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    cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    I think this shit is hilarious and is going to fall flat on its fucking face immediately

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    MaximumMaximum Registered User regular
    Ilpala wrote: »
    Somehow the tone of that conference led me to believe Vince will not be very accepting of self-expression from his employees.

    They won't be his employees. He'll go the WWE route and make all the players independent contractors.

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    JarsJars Registered User regular
    okay so

    how exactly is it possible for this to succeed? all I can think of is supplant the NCAA by paying college level athletes which isn't a bad idea

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    MarathonMarathon Registered User regular
    We already had NFL Europe for people who wanted to watch less talented people play football at a sub NFL level.

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    IlpalaIlpala Just this guy, y'know TexasRegistered User regular
    Maximum wrote: »
    Ilpala wrote: »
    Somehow the tone of that conference led me to believe Vince will not be very accepting of self-expression from his employees.

    They won't be his employees. He'll go the WWE route and make all the players independent contractors.

    I guess I don't appreciate the difference. If he won't allow them to protest through action, why would he allow them to protest through attire?

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    ObiFettObiFett Use the Force As You WishRegistered User regular
    Jars wrote: »
    okay so

    how exactly is it possible for this to succeed? all I can think of is supplant the NCAA by paying college level athletes which isn't a bad idea

    Streaming markets. NFL is kind of stuck on who and what can stream their products due to contracts with TV. The XFL could jump right in with Amazon or Hulu or whatever and start showing football to people who don't have cable.
    One of the reasons McMahon thinks he will be able to succeed 19 years after the league first failed is because, he said, television ratings no longer dictate success.

    "To me the landscape has changed in so many different ways," McMahon said. "Just look at technology and companies like Facebook and Amazon bidding for sports rights. Even if ratings go down, there's no denying that live sports rights continue to be valuable and continue to deliver."

    One of the ways McMahon envisions enticing major media partners is to offer them something the NFL hasn't: more creative feeds of the same game.

    "I don't think people want to see the same thing when they're streaming as they see on television," McMahon said. "That's boring. I think fans want it shot in a totally different way, and I think there's an immersive opportunity that's more interactive to the game."

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    Zombie HeroZombie Hero Registered User regular
    Looks like my hopes for an entire robot/remote-controlled football league are dashed yet again.

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    cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    ObiFett wrote: »
    Jars wrote: »
    okay so

    how exactly is it possible for this to succeed? all I can think of is supplant the NCAA by paying college level athletes which isn't a bad idea

    Streaming markets. NFL is kind of stuck on who and what can stream their products due to contracts with TV. The XFL could jump right in with Amazon or Hulu or whatever and start showing football to people who don't have cable.
    One of the reasons McMahon thinks he will be able to succeed 19 years after the league first failed is because, he said, television ratings no longer dictate success.

    "To me the landscape has changed in so many different ways," McMahon said. "Just look at technology and companies like Facebook and Amazon bidding for sports rights. Even if ratings go down, there's no denying that live sports rights continue to be valuable and continue to deliver."

    One of the ways McMahon envisions enticing major media partners is to offer them something the NFL hasn't: more creative feeds of the same game.

    "I don't think people want to see the same thing when they're streaming as they see on television," McMahon said. "That's boring. I think fans want it shot in a totally different way, and I think there's an immersive opportunity that's more interactive to the game."

    I just don't think the market will be there at the end of the day. It will be bad football, and as much as Fox news wants there to be a huge, huge market of people who are pissed about kneeling football players, this will be years away from that and it's insane that he's bringing it up.

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    MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
    My hope is for them to make every review done by the fans watching. Just an option pops up on the screen you're watching on and you make the decision. This will fix everything.

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    admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Magell wrote: »
    My hope is for them to make every review done by the fans watching. Just an option pops up on the screen you're watching on and you make the decision. This will fix everything.

    An American Idol vote for "is this a catch?"

    I like it.

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    MaximumMaximum Registered User regular
    "Is he concussed?"

    Y/N

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    David_TDavid_T A fashion yes-man is no good to me. Copenhagen, DenmarkRegistered User regular
    "Was that a football move?"

    Just keeps popping up. During the preshow, half time, commercials...

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    NiryaNirya Registered User regular
    Jars wrote: »
    okay so

    how exactly is it possible for this to succeed? all I can think of is supplant the NCAA by paying college level athletes which isn't a bad idea

    Even that will have a low chance of success because the vast majority of high school players and their families will choose the stability of the NCAA instead of taking a chance with the XFL for the 3 years our of high school that they need.

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    3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    Maximum wrote: »
    "Is he concussed?"

    Y/N

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    even if he's not playing

    especially if he's not playing

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    cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    I love the idea that the man who runs the WWE is somehow going to make football safer

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    H3KnucklesH3Knuckles But we decide which is right and which is an illusion.Registered User regular
    One thing that could help the XFL this time is the huge money maker that fantasy football has become. If they build from the ground up to be super friendly towards that market and they can really woo some of those folks, it could lead to some success. I would imagine cheaper/easier to get tickets, easier to stream, and short to watch might hit a sweet spot, especially in time when only baseball is being played.

    I don't see how any of this would matter? Who wants to play fantasy football with a smaller pool of inferior players?

    It seems to me that anything they try in terms of broadcasting/attendance that seems successful, the NFL can copy, combining it with the many other advantages they already have over a new league. Hell, it's almost in the NFL's interest to create a minor league like this just to be able to tinker with the formula with less at stake.

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    MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
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    H3KnucklesH3Knuckles But we decide which is right and which is an illusion.Registered User regular
    I think whoever suggested earlier that McMahon should make a small kayfabe football league had the right idea. Make all the players trained stuntmen and all the "hard hits" fake to sidestep CTE concerns. Script personalities and seasonal storylines. People getting sick of the Patriots-equivalent? Time to write in a new recurring champion.

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    admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    H3Knuckles wrote: »
    I think whoever suggested earlier that McMahon should make a small kayfabe football league had the right idea. Make all the players trained stuntmen and all the "hard hits" fake to sidestep CTE concerns. Script personalities and seasonal storylines. People getting sick of the Patriots-equivalent? Time to write in a new recurring champion.

    Staged football sounds both incredible and impossible.

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    MarathonMarathon Registered User regular
    admanb wrote: »
    H3Knuckles wrote: »
    I think whoever suggested earlier that McMahon should make a small kayfabe football league had the right idea. Make all the players trained stuntmen and all the "hard hits" fake to sidestep CTE concerns. Script personalities and seasonal storylines. People getting sick of the Patriots-equivalent? Time to write in a new recurring champion.

    Staged football sounds both incredible and impossible.

    You say that until you watch a blitzing linebacker hit a scrambling QB with a Stone Cold Stunner.

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    admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Marathon wrote: »
    admanb wrote: »
    H3Knuckles wrote: »
    I think whoever suggested earlier that McMahon should make a small kayfabe football league had the right idea. Make all the players trained stuntmen and all the "hard hits" fake to sidestep CTE concerns. Script personalities and seasonal storylines. People getting sick of the Patriots-equivalent? Time to write in a new recurring champion.

    Staged football sounds both incredible and impossible.

    You say that until you watch a blitzing linebacker hit a scrambling QB with a Stone Cold Stunner.

    That's the incredible part.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
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    Pellaeon wrote: »
    All I remember about the XFL is no fair catches on punts. I'm pretty sure the original business plan was just a single piece of paper that said

    1) no fair catches
    2) ????
    3) profit!

    But I'm sure this time it will be different!

    Hey, we got the sweet air camera out of the debacle.

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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Players will all wear those big sumo costumes

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    UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    There's got to be some way to combine football and those bubble suits

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    mcpmcp Registered User regular
    Dudes will all wear lingerie.

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    A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    Dinosaur suit football!

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    SorceSorce Not ThereRegistered User regular
    So what's the likelihood he'll actually follow through with the "we don't want criminals playing for us" statement?

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    PellaeonPellaeon Registered User regular
    Sorce wrote: »
    So what's the likelihood he'll actually follow through with the "we don't want criminals playing for us" statement?

    This is all just an elaborate re-reboot of the longest yard.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Sorce wrote: »
    So what's the likelihood he'll actually follow through with the "we don't want criminals playing for us" statement?

    I'm guessing he meant to say "Felons" because if you've ever paid a speeding ticket, then you're a dastardly criminal.

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    JarsJars Registered User regular
    I'm sure streaming markets of young people are super receptive to mcmahons old white person rhetoric

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    Sweeney TomSweeney Tom Registered User regular
    Sorce wrote: »
    So what's the likelihood he'll actually follow through with the "we don't want criminals playing for us" statement?

    This thing's DOA already if Manziel is barred from the beginning

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    MaximumMaximum Registered User regular
    Burneko sums it up quite nicely, I think
    Yes. It is true that Vince McMahon already suckered some number of rich idiots, and possibly a smaller number of regular idiots, into believing that the world had an appetite for a second, shittier, Poochie-the-skateboarding-dog-ass football league, long enough for it to fail spectacularly on its baloney nominal terms and succeed spectacularly in its truer mission of making Vince McMahon somewhat more famous than he’d previously been when he returned to his primary business concern, which is selling professional wrestling to teenagers, and selling their attention to the makers of Mountain Dew Code Red so that the makers of Mountain Dew Code Red can sell Mountain Dew Code Red to teenagers. That is not a reason why the XFL will happen again. That is a reason why the XFL will not happen again.

    Don’t fall for this. Please don’t fall for it. Oh god, you’re going to, aren’t you. You’re going to gawk it into existence. You asshole.

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    The teams will be named after products.

    The Minnesota Best Buys

    The New York Chase National Banks

    The Seattle Starbucks

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    The Boston Baked Beans

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    The St. Louis Stridex Power Pads

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    The Cleveland River Fire

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    H3KnucklesH3Knuckles But we decide which is right and which is an illusion.Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
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