Argus down, whee!

    Except like 3 people just left for RL reasons so now we have to recruit people to start Mythic, QQ life is hard in video games.

    I mean, I'd take Nick Offerman's spikey cat dick willingly
  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. Registered User regular
    i don't think they're adding Argus to classic tho

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  • 3clipse3clipse I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    listen you.

    I mean, I'd take Nick Offerman's spikey cat dick willingly
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  • OricalmOricalm MDRegistered User regular
    Enigmedic wrote: »
    honestly anything that they say other than "beta starts X" will be met with a total shitstorm. They announce which patch, everyone on each side of the argument will just vomit hate all over each other and blizz. And that will go for almost every decision they could make from the number of servers, server cap, progression vs static, graphic update toggle vs any variation of it, and just whatever else people are making suggestions for.

    Personally I'm fine with "close enough" to vanilla. Graphics wont bother me one way or another. Patch doesnt matter too much to me. Just no cross realm and phasing and it should be fine. I also dont want them to put in a dungeon finder either, but if they did id be fine so long as it doesnt port people into the dungeons. I think having to experience the world for good and bad was an important part of the vanilla experience, even more so on a pvp server. I just hope the community somewhat balances the pvp servers or it will just be boring for one side and too frustrating for the other.

    I'd be fine with the what, late vanilla or early BC era dungeon finder I think it was? Where you could "queue" for dungeons but all it really did was put you on a list where people could browse/see who wanted to run stuff, but you still had to actually /w and talk to the person/invite them and get to the dungeon. I'd really rather not go back to the LFG channel method, though having that in addition to the tool wouldn't be terrible.

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  • EnigmedicEnigmedic Registered User regular
    Oricalm wrote: »
    Enigmedic wrote: »
    honestly anything that they say other than "beta starts X" will be met with a total shitstorm. They announce which patch, everyone on each side of the argument will just vomit hate all over each other and blizz. And that will go for almost every decision they could make from the number of servers, server cap, progression vs static, graphic update toggle vs any variation of it, and just whatever else people are making suggestions for.

    Personally I'm fine with "close enough" to vanilla. Graphics wont bother me one way or another. Patch doesnt matter too much to me. Just no cross realm and phasing and it should be fine. I also dont want them to put in a dungeon finder either, but if they did id be fine so long as it doesnt port people into the dungeons. I think having to experience the world for good and bad was an important part of the vanilla experience, even more so on a pvp server. I just hope the community somewhat balances the pvp servers or it will just be boring for one side and too frustrating for the other.

    I'd be fine with the what, late vanilla or early BC era dungeon finder I think it was? Where you could "queue" for dungeons but all it really did was put you on a list where people could browse/see who wanted to run stuff, but you still had to actually /w and talk to the person/invite them and get to the dungeon. I'd really rather not go back to the LFG channel method, though having that in addition to the tool wouldn't be terrible.

    Yeah the meeting stone activated lfg thing wasnt used much but i guess was useful to some people. It really was a logistical marvel when you had 3 people in 3 different zones in your level range posting in each zone chat that they were looking lfm for whichever dungeon. People loved my warlock summons lol.

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  • StericaSterica Wow! That was shit.Registered User, Moderator mod
    One big question is how much will it cost. Will it be bundled with a normal WoW sub? Probably not, as this is Activision so you can expect a standalone sub fee that gets a small discount if you're also playing modern WoW. Shit, you may have to repurchase WoW to play Classic. We simply don't know yet, and Activision is greedy enough to try it.

    I think it will have a decent opening from curiousity, but quickly shrink as people realize that Vanilla isn't that great, especially since it's effectively a dead-end for new content. From there it will have a smaller, dedicated community, but I think people don't realize how much of a factor the whole "free" thing is when it came to the population numbers for private servers.

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  • EnigmedicEnigmedic Registered User regular
    Cost will definitely matter, but I almost think they will just put it under the umbrella of a regular sub, especially if they are trying to make everything for it run on their modern infrastructure. I could possibly see having a classic only sub be a little cheaper than a regular sub, with the option to "upgrade". I think the goal is mainly to get back older customers they have lost that arent into the new stuff, while also giving newer players something to do during content lulls. So one sub granting both can keep people playing both for longer.

    I think if they made people buy classic wow their servers would be hit by an unprecedented and sustained amount of ddos and other attacks, not to mention the internet would explode. I dont think they could from a PR perspective.

    I definitely agree it will have a massive number of people try it out initially, which will be kind of funny because it will mirror the original launch in lag and unplayability. I see people make the private servers are free argument a lot, but the flip side is also that a lot of people don't want to risk downloading some bad shit onto their computers by dealing with private server stuff. For instance, I think they are too shady to mess with, and too easy to slip something malicious into, so I've never done it. But I would pay to play on official servers in a heartbeat. Time will only tell where the numbers on both sides stand.

    I still just think vanilla and retail wow are good games just for completely different reasons. I think the target demographic is a bit different, and certainly cater to different playstyles. I think there still will be some overlap of the playerbase, but I also don't think it will shrink nearly as much as people say it will. Though that will depend how they decide to roll it out.

    I could easily see it running pretty well for at least a couple years. I see people kind of falling into the regular grind, then people will get bored and start alts, then repeat everything. Then as a community a bunch of people will probably organize a mass rerolling of the opposite faction to shake things up again. After that it will probably be more in blizzard's court as to whether they want to try out an alternate continuum content release for vanilla, maybe do a TBC upgrade (doubtful), or something else altogether.

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  • Curly_BraceCurly_Brace Robot Girl Mimiga VillageRegistered User regular
    I'm definitely the sort who would prefer a "Classic only" subscription at a discounted rate; after all, if their goal is to attract old players who don't like newer content it hardly makes sense to force them to pay for said new content.

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  • ZekZek Registered User regular
    I had assumed it was just going to be tied to the regular monthly subscription. May or may not involve a purchase of the Classic game client, but I doubt it. The target demographic here are the people who aren't currently interested in playing modern WoW, so it's enough just to get them paying the monthly fee again.

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    I expect them to both be on the same monthly sub, probably with a one-time purchase for the vanilla 'box.'

    the price of an mmo sub seems to be pretty inelastic: people who're willing to pay anything are willing to pay 15 bucks but they're not willing to pay much more, which is why that's been the price for basically every subscription game. Doesn't seem to really make sense to charge a sub for each if most players will only pick one.

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  • BrainleechBrainleech Registered User regular
    Charging 15 a month for vanilla seems steep
    With the lukewarm reception BfA is getting I would not be surprised if they bundle it in with it

  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. Registered User regular
    I'm definitely the sort who would prefer a "Classic only" subscription at a discounted rate; after all, if their goal is to attract old players who don't like newer content it hardly makes sense to force them to pay for said new content.

    Yeah but consider this: What if psychologically speaking it's easier for the consumer to justify also buying regular world of warcraft once they're paying a sub for it.

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  • CorriganXCorriganX Registered User regular
    They could do something like $7 a month if you dont have a wow sub, its included if you do have a wow sub. Might get people to pay a bit more for the regular one and give them more numbers to show off in reports.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Are blizzard actively courting vanilla players or just establishing an alternative to the illegal pirate servers? I can not see blizzard charging less for anything let alone their bread and butter wow.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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  • Bliss 101Bliss 101 Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    Are blizzard actively courting vanilla players or just establishing an alternative to the illegal pirate servers? I can not see blizzard charging less for anything let alone their bread and butter wow.

    Pretty sure it's the latter. They want to protect their IP without generating too much negative publicity.

    I'm still extremely surprised that they are doing this though.

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    Including vanilla with regular sub (or including regular wow with a vanilla sub, depending on your point of view) even if only for a limited time, is a fantastic way for blizzard to get existing players to try vanilla, and for vanilla players to try modern wow. You'll get players for both that otherwise might not have done so.

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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    If it wasn’t Blizzard, I could see them making it free actually.

  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    Javen wrote: »
    If it wasn’t Blizzard, I could see them making it free actually.

    That doesn't help them get players into modern WoW, which is a goal that makes a lot of sense. If people pay the same cost and get both, and you're a long time ex-player who comes back for Classic you might as well spend an afternoon poking around on modern WoW at one point or another.

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  • RanlinRanlin Oh gosh Registered User regular
    edited February 2018
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    Javen wrote: »
    If it wasn’t Blizzard, I could see them making it free actually.

    That doesn't help them get players into modern WoW, which is a goal that makes a lot of sense. If people pay the same cost and get both, and you're a long time ex-player who comes back for Classic you might as well spend an afternoon poking around on modern WoW at one point or another.

    This is what I think is most likely to be their decision.

    edit: man I found a real awkward way to say that didn't I

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  • PailryderPailryder Registered User regular
    free for "limited" is pretty standard marketing. free vanilla, upgrade to current wow for a 3 month subs or something could get a large number of people to come back.

  • PriscaPrisca Registered User regular
    Would be nice to see a release this year, but I'm sure it's very unlikely with BoA.

  • BrainleechBrainleech Registered User regular
    Prisca wrote: »
    Would be nice to see a release this year, but I'm sure it's very unlikely with BoA.

    BoA is shaping up to be a dud like cata it seems so it would not surprise me if they bundle it in or release it in a desperation move the road

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