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Der Waffle MousBlame this on the misfortune of your birth.New Yark, New Yark.Registered Userregular
the nice thing is, like, the chest you obtain aren't tied to anything. You can pretty much boost another character by hoarding the lower-level chests and having them open it.
the nice thing is, like, the chest you obtain aren't tied to anything. You can pretty much boost another character by hoarding the lower-level chests and having them open it.
They'll open a bunch of whites at level 1 though. I honestly don't think that method is worth it too much unless you're good with whatever your level 30 has available.
Also I wish the Hand Maiden was good and not a terrible mixture of traits that don't make an even passably playable character.
Open crates on your highest level characters to get those sweet blues and oranges, then craft what you want for lower level characters.
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Shortytouching the meatIntergalactic Cool CourtRegistered Userregular
handmaiden's dash is hard to do stuff with
like you'd think you'd mainly want to hold it for escapes, but it also does damage, so if you try to use it for that it's really easy to wind up completely surrounded because you dashed into way more enemies than you realized
it also doesn't give you any iframes at all so dashing through enemies who are currently attacking you is incredibly risky, and they almost always are doing exactly that, thus making it not great for escaping, either
like you'd think you'd mainly want to hold it for escapes, but it also does damage, so if you try to use it for that it's really easy to wind up completely surrounded because you dashed into way more enemies than you realized
it also doesn't give you any iframes at all so dashing through enemies who are currently attacking you is incredibly risky, and they almost always are doing exactly that, thus making it not great for escaping, either
Hold block when you dash (also do this when leaping as Slayer)
It's really good against shield enemies and stormvermin, you get the automatic bleed damage and can easily flank them
Also handy in some cases for dodging past bosses, since you'll go right through them
i agree that handmaiden is pretty much how much you can get out of her dash... which often isn't that much... i'm thinking that with some good oranges she might get to a place where her dash is available VERY frequently, enabling you to do some goku stuff, at least with a conc potion
as shorty has alluded to, it's really all about the delta between HM/Shade and Wayfairer, because Wayfairer is a GOD, and is always good in any situation, map, difficulty, etc
i just got an orange that gives me a 20% chance to dupe my healing item... could be a nice game changer... not reliable though. I haven't gotten many useful oranges so far, and I'm not one to reroll
like you'd think you'd mainly want to hold it for escapes, but it also does damage, so if you try to use it for that it's really easy to wind up completely surrounded because you dashed into way more enemies than you realized
it also doesn't give you any iframes at all so dashing through enemies who are currently attacking you is incredibly risky, and they almost always are doing exactly that, thus making it not great for escaping, either
Hold block when you dash (also do this when leaping as Slayer)
It's really good against shield enemies and stormvermin, you get the automatic bleed damage and can easily flank them
Also handy in some cases for dodging past bosses, since you'll go right through them
You don’t get the bleed till level 25 though and before then the dash is just an okay escape at best.
like you'd think you'd mainly want to hold it for escapes, but it also does damage, so if you try to use it for that it's really easy to wind up completely surrounded because you dashed into way more enemies than you realized
it also doesn't give you any iframes at all so dashing through enemies who are currently attacking you is incredibly risky, and they almost always are doing exactly that, thus making it not great for escaping, either
Hold block when you dash (also do this when leaping as Slayer)
It's really good against shield enemies and stormvermin, you get the automatic bleed damage and can easily flank them
Also handy in some cases for dodging past bosses, since you'll go right through them
You don’t get the bleed till level 25 though and before then the dash is just an okay escape at best.
The dash by default inflicts a bleed / stagger, the level 25 talent adds damage but reduces the stagger duration
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What level are you supposed to start opening commendation chests?
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Ok, I love this game. I've been playing as Kreuber with Mace and Shield because I couldn't get a good 2 handed hammer which is my baby. Finnally got one and showed the Ratmen what for. It is officially Hammertime.
The sweep attack seems much more satisfying to me in this game. I may try a Glaive Glaive Guisarme Glaive when I find one. ;-)
Also, in order to help others I'll mention this, I was crashing about 5 times an hour. Usually with an audio stutter stuck on repeat when it happened. I disabled in game chat and lowered the number of blood decals. I haven't had a problem since I did this. I don't know which one fixed it. My friends and I use Teamspeak so it's not really a problem but I hope they fix whatever is causing this. And yes my audio and video drivers are up to date.
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Der Waffle MousBlame this on the misfortune of your birth.New Yark, New Yark.Registered Userregular
it definitely stuns them... i would say the bleed is nearly worthless though. It's most useful against packs of shield rats since I think it will shield break them too
a cool thing they could do instead of making it a super fast recharge as it is currently, make it a normal recharge, but allow you to use it twice in a row... then you could break lines and return to safety
right now there's a lot of risk for little payoff... and in situations where there is no risk... it's hardly worth doing anyway
Honestly it's super weird that Hand maiden's this support/off tank and Waystalker is the definitive ranged sniper and it's the DPS class that gets the heal.
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Shortytouching the meatIntergalactic Cool CourtRegistered Userregular
it is odd but it's also worth mentioning that on the higher difficulties the passive heal doesn't really matter
most things hit so hard that you'll die before it can be of any use, especially if you're collecting any grimoires
I swear to god grimoires are some sort of dunning-kruger experiment
dunning-kruber
yeah. its especially good when they get picked up when you're already all at like 12% health
...sure bud.. it'll only get easier from here
i've generally found that unless I am personally carrying in quickplay i dont win. but this changes in Champion, where apparently people have enough shame to not queue if they are unsure where the block button is
but for leveling up other heroes it's pretty brutal having to choose between being extremely bored in recruit, or losing in veteran because you're not 100 hero power too high for it
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Der Waffle MousBlame this on the misfortune of your birth.New Yark, New Yark.Registered Userregular
I've gone through veteran Against the Grain enough times that I feel like there's a special place in hell for the people who pick up the two grimoires before opening the barn door.
I swear to god grimoires are some sort of dunning-kruger experiment
dunning-kruber
I was playing with a friend and some of his co-workers, and his two co-workers tried veteran for the first time with us. We were on the level with the nurgle growths you have to pop at the end, and we were doing... okay. Definitely having some trouble though, and I was like "Okay, we should probably just skip the second grim. It's a huge pain in the ass, we're already having a bit of trouble and we'll probably take more damage trying to get it than the enemies will deal."
Nope, had to try and grab that grim, wasting all our remaining healing supplies in the process. We finally get it, then once we get to the next section everyone but me gets wiped out by a horde with a chaos warrior. I run my little dwarf-ass raw while turning around to fire at pursuing enemies with my drakefire pistols, and manage to murder/run my way to all my allies who had respawned. I get two of them up, but get grabbed by a leech and then the two I got up get wiped out again. It's like... man, maybe we shouldn't have wasted a ton of resources and time to grab an item that only weakened us further when we weren't doing hot?
i got kruber to 7 to see if that profession was good.. and uhh, no maybe not. i thought the ammo perk would be solid but getting headshot crits consistently with his guns is unpleasant and counterproductive
regular ol' kruber is hard to replace. back to salty as my backup hero
I've gone through veteran Against the Grain enough times that I feel like there's a special place in hell for the people who pick up the two grimoires before opening the barn door.
its unlimited, however it's not really a ranged attack... the effective range is quite short. i think the purpose of that move (which I admittedly only starting toying with last night) is more like a cone stagger effect
you can't use it to kill a special or anything like that, its sort of a 'get off me' move
It's useful for taking advantage of his first two subclass' special abilities. Witch Hunter Captain auto kills with a crit headshot, and Bounty Hunter can trigger Blessed Shots with it (which resets it on kill since you're using a melee weapon technically)
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but you should definitely stick with it, and try all the characters
my 300 hero power elf is available if im in the game, i'm not sure how steam IDs work but mine is my forum name (i think)
I'm about at the point where I need to start playing Champion for a challenge, but I want my level 20 talent first
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They'll open a bunch of whites at level 1 though. I honestly don't think that method is worth it too much unless you're good with whatever your level 30 has available.
Also I wish the Hand Maiden was good and not a terrible mixture of traits that don't make an even passably playable character.
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like you'd think you'd mainly want to hold it for escapes, but it also does damage, so if you try to use it for that it's really easy to wind up completely surrounded because you dashed into way more enemies than you realized
it also doesn't give you any iframes at all so dashing through enemies who are currently attacking you is incredibly risky, and they almost always are doing exactly that, thus making it not great for escaping, either
Hold block when you dash (also do this when leaping as Slayer)
It's really good against shield enemies and stormvermin, you get the automatic bleed damage and can easily flank them
Also handy in some cases for dodging past bosses, since you'll go right through them
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as shorty has alluded to, it's really all about the delta between HM/Shade and Wayfairer, because Wayfairer is a GOD, and is always good in any situation, map, difficulty, etc
i just got an orange that gives me a 20% chance to dupe my healing item... could be a nice game changer... not reliable though. I haven't gotten many useful oranges so far, and I'm not one to reroll
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hurr hurr hurr
The dash by default inflicts a bleed / stagger, the level 25 talent adds damage but reduces the stagger duration
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It's entirely possible it's bugged, but dashing through a Chaos Warrior causes the "armored" icon to pop up, so there is some kind of damage component
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It does that thing where loots determined on open not drop so like 30 I guess
I find the power system so dumb but w/e games fun
The sweep attack seems much more satisfying to me in this game. I may try a Glaive Glaive Guisarme Glaive when I find one. ;-)
Also, in order to help others I'll mention this, I was crashing about 5 times an hour. Usually with an audio stutter stuck on repeat when it happened. I disabled in game chat and lowered the number of blood decals. I haven't had a problem since I did this. I don't know which one fixed it. My friends and I use Teamspeak so it's not really a problem but I hope they fix whatever is causing this. And yes my audio and video drivers are up to date.
its kinda subtle.
Also very anime.
In that you dash through a bunch of trash mobs and turn around to see them all slowly crumple to the ground from the dot.
When the power of your gear is at 200.
Replace it with your gear score. Or nothing at all.
Almost feel like it should be instant damage just so the power is more visible in that case.
a cool thing they could do instead of making it a super fast recharge as it is currently, make it a normal recharge, but allow you to use it twice in a row... then you could break lines and return to safety
right now there's a lot of risk for little payoff... and in situations where there is no risk... it's hardly worth doing anyway
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e: this is not to say that you shouldn't play them, necessarily
by all means, if you have fun with them, please do
just don't be surprised if you have to work twice as hard as you would have
most things hit so hard that you'll die before it can be of any use, especially if you're collecting any grimoires
just did a champion run and never came close to running out
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dunning-kruber
yeah. its especially good when they get picked up when you're already all at like 12% health
...sure bud.. it'll only get easier from here
i've generally found that unless I am personally carrying in quickplay i dont win. but this changes in Champion, where apparently people have enough shame to not queue if they are unsure where the block button is
but for leveling up other heroes it's pretty brutal having to choose between being extremely bored in recruit, or losing in veteran because you're not 100 hero power too high for it
we also talk about other random shit and clown upon each other
I was playing with a friend and some of his co-workers, and his two co-workers tried veteran for the first time with us. We were on the level with the nurgle growths you have to pop at the end, and we were doing... okay. Definitely having some trouble though, and I was like "Okay, we should probably just skip the second grim. It's a huge pain in the ass, we're already having a bit of trouble and we'll probably take more damage trying to get it than the enemies will deal."
Nope, had to try and grab that grim, wasting all our remaining healing supplies in the process. We finally get it, then once we get to the next section everyone but me gets wiped out by a horde with a chaos warrior. I run my little dwarf-ass raw while turning around to fire at pursuing enemies with my drakefire pistols, and manage to murder/run my way to all my allies who had respawned. I get two of them up, but get grabbed by a leech and then the two I got up get wiped out again. It's like... man, maybe we shouldn't have wasted a ton of resources and time to grab an item that only weakened us further when we weren't doing hot?
regular ol' kruber is hard to replace. back to salty as my backup hero
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Wasn't that limited in the first game? Granted, I know it's a weak attack, but an unlimited ranged attack is still a nice bonus.
No fear.
you can't use it to kill a special or anything like that, its sort of a 'get off me' move
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