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Penny Arcade - Comic - Realiti

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edited March 14 in The Penny Arcade Hub

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Videogaming-related online strip by Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins. Includes news and commentary.

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  • KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    “We want him to succeed but he keeps not doing that.”

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  • RatherDashing89RatherDashing89 Registered User regular
    Technically, I guess "no one wants him to succeed more than we do" doesn't have to mean they want him to succeed that much...

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  • RigamarawRigamaraw Registered User regular
    edited March 14
    Yes, Dallas Fuel and xQc, I know these words.

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  • ImthebOHGODBEESImthebOHGODBEES Registered User regular
    I see this as an internet powerhouse picking sides against shitbaggery. I am in full support.

    Do you, in fact, have any builds in this shop at all?
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  • Skull2185Skull2185 Mr. Steal yo' heart Registered User regular
    Was the guy just not playing well, or did he say/do something stupid to get kicked off the team?

  • LieutenantDanLieutenantDan Registered User regular
    I'm probably old but I have no idea what my fellow geezers are talking about

  • TiamatZTiamatZ Ghost puns The Banette of my existenceRegistered User regular
    edited March 14
    Skull2185 wrote: »
    Was the guy just not playing well, or did he say/do something stupid to get kicked off the team?
    Pretty much
    The Dallas Fuel announced today that it has released Overwatch League player Félix "xQc" Lengyel from its roster. xQc, a Winston specialist who played main tank for the Fuel, has been suspended twice during the League's inaugural season—first for homophobic remarks against an opposing player and then secondly earlier this week for various reasons, including spreading racially disparaging emotes and using disparaging language against Overwatch League casters and fellow players.

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  • Skull2185Skull2185 Mr. Steal yo' heart Registered User regular
    This is a job, right? Like you get paid to play Overwatch?

    How can you be so dumb to mess that up?

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  • SadgasmSadgasm Deluded doodler A cold placeRegistered User regular
    TiamatZ wrote: »
    Skull2185 wrote: »
    Was the guy just not playing well, or did he say/do something stupid to get kicked off the team?
    Pretty much
    The Dallas Fuel announced today that it has released Overwatch League player Félix "xQc" Lengyel from its roster. xQc, a Winston specialist who played main tank for the Fuel, has been suspended twice during the League's inaugural season—first for homophobic remarks against an opposing player and then secondly earlier this week for various reasons, including spreading racially disparaging emotes and using disparaging language against Overwatch League casters and fellow players.

    Yeah, behaving like a sociopathic 13 year old might fly when you were playing in your moms basement, but when its your actual JOB you might want to dial it back a bit

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  • droopymccdroopymcc Registered User new member
    Sorry, my old is showing. I have no idea what they're talking about today. :D

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  • DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    Skull2185 wrote: »
    This is a job, right? Like you get paid to play Overwatch?

    How can you be so dumb to mess that up?

    Same way people get fired for dumb shit in every job ever.

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  • BursarBursar Hee Noooo! Registered User regular
    droopymcc wrote: »
    Sorry, my old is showing. I have no idea what they're talking about today. :D

    Some asshole got fired from an esports team for being an asshole.

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  • jayjaybearjayjaybear Registered User new member
    Welcome to the pros. "Gamer culture" may be all trash-talking, insults and self-puffing (it really isn't, but...) but general culture isn't, and professional esports is the interface between them. The OWL and/or the individual teams really should be putting all of these players through classes on public comportment, like IRL pro sports does.

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  • dennisdennis Registered User regular
    The Dallas Fuel announced today that it has released Overwatch League player Félix "xQc" Lengyel from its roster. xQc, a Winston specialist who played main tank for the Fuel, has been suspended twice during the League's inaugural season—first for homophobic remarks against an opposing player and then secondly earlier this week for various reasons, including spreading racially disparaging emotes and using disparaging language against Overwatch League casters and fellow players.

    If you - like me - were perplexed by the idea of a "racially disparaging [twitch] emote", and you really want to know what that's about, here you go:

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  • jwalkjwalk Registered User regular
    edited March 14
    "no one wants to see him succeed" - should have just stopped right there.

    also, my dudes, if you're going to set up a camera in your bedroom and live-stream yourself playing games on the TwitcherTube or whatever, please dear god, tidy up a little bit? THANKS

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  • RigamarawRigamaraw Registered User regular
    dennis wrote: »
    If you - like me - were perplexed by the idea of a "racially disparaging [twitch] emote", and you really want to know what that's about, here you go:

    That's...actually really interesting.

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  • KanaKana Registered User regular
    Pretty much everyone that knows xqc seems to agree that hes a nice dude in person, but also that hes a fucking moron who has spent way too much time talking to twitch chat.

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  • tastydonutstastydonuts Registered User regular
    dennis wrote: »
    The Dallas Fuel announced today that it has released Overwatch League player Félix "xQc" Lengyel from its roster. xQc, a Winston specialist who played main tank for the Fuel, has been suspended twice during the League's inaugural season—first for homophobic remarks against an opposing player and then secondly earlier this week for various reasons, including spreading racially disparaging emotes and using disparaging language against Overwatch League casters and fellow players.

    If you - like me - were perplexed by the idea of a "racially disparaging [twitch] emote", and you really want to know what that's about, here you go:

    TBF, it kind of feels like 9 out of 10 emotes spammed in twitch have racially/etc disparaging origins. It's like the rule, not the exception.

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  • ravageravage Registered User new member
    Custa (another member of Dallas Fuel, for those who don't know) had a great summary of the situation on his stream https://clips.twitch.tv/CrazyManlyTruffleCorgiDerp

    TL;DR: You can't have the team and coaching staff invest hours into you, working on strats and synergy and all the rest, if you're just going to get yourself suspended and not be able to play. It makes no sense.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    You know you can tell esports are hitting real sports territory when people are doing stupid things outside the game and hurting their team. *sniffle* THEY GROW UP SO FAST!

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  • OctoberRavenOctoberRaven Plays fighting games for the story Skyeline Hotel Apartment 4ARegistered User regular
    Kana wrote: »
    Pretty much everyone that knows xqc seems to agree that hes a nice dude in person, but also that hes a fucking moron who has spent way too much time talking to twitch chat.

    Can you really chalk it up to GIFT if they're not really anonymous though?

  • tastydonutstastydonuts Registered User regular
    edited March 14
    Kana wrote: »
    Pretty much everyone that knows xqc seems to agree that hes a nice dude in person, but also that hes a fucking moron who has spent way too much time talking to twitch chat.

    Can you really chalk it up to GIFT if they're not really anonymous though?

    technically, an esports person is something of a public figure/brand, so perhaps his incredibly poorly thought out behaviour is the character he plays?

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  • Edith UpwardsEdith Upwards Registered User regular
    edited March 15
    Skull2185 wrote: »
    This is a job, right? Like you get paid to play Overwatch?

    How can you be so dumb to mess that up?

    Labor aristocrats(eg, engineers, technicians, etc) during the seventies would routinely flush six figures, a pension, and full bennies away because they were constitutionally incapable of behaving like professionals.

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    Forkboy84 wrote:
    Good tip, learn from the man who is being put in jail. Purge the right and centre when you have the chance because if you don't then they'll purge you.
  • KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    I don’t get twitch chat 90% of the time it’s too fast to even read anything the rest of the time it’s just shitposting.

    Then again maybe internet chatting has always been like that and I am just too old to follow it anymore. That sucks.

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  • NightslyrNightslyr Registered User regular
    Kagera wrote: »
    I don’t get twitch chat 90% of the time it’s too fast to even read anything the rest of the time it’s just shitposting.

    Then again maybe internet chatting has always been like that and I am just too old to follow it anymore. That sucks.

    In my experience, there's two types of Twitch chat:

    1. Rapid fire shitposting. This is the default mode for popular streams, even if there's moderation.
    2. Actual, moderately pleasant chat with people who aren't acting like shit gibbons. This is far more common with smaller streams that have tight moderation.

    I only follow streams from #2. I've learned that with anything related to social media, curating according to basic standards of human decency is really the only way to go. My enjoyment is magnified, and assholes are ignored as they should be.

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  • Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    Kana wrote: »
    Pretty much everyone that knows xqc seems to agree that hes a nice dude in person, but also that hes a fucking moron who has spent way too much time talking to twitch chat.

    Can you really chalk it up to GIFT if they're not really anonymous though?

    Too many people still don't seem to think that what happens/they do on the internet is entirely 'real', even some who've grown up with it.

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  • dennisdennis Registered User regular
    Kagera wrote: »
    I don’t get twitch chat 90% of the time it’s too fast to even read anything the rest of the time it’s just shitposting.

    Then again maybe internet chatting has always been like that and I am just too old to follow it anymore. That sucks.
    Nightslyr wrote: »
    In my experience, there's two types of Twitch chat:

    1. Rapid fire shitposting. This is the default mode for popular streams, even if there's moderation.
    2. Actual, moderately pleasant chat with people who aren't acting like shit gibbons. This is far more common with smaller streams that have tight moderation.

    I only follow streams from #2. I've learned that with anything related to social media, curating according to basic standards of human decency is really the only way to go. My enjoyment is magnified, and assholes are ignored as they should be.

    I just want to put a plug in for the chat on the PA streams. It's always #2. It CAN get a little rapid fire, but that's the exception to the rule and only on their most popular shows. And it doesn't get shitty, even without heavy moderation. I don't know, I guess it's just mostly cool people? On most of the streams, it's just pretty laid back and you can interact with whichever of the PA crew are streaming.

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  • BloodySlothBloodySloth Registered User regular
    day9 has a pretty nice chat stream, too. Admittedly he's not the biggest fish in the pond anymore, but he's still a pretty big fish, yet his chat is almost totally absent of shitposting. Hell the last time I visited there, several users were discussing the integration of exponential functions.

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  • H3KnucklesH3Knuckles Jack of all interests... ...master of noneRegistered User regular
    edited March 15
    day9 has a pretty nice chat stream, too. Admittedly he's not the biggest fish in the pond anymore, but he's still a pretty big fish, yet his chat is almost totally absent of shitposting. Hell the last time I visited there, several users were discussing the integration of exponential functions.

    I will never be able to think of day9 without thinking of this "sick move he made with his sick play" (skip to 5 minutes 24 seconds and watch to 7m30s):

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  • OddfishOddfish On opposite weeks In odd numbered monthsRegistered User regular
    (The following exposition is for those of you who, like me, are old and sometimes get lost)

    There are certain Twitch channels whose moderators are uniquely effective and put a stop to the immature, shithead behavior at the onset. Typically the chat is steady, cohesive, often nearly as fun to read and pay attention to as the stream itself because it's essentially a visual reaction that can mirror your own. Like being at a movie on opening night with a bunch of die-hard fans who all cheer or shout in unison when something incredible happens. On the flip-side of that coin you have a toxic-wasteland nightmare hellscape chat channel that revolves entirely around spamming racism, misogyny, and other miserable bigotry because the mods have given up or are non-existent and it's never been addressed by the streamer who just provides content without managing the out-of-control children in the channel.

    Emote-spam and memes can often ruin the flow of a good chat channel so a lot of popular streamers discourage it, but amusingly enough if the channel started out small and grew slowly over time there's a chance that INITIALLY the spam was not a problem and a small team of mods could prevent outbursts. But if a stream explodes overnight the chat channel will typically be full of non-contributing immature anonymous dickwads who see a huge channel full of tens of thousands of viewers and recognize right away that they can go full jackass mode and get a reaction by "triggering chat". The channel's regulars become inundated by a wave of stupidity and a slew of them will leave, taking their mild-mannered attitude with them thus leaving behind an empty playground for internet dickwads to revel and caper about like they do when there's no one there to stop them.

    When this happens, it turns what was once a good chat channel into a fuckfest and because the streamer is often torn between repairing his or her broken chat or possibly losing thousands of viewers they just let it go. The mods, typically, by this point have either given up or quit or just plain can't deal with the increased traffic and the problem compounds itself.

    Some more popular channels put a stopper on this by instituting "sub-only chat mode" which obviously limits the contribution to that of paid viewers. This is great in theory, and for those of us who sub to channels we love sub-only mode because typically if you're paying you value the content and won't act like a dumbass... typically. Emphasis on typically. We all know there are people who think behaving like a jackass is worth $5 a month. On the other hand, this can alienate viewers who want to contribute but either don't want to sub or can't for one reason or another which isn't always because they couldn't get mom and dad to pay for it. Some channels may not allow international subscribers and there are a few countries where the ability to subscribe and pay electronically are limited or non-existent. Either way, a lot of streamers don't like to have their chat in sub-only mode all the time to not only encourage growth within their channel but to test the water and see what kind of viewers they have and what needs to be done to effectively moderate their channel. If you're in sub-only mode all the time and then you "free the plebs" and it turns into a warzone, well, you kinda did that to yourself.

    Twitch culture is unique. It can be hilarious or encouraging (see Bob Ross rebroadcast chat channel) and sometimes downright demoralizing (read chat in any Tyler1 or GreekGodx stream). The strange thing is when it permeates Twitch and becomes organic and you end up with some dickwad who can't disconnect from that environment and starts acting like his chat handle outside of the bounds of a Twitch stream. xQc apparently couldn't turn it off and showed the world what happens when an anonymous internet dickwad is rewarded with success and publicity. I mean, we all know what happens. But some people apparently, even in this day and age, are unaware.

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  • Twenty SidedTwenty Sided Registered User regular
    Skull2185 wrote: »
    This is a job, right? Like you get paid to play Overwatch?

    How can you be so dumb to mess that up?

    It's for competitive Overwatch. For a Winston main no less.

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  • UnluckyUnlucky That's not meant to happen Registered User regular
    If anyone would like a 4 minute video with some background to this comic,



    Helped clarify what this was all about enourmously for me.

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  • jwalkjwalk Registered User regular
    Kagera wrote: »
    I don’t get twitch chat 90% of the time it’s too fast to even read anything the rest of the time it’s just shitposting.

    Then again maybe internet chatting has always been like that and I am just too old to follow it anymore. That sucks.

    or not old enough to remember AOL chat rooms...?
    Kana wrote: »
    Pretty much everyone that knows xqc seems to agree that hes a nice dude in person, but also that hes a fucking moron who has spent way too much time talking to twitch chat.

    Can you really chalk it up to GIFT if they're not really anonymous though?

    Too many people still don't seem to think that what happens/they do on the internet is entirely 'real', even some who've grown up with it.

    One thing Twitch has shown us, is that there is no "IRL" any more. It's all "real". In game, streaming while in game, all of it "really" happens, and there are "real" consequences for our actions.

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