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[Monster Hunter] World: New elder dragon event. Squad up!

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  • Forever ZefiroForever Zefiro cloaked in the midnight glory of an event horizonRegistered User regular
    edited March 2018
    furlion wrote: »
    Enlong wrote: »
    So are all armors now one piece == one ability? It would seem like that would make mixing sets a lot easier to pull off.

    Not all low rank armors, no. High rank has alpha and beta versions with the alpha having 2 skills and the beta having 1 plus gem slots. And yes they removed the need to accumulate a certain number of points just to activate the ability.

    Technically, some Alphas have slots too, just the Betas will have more or higher level slots compared to it. Also, I'm pretty sure there are a few Alphas that only have 1 skill but with like 2 or 3 points, and the Beta has fewer points

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  • BubsBubs Not Burbs ChicagoRegistered User regular
    furlion wrote: »
    Enlong wrote: »
    So are all armors now one piece == one ability? It would seem like that would make mixing sets a lot easier to pull off.

    Not all low rank armors, no. High rank has alpha and beta versions with the alpha having 2 skills and the beta having 1 plus gem slots. And yes they removed the need to accumulate a certain number of points just to activate the ability.

    Technically, some Alphas have slots too, just the Betas will have more or higher level slots compared to it. Also, I'm pretty sure there are a few Alphas that only have 1 skill but with like 2 or 3 points, and the Beta has fewer points

    All of that, in addition to the alpha and beta sets having slightly different looks, has convinced me that I need to collect both sets of all my favorite armor. And then upgrade it.

    Capcom really knows what they’re doing.

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  • SatsumomoSatsumomo Rated PG! Registered User regular
    The last 5 tempered monster runs I've done have yielded the same gems I get from regular ass monsters. And if not, I keep getting poisoncoat and elementless jewels.

  • SeidkonaSeidkona Had an upgrade Registered User regular
    edited March 2018
    Satsumomo wrote: »
    The last 5 tempered monster runs I've done have yielded the same gems I get from regular ass monsters. And if not, I keep getting poisoncoat and elementless jewels.

    And then I meld them and get the exact same decos back 90% of the time.

    I just need to run tempered and not worry about it so much but still. . .

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  • SatsumomoSatsumomo Rated PG! Registered User regular
    I mean I guess it's less RNG than wishing for a perfect stats 3 slot charm from the previous games, but I consistently get jewels I only need 1 of, or the same gems over and over, like Palico Rally.

  • The Raging PlatypusThe Raging Platypus Registered User regular
    Satsumomo wrote: »
    I mean I guess it's less RNG than wishing for a perfect stats 3 slot charm from the previous games, but I consistently get jewels I only need 1 of, or the same gems over and over, like Palico Rally.

    I did a 4 slot tempered investigation this morning which yielded, and I kid you not, FOUR FUDGIN' PALICO RALLY DECOS.

    *devours controller in rage*

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  • vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
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  • SatsumomoSatsumomo Rated PG! Registered User regular
    Satsumomo wrote: »
    I mean I guess it's less RNG than wishing for a perfect stats 3 slot charm from the previous games, but I consistently get jewels I only need 1 of, or the same gems over and over, like Palico Rally.

    I did a 4 slot tempered investigation this morning which yielded, and I kid you not, FOUR FUDGIN' PALICO RALLY DECOS.

    *devours controller in rage*

    That was definitely recording worthy!

  • SeidkonaSeidkona Had an upgrade Registered User regular
    Satsumomo wrote: »
    I mean I guess it's less RNG than wishing for a perfect stats 3 slot charm from the previous games, but I consistently get jewels I only need 1 of, or the same gems over and over, like Palico Rally.

    Part of the issue was there were ways other then going on a full hunt to get charms.

    Now if all you are after is decos you need to commit to a hunt to roll the rng wheel.

    Don't get me wrong I love hunting but sometimes I just want to zone out and work on sets and I miss that.

    Mostly just huntin' monsters.
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  • mojojoeomojojoeo A block off the park, living the dream.Registered User regular
    Satsumomo wrote: »
    Satsumomo wrote: »
    I mean I guess it's less RNG than wishing for a perfect stats 3 slot charm from the previous games, but I consistently get jewels I only need 1 of, or the same gems over and over, like Palico Rally.

    I did a 4 slot tempered investigation this morning which yielded, and I kid you not, FOUR FUDGIN' PALICO RALLY DECOS.

    *devours controller in rage*

    That was definitely recording worthy!

    yeah thats about as bad a beat as you can get.

    Im nearing 200 hours and just waiting for dlc. Wheres my deviljo?

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  • Trojan35Trojan35 I want Too Human 2. Registered User regular
    Le_Goat wrote: »
    Elendil wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    I do really like the reach on long sword for just about all mobs, sometimes I'd hit Kirin when he pranced by me but the slash just reached him. Hell I tripped him doing that once.

    You're making me want to turn longsword and be like everybody else. I love my dual blades to death, but I *am* jealous of weapons with more reach.
    If it helps, picture your combo finisher getting stuffed by a roar
    Dual Blades has a similar problem. Turn on Demon Mode, start the main combo, get 1 hit, ROAR... ROAR... watch your stamina deplete while you recover, turn Demon Mode off, run around like a squirrel on coffee.

    I was farming Daora last night as a DB. Adding in the constant wind staggers and zoning was annoying. I need to start carring flash bugs for him, because 3 flash bombs ain't enough solo.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    mojojoeo wrote: »
    Satsumomo wrote: »
    Satsumomo wrote: »
    I mean I guess it's less RNG than wishing for a perfect stats 3 slot charm from the previous games, but I consistently get jewels I only need 1 of, or the same gems over and over, like Palico Rally.

    I did a 4 slot tempered investigation this morning which yielded, and I kid you not, FOUR FUDGIN' PALICO RALLY DECOS.

    *devours controller in rage*

    That was definitely recording worthy!

    yeah thats about as bad a beat as you can get.

    Im nearing 200 hours and just waiting for dlc. Wheres my deviljo?

    Someone said this week?

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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  • tastydonutstastydonuts Registered User regular
    March 9th, I believe is what I saw somewhere.

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  • SatsumomoSatsumomo Rated PG! Registered User regular
    mojojoeo wrote: »
    Satsumomo wrote: »
    Satsumomo wrote: »
    I mean I guess it's less RNG than wishing for a perfect stats 3 slot charm from the previous games, but I consistently get jewels I only need 1 of, or the same gems over and over, like Palico Rally.

    I did a 4 slot tempered investigation this morning which yielded, and I kid you not, FOUR FUDGIN' PALICO RALLY DECOS.

    *devours controller in rage*

    That was definitely recording worthy!

    yeah thats about as bad a beat as you can get.

    Im nearing 200 hours and just waiting for dlc. Wheres my deviljo?

    With how much I see you online and playing, you were the person I least expected to kill the monster in a capture quest, specially with me doing the "Stop stop stop!" emote. Why are you like this with me Mojo? </3

  • Corporal CarlCorporal Carl Registered User regular
    Yay, I got my first warrior’s streamstone, useful for Dual Blades :biggrin:
    Time to farm materials for Fire & Ice (only need 3 Daora horns).

    I guess for rapid hitting weapons (lance, SnS) you use Health Regen?
    Though if I ever get a stone for the LBG, I’m going to smack affinity on my Karma, just because I can :biggrin:

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  • fRAWRstfRAWRst The Seas Call The Mad AnswerRegistered User regular
    for some reason i doubt deviljho will be in that hunt 20 small monsters quest

    but maybe ill be surprised

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  • The Raging PlatypusThe Raging Platypus Registered User regular
    Fought tempered Kirin for the first time.

    Holy crap, that is one infuriating fight.

    Quid wrote: »
    YOU'RE A GOD DAMN PLATYPUS.
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  • WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    Yay, I got my first warrior’s streamstone, useful for Dual Blades :biggrin:
    Time to farm materials for Fire & Ice (only need 3 Daora horns).

    I guess for rapid hitting weapons (lance, SnS) you use Health Regen?
    Though if I ever get a stone for the LBG, I’m going to smack affinity on my Karma, just because I can :biggrin:

    Health regen is based on motion values of the attacks, so it's just as useful on slow, powerful weapons as it is on faster, lighter weapons!

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  • SeidkonaSeidkona Had an upgrade Registered User regular
    I wouldn't put it on SnS though. Way too easy to heal any number of ways that you are better off doing something else with that stone.

    Mostly just huntin' monsters.
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  • CalebrosCalebros a k a TimesNewPwnin Registered User regular
    fRAWRst wrote: »
    for some reason i doubt deviljho will be in that hunt 20 small monsters quest

    but maybe ill be surprised

    well to be fair, it's a 9* "collect 10 unique mushrooms" quest.

    it's probably just going to be a bunch of tempered monsters, but it seems especially Deviljho-esque to crash the party during "A Simple Task"

  • tastydonutstastydonuts Registered User regular
    edited March 2018
    Calebros wrote: »
    fRAWRst wrote: »
    for some reason i doubt deviljho will be in that hunt 20 small monsters quest

    but maybe ill be surprised

    well to be fair, it's a 9* "collect 10 unique mushrooms" quest.

    it's probably just going to be a bunch of tempered monsters, but it seems especially Deviljho-esque to crash the party during "A Simple Task"

    Either that or Five tempered Bazel at once.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Calebros wrote: »
    fRAWRst wrote: »
    for some reason i doubt deviljho will be in that hunt 20 small monsters quest

    but maybe ill be surprised

    well to be fair, it's a 9* "collect 10 unique mushrooms" quest.

    it's probably just going to be a bunch of tempered monsters, but it seems especially Deviljho-esque to crash the party during "A Simple Task"

    Either that or Five tempered Bazel at once.

    Each time you collect a mushroom it summons a bazel.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
  • The Raging PlatypusThe Raging Platypus Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    Calebros wrote: »
    fRAWRst wrote: »
    for some reason i doubt deviljho will be in that hunt 20 small monsters quest

    but maybe ill be surprised

    well to be fair, it's a 9* "collect 10 unique mushrooms" quest.

    it's probably just going to be a bunch of tempered monsters, but it seems especially Deviljho-esque to crash the party during "A Simple Task"

    Either that or Five tempered Bazel at once.

    Each time you collect a mushroom it summons a bazel.

    This would be the MH:World equivalent of thermonuclear war.

    Your console would just shrug and melt into a pile of radioactive sludge.

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  • vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
    I'm still wondering what Deviljho armor they'll use for World:

    Ninja/Professional Wrestler w/ Facemask?
    Or Pirate/Jojo Character w/ Cool Hat?
    Or "Something New"?

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    JoJo, please

  • Forever ZefiroForever Zefiro cloaked in the midnight glory of an event horizonRegistered User regular
    Entaru wrote: »
    I wouldn't put it on SnS though. Way too easy to heal any number of ways that you are better off doing something else with that stone.

    What would you suggest for S&S? Attack? I've been bouncing between the Turkey Leg (Barroth club) and the Grand Barong

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  • mojojoeomojojoeo A block off the park, living the dream.Registered User regular
    edited March 2018
    Satsumomo wrote: »
    mojojoeo wrote: »
    Satsumomo wrote: »
    Satsumomo wrote: »
    I mean I guess it's less RNG than wishing for a perfect stats 3 slot charm from the previous games, but I consistently get jewels I only need 1 of, or the same gems over and over, like Palico Rally.

    I did a 4 slot tempered investigation this morning which yielded, and I kid you not, FOUR FUDGIN' PALICO RALLY DECOS.

    *devours controller in rage*

    That was definitely recording worthy!

    yeah thats about as bad a beat as you can get.

    Im nearing 200 hours and just waiting for dlc. Wheres my deviljo?

    With how much I see you online and playing, you were the person I least expected to kill the monster in a capture quest, specially with me doing the "Stop stop stop!" emote. Why are you like this with me Mojo? </3

    I fell asleep at the wheel and was trying new weapons!

    Of all the people it had to be you....

    i almost threw the controller when that happened.

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  • WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    edited March 2018
    Entaru wrote: »
    I wouldn't put it on SnS though. Way too easy to heal any number of ways that you are better off doing something else with that stone.

    What would you suggest for S&S? Attack? I've been bouncing between the Turkey Leg (Barroth club) and the Grand Barong

    If you just want damage, your first augment should usually be Affinity. The difference is marginal but it's the better one for making your numbers better over time.

    Stolen from a tweet I made regarding the Val Hazaak greatsword:
    The formula I use is Average Attack = TS(1+AC)

    T = true raw
    S = sharpness modifier
    A = affinity%
    C = crit multiplier%

    At TR 200, crit boost level 3, white sharpness, and no Weakness Exploit:

    Aff boost = 200x1.32(1+0.1x0.4) = 274.56
    Att = 205x1.32(1+0x0.4) = 270.6

    This should plug pretty easily into any weapon, and is easily adjustable to account for other skills that boost attack or affinity

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  • SeidkonaSeidkona Had an upgrade Registered User regular
    edited March 2018
    Entaru wrote: »
    I wouldn't put it on SnS though. Way too easy to heal any number of ways that you are better off doing something else with that stone.

    What would you suggest for S&S? Attack? I've been bouncing between the Turkey Leg (Barroth club) and the Grand Barong

    I would try to maybe go one affinity and the rest raw?

    You could make the case on the Barroth club to go all affinity to remove the affinity penalty.

    I am not sure the numbers on it right now.

    I mean health won't hurt it at all it's just so easy to heal as an SnS.


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  • SaldonasSaldonas See you space cowboy...Registered User regular
    edited March 2018
    What's nice with the barroth club is that you only need one affinity augment to remove the penalty. It's what I did for my first augment. Mainly did it because I wasn't sure what other SNS I wanted to use at the time, but it's worked out pretty nicely. It's a little unfortunate that it can't get white sharpness but I think that's alright.

    Was kind of debating what sort of set would go really well with the Teostra Emblem, since handicraft 5 gets it up to white and it's got that fun blast element.

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    Is white sharpness more or less limited to handicraft? I know the xeno weapons get a little bit, and a couple weapons get maybe a sliver of it naturally

    But generally i.expect white sharpness = handicraft investment?

  • mojojoeomojojoeo A block off the park, living the dream.Registered User regular
    Elendil wrote: »
    Is white sharpness more or less limited to handicraft? I know the xeno weapons get a little bit, and a couple weapons get maybe a sliver of it naturally

    But generally i.expect white sharpness = handicraft investment?

    not really. Some weapons have it, some dont.

    If you have a sliver of white (and a full bar so handicraft cant help you) you can ignore handicraft and go with sharpness (you get a little shield on your weapon after sharpening-> protecting that white) or the very hard to get protective polish jewel (or easy to get armor).

    there's some weapons they purpose built for the player to commit to handicraft (see zorah charge blade that tops out green without heavy investment to handicraft)

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  • WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    Yeah white sharpness needs that Handicraft most of the time, and none of the English language resources I've looked at actually list which weapons get how much (or any) white sharpness from different levels of it

    There are way to cut down on the investment you need, like Protective Polish and some crit skills, but...

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  • Evil MonkeyEvil Monkey Grover beachRegistered User regular
    edited March 2018
    Le_Goat wrote: »
    Elendil wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    I do really like the reach on long sword for just about all mobs, sometimes I'd hit Kirin when he pranced by me but the slash just reached him. Hell I tripped him doing that once.

    You're making me want to turn longsword and be like everybody else. I love my dual blades to death, but I *am* jealous of weapons with more reach.
    If it helps, picture your combo finisher getting stuffed by a roar
    Dual Blades has a similar problem. Turn on Demon Mode, start the main combo, get 1 hit, ROAR... ROAR... watch your stamina deplete while you recover, turn Demon Mode off, run around like a squirrel on coffee.

    I run ear plug 5 in all my db builds minus kirin. It make db so much more fun and enjoyable......
    Edit @Billiardball said everything I wanted toooo.

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  • Forever ZefiroForever Zefiro cloaked in the midnight glory of an event horizonRegistered User regular
    mojojoeo wrote: »
    Elendil wrote: »
    Is white sharpness more or less limited to handicraft? I know the xeno weapons get a little bit, and a couple weapons get maybe a sliver of it naturally

    But generally i.expect white sharpness = handicraft investment?

    not really. Some weapons have it, some dont.

    If you have a sliver of white (and a full bar so handicraft cant help you) you can ignore handicraft and go with sharpness (you get a little shield on your weapon after sharpening-> protecting that white) or the very hard to get protective polish jewel (or easy to get armor).

    there's some weapons they purpose built for the player to commit to handicraft (see zorah charge blade that tops out green without heavy investment to handicraft)

    I thought people were saying sharpness wasn’t very important for Charge Blades

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  • ObiFettObiFett Use the Force As You WishRegistered User regular
    mojojoeo wrote: »
    Elendil wrote: »
    Is white sharpness more or less limited to handicraft? I know the xeno weapons get a little bit, and a couple weapons get maybe a sliver of it naturally

    But generally i.expect white sharpness = handicraft investment?

    not really. Some weapons have it, some dont.

    If you have a sliver of white (and a full bar so handicraft cant help you) you can ignore handicraft and go with sharpness (you get a little shield on your weapon after sharpening-> protecting that white) or the very hard to get protective polish jewel (or easy to get armor).

    there's some weapons they purpose built for the player to commit to handicraft (see zorah charge blade that tops out green without heavy investment to handicraft)

    I thought people were saying sharpness wasn’t very important for Charge Blades

    If you play it right, you have mind's eye up for the majority of the fight. So you don't need to worry about bouncing due to low sharpness as a CB'er

  • Romantic UndeadRomantic Undead Registered User regular
    ObiFett wrote: »
    mojojoeo wrote: »
    Elendil wrote: »
    Is white sharpness more or less limited to handicraft? I know the xeno weapons get a little bit, and a couple weapons get maybe a sliver of it naturally

    But generally i.expect white sharpness = handicraft investment?

    not really. Some weapons have it, some dont.

    If you have a sliver of white (and a full bar so handicraft cant help you) you can ignore handicraft and go with sharpness (you get a little shield on your weapon after sharpening-> protecting that white) or the very hard to get protective polish jewel (or easy to get armor).

    there's some weapons they purpose built for the player to commit to handicraft (see zorah charge blade that tops out green without heavy investment to handicraft)

    I thought people were saying sharpness wasn’t very important for Charge Blades

    If you play it right, you have mind's eye up for the majority of the fight. So you don't need to worry about bouncing due to low sharpness as a CB'er

    Look at the new guy talking like a 'vet! :P
    I love it!

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    mojojoeo wrote: »
    Elendil wrote: »
    Is white sharpness more or less limited to handicraft? I know the xeno weapons get a little bit, and a couple weapons get maybe a sliver of it naturally

    But generally i.expect white sharpness = handicraft investment?

    not really. Some weapons have it, some dont.

    If you have a sliver of white (and a full bar so handicraft cant help you) you can ignore handicraft and go with sharpness (you get a little shield on your weapon after sharpening-> protecting that white) or the very hard to get protective polish jewel (or easy to get armor).

    there's some weapons they purpose built for the player to commit to handicraft (see zorah charge blade that tops out green without heavy investment to handicraft)

    I thought people were saying sharpness wasn’t very important for Charge Blades
    Maybe affinity? SAED apparently doesn't crit.

    Sharpness seems like it's always a nice to have. It's like a 20% damage boost for as long as you have it.

  • fRAWRstfRAWRst The Seas Call The Mad AnswerRegistered User regular
    Elendil wrote: »
    mojojoeo wrote: »
    Elendil wrote: »
    Is white sharpness more or less limited to handicraft? I know the xeno weapons get a little bit, and a couple weapons get maybe a sliver of it naturally

    But generally i.expect white sharpness = handicraft investment?

    not really. Some weapons have it, some dont.

    If you have a sliver of white (and a full bar so handicraft cant help you) you can ignore handicraft and go with sharpness (you get a little shield on your weapon after sharpening-> protecting that white) or the very hard to get protective polish jewel (or easy to get armor).

    there's some weapons they purpose built for the player to commit to handicraft (see zorah charge blade that tops out green without heavy investment to handicraft)

    I thought people were saying sharpness wasn’t very important for Charge Blades
    Maybe affinity? SAED apparently doesn't crit.

    Sharpness seems like it's always a nice to have. It's like a 20% damage boost for as long as you have it.

    Sharpness does not affect phial damage, so SAED and AED do not benefit from sharpness, from white to green

    the sword attacks and non phial axe attacks get sharpness multipliers

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    Huh. That makes a stronger case for the Zorah charge blade, which has good stats, and looks cool but has the worst sharpness in the history of the universe

    I wonder how that would go with the Blos set bonus

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