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[Megagame] Tis' Better to Rule in Hell - Final: Hail Mammon and their FWB Asmodeus

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    So.
    Do we call the champion combat off if we both have no prestige, Envy?
    Seems like we both don't have anything the other might want.

  • BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    Whomever got that Talisman of Greed?

    I hate you.

  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Well this is looking abyssal.
    Who's up for a nice game of roulette instead?

  • JayKaosJayKaos Registered User regular
    Clearly I was just too intimidating to face in single combat. Victory by default is the best kind of victory!

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  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    JayKaos wrote: »
    Clearly I was just too intimidating to face in single combat. Victory by default is the best kind of victory!

    One mustn't expect the champion of sloth to do multiple things...

    Your turn shall come, all in good time

  • MatevMatev Cero Miedo Registered User regular
    GOOD MORNING FIENDS OF THE PIT! Several small, but important, changes have been made to the Pseudomonarchia Demonum. I suggest you rescrutinize your tomes to ensure your understanding of the bylaws are clear

    "Go down, kick ass, and set yourselves up as gods, that's our Prime Directive!"
    Hail Hydra
  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    Let's say I'm in a really lazy house. Its not true, but if it was, can we have a summary of the things that were changed?

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Vizier stuff looks like

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    notably, viziers have 0 rank spells

  • MatevMatev Cero Miedo Registered User regular
    These aren't changes so much as clarifications of things that weren't readily apparent.

    -Legions cannot March more than once a turn.
    -Initial Turn order for the game is noted (Regency then rotates the turn order, as it has the last several turns)
    -With regards to rituals that don't involve thievery, Bodyguard Legions have a loyalty of 10.
    -Rank 0 Rituals have been implemented. They would be even better if you used them
    -If you have no prestige, you have no standing in the Infernal Conclave and cannot make diplomatic efforts.
    -Relics and Artifacts must be installed at a Legion or Place of Power to be active. Each Place of Power or Legion can have up to 1 Relic and 1 Artifact on it at a given time.

    "Go down, kick ass, and set yourselves up as gods, that's our Prime Directive!"
    Hail Hydra
  • AuralynxAuralynx Darkness is a perspective Watching the ego workRegistered User regular
    Matev wrote: »
    -If you have no prestige, you have no standing in the Infernal Conclave and cannot make diplomatic efforts.

    Except presumably to respond to those of others?

  • MatevMatev Cero Miedo Registered User regular
    Correct. Making a Diplomatic Effort is a specific action. Responding to Diplomatic efforts does not take an action and you need no standing to do so. (After all, it's not your nickel)

    "Go down, kick ass, and set yourselves up as gods, that's our Prime Directive!"
    Hail Hydra
  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    edited February 2018
    ...
    Surely houses with zero prestige can still throw insults though.
    Unless that cost prestige somehow?

    discrider on
  • MatevMatev Cero Miedo Registered User regular
    You have no prestige, why would anyone care what you have to say about them?

    "Go down, kick ass, and set yourselves up as gods, that's our Prime Directive!"
    Hail Hydra
  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    edited February 2018
    Otherwise I don't see how a zero prestige house gets off zero prestige; All the other houses could ignore them forever.

    And because ignoring an insult proves you are weak.

    discrider on
  • MatevMatev Cero Miedo Registered User regular
    For how to generate prestige, please consult the Pseudomonarchia Demonum. DIplomatic efforts are one of many ways to gain the respect of your peers in the Inferno.

    "Go down, kick ass, and set yourselves up as gods, that's our Prime Directive!"
    Hail Hydra
  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    And once all Places of Power are claimed, and someone claims your own and you're on zero prestige?

  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    I mean, it would be terribly unfortunate if soneone were to take Wrath's Places, take their Prestige and then leave them frustrated and not completing their house objectives in a box somewhere.

  • GizzyGizzy i am a cat PhoenixRegistered User regular
    Vizier!

    I command you to summon Gorden Ramsay. I believe he would make a fantastic addition to our Hell's Kitchen.

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
  • GizzyGizzy i am a cat PhoenixRegistered User regular
    edited February 2018
    Delicious children may be included.

    I will direct the children to my avatar - please pet the fluffy kitty, please enter gaping jaw, please get in my belly.

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  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    edited February 2018
    No, this guy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KtIBPwaRkk

    Is that the Archdemon of Gluttony as the Sous chef?

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Should we have been gaining prestige for controlling cantons?
    We don't appear to have been.

  • MatevMatev Cero Miedo Registered User regular
    You do not gain prestige for Canton control, you gain resources.

    "Go down, kick ass, and set yourselves up as gods, that's our Prime Directive!"
    Hail Hydra
  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Matev wrote: »
    You do not gain prestige for Canton control, you gain resources.
    Matev wrote:
    Prestige is earned in several different ways, the main ones are:

    Conquering Places of Power
    Besting enemy Legions on the field of battle
    Controlling Cantons (Hexes) of territory
    Winning Vendettas and Blood Feuds
    Completing your House Objective

  • MatevMatev Cero Miedo Registered User regular
    Ah, that does require appendage. That's control at the end of the game.

    "Go down, kick ass, and set yourselves up as gods, that's our Prime Directive!"
    Hail Hydra
  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    edited February 2018
    In that case I'm still not seeing how the unfortunate get off zero prestige after mid-game:

    Conquering Places of Power - All gone, own stolen, can't provoke Vendetta
    Besting enemy Legions on the field of battle - Can't provoke Vendetta
    Controlling Cantons (Hexes) of territory - End of game
    Winning Vendettas and Blood Feuds - Can't provoke Vendetta
    Completing your House Objective - End of game

    discrider on
  • GizzyGizzy i am a cat PhoenixRegistered User regular
    There's a couple of relics for sale that could at least get you off the zero mark.

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    edited February 2018
    *grumble*
    Insults should be free!
    Heck, people should pay us to be insulted!

    But whatever the conclave says goes I guess.

    discrider on
  • RendRend Registered User regular
    I wasn't aware there was actually a cost for diplomatic efforts, and it does seem weird that there is, considering that's a huge part of interacting in this game, and it seems really easy to be left on 0 prestige near the beginning of the game.

    It would make sense if you could hurl insults and/or make demands without paying the prestige cost, but perhaps with a lower gain? Then at least you could still provoke vendetta or gain prestige slowly until you could afford to use those efforts as normal? Not sure but yeah it seems like an odd hole to fall into. In the computer game is that the sort of time where you might consider vassaling?

  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    I think in the computer game insults are free.
    But higher rank people can ignore them for some turns, and then just invade you for insulting without losing face.

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I think the zero rank people should probably be able to duke it out on the sands and regain some small amount of prestige by invading or single combat if they wager something else? like resources or something?

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    All this prestige we don't have is tiresome.
    How about you all bet your prestige on us in our upcoming duel, so that we all have no prestige left to fight over.

  • MatevMatev Cero Miedo Registered User regular
    For the record, insults aren't free in the computer game.

    General Strategy is to take a place of power or 2 to start generating prestige and establish territory before you start trying to pick fights.

    Also, insults can sometimes be good to tag some prestige off someone; but are dangerous because you're letting your opponent choose the terms of Vendetta, which if they know you well enough, they can dictate to guarantee a loss. Suffice to say, picking fights you're not reasonably sure you can win is considered unwise.

    "Go down, kick ass, and set yourselves up as gods, that's our Prime Directive!"
    Hail Hydra
  • RendRend Registered User regular
    Do PoP's generate prestige each turn?

  • MatevMatev Cero Miedo Registered User regular
    edited February 2018
    Yes! I will update things to explicitly state that.

    EDIT: It was already there. It was....it was already there.
    No seriously, it was on the Place of Power Summary already

    Matev on
    "Go down, kick ass, and set yourselves up as gods, that's our Prime Directive!"
    Hail Hydra
  • Virgil_Leads_YouVirgil_Leads_You Proud Father House GardenerRegistered User regular
    edited February 2018
    I've got a map update for day 4!
    Now with Combat Details on all Places of Power and Legions
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    Resource/Canton Ranking, by Mammon's Wealthiest Houses

    Lust:15 - 2 Legions
    Wrath:12 - 3 Legions
    Greed:12 - 1 Legion
    Gluttony:11 - 1 Legion
    Envy:10 - 2 Legions
    Sloth:9 - 2 Legions


    Hooray for a return to a work PC!

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    edited February 2018
    Matev wrote: »
    Yes! I will update things to explicitly state that.

    EDIT: It was already there. It was....it was already there.
    No seriously, it was on the Place of Power Summary already

    (It was only on one IIRC, City of Dis)

    discrider on
  • MatevMatev Cero Miedo Registered User regular
    matev wrote:
    (Place of Power Stats are listed as HP/Loyalty/Ranged/Melee/Infernal X Prestige gained a turn)

    "Go down, kick ass, and set yourselves up as gods, that's our Prime Directive!"
    Hail Hydra
  • Virgil_Leads_YouVirgil_Leads_You Proud Father House GardenerRegistered User regular
    edited February 2018
    I got the different prestige values on the map too!

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