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Suggestions needed- space combat
FenriJames
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Alright, I recently gave Eve Online a try and while I couldn't get into it, it really gave me a jones for some ship on ship combat. I'm really looking for a game reminiscent of Homeworld 1 or 2, what with the big battleships and the small fighters and the pew pew.
Things I have played in this genre:
TIE Fighter
X-Wing V. TIE Fighter
Descent
Freespace 1/2
Independence War
Homeworld 1/2
Star Wars: Empire At War
There are probably some others but those are the highlights. I'm really, really wanting something like HW2 with updated mechanics/graphics if such a thing exists. I'd just play HW2 but I lost the disk, and if there's a newer version in the same vein I'd like to try it.
So, suggestions?
Things I have played in this genre:
TIE Fighter
X-Wing V. TIE Fighter
Descent
Freespace 1/2
Independence War
Homeworld 1/2
Star Wars: Empire At War
There are probably some others but those are the highlights. I'm really, really wanting something like HW2 with updated mechanics/graphics if such a thing exists. I'd just play HW2 but I lost the disk, and if there's a newer version in the same vein I'd like to try it.
So, suggestions?
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X3: Reunion is a similar game with much more depth, a steeper learning curve, and Steam availability. Make sure you've got a good fucking computer first, though.
Honestly, HW2 is probably as up to date as it gets in the space rts genre. I've heard good things about X3 and Nexus: The Jupiter Incident, but they're quite different. I know there was a new space rts with some sort of evolve mechanic that was released recently, but I'm not sure how it turned out. I'll let you know if I remember the name. Edit: Genesis Rising. From the sound of the reviews, it could have turned out better.
There's a thread about Allegiance, which looks interesting, but I haven't tried it out yet. It's free, which is never a bad price.
Now that you mention it, I actually tried X3 (computer handled it fine) but couldn't get into it. It felt like a MMO grind without any of the social interaction. Does it eventually evolve to fleet combat? I might try it again if it does.
Edit: I've heard so much about freelancer, I'm going to have to dig up more information about it.
You do have the option of building your entire fortune by killing enemies. I just wouldn't recommend it.
And if you finish that, there's a mod for X-Wing Alliance called TFTC that uses the XWA engine to make the TIE Fighter missions. It's really, really sweet.
Let 'em eat fucking pineapples!
The more recent Trek games all pretty much suck - they're effectively 2D, and each has choppier control than the last. Legacy has an effective Z axis unlike Encounters and Tactical Assault, but you can't pitch past vertical, and you can only get a short distance off the plane of play.
Spiritual successor to HW2.
Sins of a Solar Empire.
Look out for it early next year.
Also look out for an actual successor to HW2, which is Homeworld 3. Relic bought the Homeworld IP not long ago and have one unannounced title in the works, which we all know is HW3 the same way we all knew Bungie was doing Halo 3.
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How do I mine for lasers?
Big booms are nice.
X3 is boring to me, as I have no idea of what to do in it.
Fixed for me. I totally forgot I'd shelved X3 when it ran assy on my ATi 9800pro.
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Also, as somebody mentioned, we have an Allegiance thread up. It's probaly "the" best team space simulation game I've played.
There's two steps you need to do. You install the game, then the patch and run the starforce removal tool.
Star Wars Starfighter is really cool also.
The PC version still holds up pretty well graphically, and it features an awesome array of space and planet-based missions in which you get to control three different characters which all handle completely differently. IIRC one is the Naboo starfighter from the movie (all-rounder, proton torpedoes). Another is a heavy bomber that you use on some spectacular bombing missions, and the third is a nippy, ultra-maneuverable fighter that can tag enemy ships with homing bullets. Some of the later dogfights get amazingly hectic.
Would it be at all off-topic to ask what the general consensus is concerning the sequel, Jedi Starfighter?
For this reason I HATED freelancer. It played like shit with a joystick and mousing around a spaceship just isn't fun to me. I illogically blame that game for the death of the genre as well, even though I know that it was already on life support. I don't get why.
My poor MS sidewinder force feedback 2 is collecting dust. I love that joystick, and the best games it has ever playes are still Freespace 2 and Wing Commander Prophecy (my GOD I loved that games enemy ship designs and the swarmer missiles)
So many of the games release in that time period don't work anymore for me. I have yet to get Tachyon working (freaked the FUCK out with a force feedback controller), or Starlancer (wouldn't install on modern dirctx last I tried).
I miss the flightstick games. Where are my space combat epics? Where are my Giant Mech stomping parties?
X3 didn't impress me at all, I thought it had a pretty lousy space combat gameplay.
Independence War 2 was not as good as the original (the first one owed half of it's awesomeness to that incredible ship)
Any other suggestions? I need more. I wrote down Darkstar One and Darksace as things to check out. Also that battlestar pegasus mod thingy looked cool. Maybe a site about getting Starlancer to work? Does that still hold up graphically?
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But... you can't play multiplayer in bridge mode anyway? And I've found Kobayashi Maru prone to crashing a lot, no matter how many mods I turn off.
Nothing's forgotten, nothing is ever forgotten
But really, get it.
You'll need to use the throttle, rudder twist and an 8-way hat just to get full manoeuvrability out of your craft. Which is an endorsement in my book.
Good point, I never play in bridge mode either way, so never really paid attention if it worked in multiplayer or not. I've never had crash problems with Kobayashi, except with the Excalibur class starship - that thing's just goddamn huge and has more polygons than a fleet of normal sized ships, as soon as you add one of those to a battle, the frame rate bottoms out and memory usage skyrockets. Turning down graphics was enough if one of those is in the field.
That's the one thing I don't like about X3, the story arc.
It was fun. Go play it.
I always bemoaned the lack of bridge mode in multiplayer, because I feel that I should have the choice. I know the AI is useless, but I like the feeling of "being there", the environment of a Star Trek ship when under fire.</geek> But no, I don't have that option...
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I'm really looking forward to this game, because it isn't just a spiritual successor to HW2.
It's a full space based 4X, like MOO, but with Homeworld style combat.
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