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[Painting Miniatures] What colour is the best colour to paint your miniatures?
I foresee a new shade with every army release too to fill out the line. Seems neat but I think I'll stick to how I paint stuff now. Also aren't their official rattlecans like 20x the price of spraypaint? Is it any better? I feel like I get pretty smooth finishes with 1$ can's of white and black.
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StragintDo Not GiftAlways DeclinesRegistered Userregular
edited May 2019
What would be some good stuff to use for a graveyard looking base? I have some Frostgrave models I want to base and I can't really find a video that matches what I'm looking for.
Edit: And then I get a notification from the Xenus Mini youtube channel doing a base in the theme of what I want.
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I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
I foresee a new shade with every army release too to fill out the line. Seems neat but I think I'll stick to how I paint stuff now. Also aren't their official rattlecans like 20x the price of spraypaint? Is it any better? I feel like I get pretty smooth finishes with 1$ can's of white and black.
Their official cans are around $20 a piece (except the gold, which is around $30), which is batshit insane, but I have tried a few cheap cans and I have consistently gotten significantly better results from GW's paints. If I was going to be spraying 50 horde troop models black I'd get the cheaper can, but for anything else I just bite the bullet.
Everything I hear is that the real trick toward easy/cheap priming and basecoating is to invest in an airbrush though.
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StragintDo Not GiftAlways DeclinesRegistered Userregular
edited May 2019
Anyone know a site/product I can find on ebay that has grave stones I can add onto a 32mm base?
Edit: I'm doing an undead theme for my Gravestone warband so I got some skeletons and stuff but also models in armor. Would it be better to prime them in grey or do a bone colored primer?
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What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
Anyone know a site/product I can find on ebay that has grave stones I can add onto a 32mm base?
Edit: I'm doing an undead theme for my Gravestone warband so I got some skeletons and stuff but also models in armor. Would it be better to prime them in grey or do a bone colored primer?
Renedra has some stuff.
edit: greenstuffworld too.
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Dr_KeenbeanDumb as a buttPlanet Express ShipRegistered Userregular
edited May 2019
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In other fun news, I'm starting to notice my eyesight going so that's cool for trying to paint tiny things.
I foresee a new shade with every army release too to fill out the line. Seems neat but I think I'll stick to how I paint stuff now. Also aren't their official rattlecans like 20x the price of spraypaint? Is it any better? I feel like I get pretty smooth finishes with 1$ can's of white and black.
Their official cans are around $20 a piece (except the gold, which is around $30), which is batshit insane, but I have tried a few cheap cans and I have consistently gotten significantly better results from GW's paints. If I was going to be spraying 50 horde troop models black I'd get the cheaper can, but for anything else I just bite the bullet.
Everything I hear is that the real trick toward easy/cheap priming and basecoating is to invest in an airbrush though.
So for my ork army that I'm working on... I airbrush basecoated 30 ork boys (converted from AOS kits, so primaries scale) and 20 grots with like a tenth of a ten dollar bottle of Vallejo grey surface primer in about an hour and they look great.
In other fun news, I'm starting to notice my eyesight going so that's cool for trying to paint tiny things.
Welcome to the club! Its a sad club. :bigfrown:
Oh hey, this has started happening to me during the past month. Fortunately it's not affecting my ability to see mini details up close, but reading (especially on a screen) is getting problematic
I've always been short sighted, but this feels different, so probably astigmatism.
My Throwers are finished sitting for their glamour shots and I'm ready to set up my Tomb Guardians to take photos of the last of my team tonight. The Throwers were the simplest conversions to make; they're just Reaper minis with a few hand swaps. I'm particularly happy with the one on the left, whom I've deemed Queen Nephvercheeti.
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NipsHe/HimLuxuriating in existential crisis.Registered Userregular
Apparently reaper minis stuff doesn't need a coat of prime. Should I prime anyway?
Talking about Reaper Bones: You don't have to prime it, but you can, BUT not all primers behave the same on them; some [edit: aerosol cans] have trouble drying, and remain tacky, which is not ideal.
I've had no problems airbrushing VSP onto my Bones figs, and I've also sprayed thinned VMC and VGC onto them directly for test models. It all seems to work out the same when you use an airbrush.
There used to be a post on Reaper's forums about primers, let me see if I can find it.
One of my throwers is actually a Reaper Bones mini, and I spray-primed him with Army Painter leather brown, like I usually do for the rest of my minis. It ultimately worked out fine for me, but it did take on a slightly different texture and I can see why Reaper recommends skipping the primer altogether (it became glossy and very slightly tacky in places). I have previously painted a Bones mini without priming it at all and it worked fine.
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NipsHe/HimLuxuriating in existential crisis.Registered Userregular
I foresee a new shade with every army release too to fill out the line. Seems neat but I think I'll stick to how I paint stuff now. Also aren't their official rattlecans like 20x the price of spraypaint? Is it any better? I feel like I get pretty smooth finishes with 1$ can's of white and black.
Their official cans are around $20 a piece (except the gold, which is around $30), which is batshit insane, but I have tried a few cheap cans and I have consistently gotten significantly better results from GW's paints. If I was going to be spraying 50 horde troop models black I'd get the cheaper can, but for anything else I just bite the bullet.
Everything I hear is that the real trick toward easy/cheap priming and basecoating is to invest in an airbrush though.
Yes. I haven't touched a rattle can since I got my airbrush. It took me some time and experimentation to figure out how to lay a perfect coat on a model every time. It's time well spent and the quality of prime and base coat you'll get is worth the price of entry. That's before you learn to do other cool things with an airbrush like blending and soft highlights.
StragintDo Not GiftAlways DeclinesRegistered Userregular
More slight progress on a squad of Space Wolves. I really should finish them this weekend.
Based my warband. Gonna prime them using VSP bone. The dude with the scythe is really annoying. The scythe keeps bending down toward the head. Tried heating it up and adjusting it but it wont hold.
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What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
Sometimes with plastic that keeps warping back I just resort to cutting the piece and adjusting it by trimming. Although I wonder if it would be possible to work in a supporting wire somehow, and sell it as part of the scythe, or one of the ribbons/ropes draping down from it.
I foresee a new shade with every army release too to fill out the line. Seems neat but I think I'll stick to how I paint stuff now. Also aren't their official rattlecans like 20x the price of spraypaint? Is it any better? I feel like I get pretty smooth finishes with 1$ can's of white and black.
Their official cans are around $20 a piece (except the gold, which is around $30), which is batshit insane, but I have tried a few cheap cans and I have consistently gotten significantly better results from GW's paints. If I was going to be spraying 50 horde troop models black I'd get the cheaper can, but for anything else I just bite the bullet.
Everything I hear is that the real trick toward easy/cheap priming and basecoating is to invest in an airbrush though.
Yes. I haven't touched a rattle can since I got my airbrush. It took me some time and experimentation to figure out how to lay a perfect coat on a model every time. It's time well spent and the quality of prime and base coat you'll get is worth the price of entry. That's before you learn to do other kill things with an airbrush like blending and soft highlights.
It is how the cans and why i have not painted the AdptC because of so much gold it's why i have been looking at airbrushes
valhalla13013 Dark Shield Perceives the GodsRegistered Userregular
edited May 2019
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Working on this guy right here. He'll be my first finished primaris marine. My... standard bearer, if you will.
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StragintDo Not GiftAlways DeclinesRegistered Userregular
edited May 2019
I'm gonna finish those Space Wolves I took a picture of tomorrow. Maybe even the one I have setup for sub assembly that I've primed, based, and did a recess wash on.
Not really sure what to paint the warand. I primed them skeleton bone and painted the base mechanicus grey. Gotta figure out where to go from there.
I think I'm gonna try to do a nighthaunt thing. Black robes at the top with hexwraith flame at the bottom and green highlights.
Not sure what to do on the ones with armor though.
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What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
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valhalla13013 Dark Shield Perceives the GodsRegistered Userregular
edited May 2019
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I don't know what to do. When I put the Astronomican Grey on the giant circle in the middle of my banner, it goes on nice and smooth. Once i try to apply white, Ceramite White, to it, it is just streaky and has little gnarls or bumps where paint particles clumped together.
All I can think of is just to take a knife and scrape it all down to bare plastic, and start over with Surface Primer.
EDIT: I tried again and it somewhat worked and I'm calling it good even though I can still detect flaws. I need a couple more colors from home, so I'll finish it and post it tomorrow night. Plus I want to buy the grey basing paint form the FLGS tomorrow.
Ceramite White is notorious for being a crappy clumpy white. I’d go with Vallejo or P3 for whites, they seem a lot smoother. Alternatively, thin the ceramite down a bit with some white ink and do a couple very thin coats.
In other fun news, I'm starting to notice my eyesight going so that's cool for trying to paint tiny things.
Welcome to the club! Its a sad club. :bigfrown:
Oh hey, this has started happening to me during the past month. Fortunately it's not affecting my ability to see mini details up close, but reading (especially on a screen) is getting problematic
I've always been short sighted, but this feels different, so probably astigmatism.
At -8.00 with a reasonable cyl on top, I actually find it difficult to use my glasses for painting. I usually take them off, but hold the minis like, inches from my eyes.
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Dr_KeenbeanDumb as a buttPlanet Express ShipRegistered Userregular
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Can confirm: P3 Morrow White is probably the best commonly-available white paint.
@Badablack 's suggestion of thinning with white artist's ink is a good one too. They are shocking opaque.
StragintDo Not GiftAlways DeclinesRegistered Userregular
edited May 2019
Tried to do a different kind of airbrush paint style. Tried one with hexwraith flame painted on first and then doing a top down airbrush of incubi darkness. I wasn't really into it. I then airbrushed incubi darkness top down and then did hexwraith flame at various angles and around the base of the model. I liked it more but I need to do a ton of touch up.
Not sure how I feel about this. Gonna finish it first before I decide whether to do my whole warband that way or not.
The plan right now is to paint the scale armor at the front probably a dark bronze, paint the sword, put mechanicus standard gray on the base again, do a nuln oil wash on the base and mix in some hexwraith flame while it is wet and spread that around the base on the model and then drybrush the rest of the mechanicus standard gray showing and call it done.
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What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
What I meant about not fully understanding the new contrast paints is the rumored/off hand comments about the primer as Stragint said do they work with the current ones or are they only for the new ones?
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StragintDo Not GiftAlways DeclinesRegistered Userregular
What I meant about not fully understanding the new contrast paints is the rumored/off hand comments about the primer as Stragint said do they work with the current ones or are they only for the new ones?
It has been sounding like the primer is a kind of gloss primer so the current primer I have probably wont work well with the contrast.
PSN: Reaper_Stragint, Steam: DoublePitstoChesty
What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
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Dr_KeenbeanDumb as a buttPlanet Express ShipRegistered Userregular
edited May 2019
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From the video I saw the primer looks a lot, if not exactly, like this. It's not glossy, it's just very smooth so thinned paint slides right off it. It's ideal for a goopy paint with with lower opacity to flow into and darken recesses while tinting raised areas.
So basically exactly this.
EDIT: a little over a year ago I came up with a way to leverage the smoothness of the primer to speed paint some Legion minis. I don't remember the exact ratios I used but the end result was a semi-transparent paint/wash hybrid that did 75% of the work for me and didn't get splotchy like wash would have. I took a picture so I would remember the additives used along with the results. It never even occurred to me to try it with a different color but the theory is sound:
As excited as I am for Contrast, I'm less excited for using their primer. You can't ship GW aerosol cans via Canada post so my local game shop can't get them in, meaning driving an hour and a half to get to a GW shop that carries their aerosols, or paying a ton of shipping each time I need a can.
Hopefully the internet hive mind finds a cheap airbrush friendly alternative quickly, cuz I neeeeeed those contrast paints.
As excited as I am for Contrast, I'm less excited for using their primer. You can't ship GW aerosol cans via Canada post so my local game shop can't get them in, meaning driving an hour and a half to get to a GW shop that carries their aerosols, or paying a ton of shipping each time I need a can.
Hopefully the internet hive mind finds a cheap airbrush friendly alternative quickly, cuz I neeeeeed those contrast paints.
Just grab a regular jar and thin it down with airbrush flow improver? I doubt there will be colors that are spray can only, unless I missed an announcement.
StragintDo Not GiftAlways DeclinesRegistered Userregular
edited May 2019
Finished the first model for testing the paint scheme for my Frostgrave warband. I kind of like it but I feel like it is missing something.
Edit: Talked to my friend about the model. Decided I am gonna the green shade paint on the white highlights and maybe find a color to highlight to face for a more ethereal look. Not sure which one though.
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What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
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valhalla13013 Dark Shield Perceives the GodsRegistered Userregular
edited May 2019
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I'm trying this base for my new Primaris. I think if I keep it, I'll base my devastators and scouts this way. Most of my old tactical marines won't get updated because I can't see me using them anymore (poor guys!). This is Astrogranite Debris with a Drakenhof Nightshade wash and a drybrush of Longbeard grey. I was using Stirland Battlemire for a muddy look on the old marines.
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I plan to use Nurgle's Rot in the little pools to look like some kind of toxic sludge.
As excited as I am for Contrast, I'm less excited for using their primer. You can't ship GW aerosol cans via Canada post so my local game shop can't get them in, meaning driving an hour and a half to get to a GW shop that carries their aerosols, or paying a ton of shipping each time I need a can.
Hopefully the internet hive mind finds a cheap airbrush friendly alternative quickly, cuz I neeeeeed those contrast paints.
Just grab a regular jar and thin it down with airbrush flow improver? I doubt there will be colors that are spray can only, unless I missed an announcement.
A jar? Are they releasing that wraithbone primer in a pot as well as the aerosol can?
Part of me is going to wait and see as I know they will have a bunch of demos on youtube with battle ready armies just to show off the color range and explain it to those that could not attend it
As excited as I am for Contrast, I'm less excited for using their primer. You can't ship GW aerosol cans via Canada post so my local game shop can't get them in, meaning driving an hour and a half to get to a GW shop that carries their aerosols, or paying a ton of shipping each time I need a can.
Hopefully the internet hive mind finds a cheap airbrush friendly alternative quickly, cuz I neeeeeed those contrast paints.
Just grab a regular jar and thin it down with airbrush flow improver? I doubt there will be colors that are spray can only, unless I missed an announcement.
The system requires a "magic" primer (only in rattlecan) + the actual paint (only in pots). So no color is spray only (or, indeed, spray at all), but you have to use a spray.
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It's a combination basecoat and wash that only needs a single coat.
My guess is that it has a fairly low viscosity (for a smoother flow) but has a fuckload of pigment (for solid coverage with a single coat).
Edit: And then I get a notification from the Xenus Mini youtube channel doing a base in the theme of what I want.
What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
Their official cans are around $20 a piece (except the gold, which is around $30), which is batshit insane, but I have tried a few cheap cans and I have consistently gotten significantly better results from GW's paints. If I was going to be spraying 50 horde troop models black I'd get the cheaper can, but for anything else I just bite the bullet.
Everything I hear is that the real trick toward easy/cheap priming and basecoating is to invest in an airbrush though.
Edit: I'm doing an undead theme for my Gravestone warband so I got some skeletons and stuff but also models in armor. Would it be better to prime them in grey or do a bone colored primer?
What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
Renedra has some stuff.
edit: greenstuffworld too.
In other fun news, I'm starting to notice my eyesight going so that's cool for trying to paint tiny things.
3DS: 1650-8480-6786
Switch: SW-0653-8208-4705
What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
So for my ork army that I'm working on... I airbrush basecoated 30 ork boys (converted from AOS kits, so primaries scale) and 20 grots with like a tenth of a ten dollar bottle of Vallejo grey surface primer in about an hour and they look great.
Gamertag - Khraul
PSN - Razide6
3DS: 1650-8480-6786
Switch: SW-0653-8208-4705
Welcome to the club! Its a sad club. :bigfrown:
How did you do the disruptive pattern on those cloaks? I just ordered stencils so I could finally get it to look right on my scouts and eliminators.
Oh hey, this has started happening to me during the past month. Fortunately it's not affecting my ability to see mini details up close, but reading (especially on a screen) is getting problematic
I've always been short sighted, but this feels different, so probably astigmatism.
Talking about Reaper Bones: You don't have to prime it, but you can, BUT not all primers behave the same on them; some [edit: aerosol cans] have trouble drying, and remain tacky, which is not ideal.
I've had no problems airbrushing VSP onto my Bones figs, and I've also sprayed thinned VMC and VGC onto them directly for test models. It all seems to work out the same when you use an airbrush.
There used to be a post on Reaper's forums about primers, let me see if I can find it.
https://forum.reapermini.com/index.php?/topic/48669-bones-the-first-coat-is-the-difference/
Yes. I haven't touched a rattle can since I got my airbrush. It took me some time and experimentation to figure out how to lay a perfect coat on a model every time. It's time well spent and the quality of prime and base coat you'll get is worth the price of entry. That's before you learn to do other cool things with an airbrush like blending and soft highlights.
Based my warband. Gonna prime them using VSP bone. The dude with the scythe is really annoying. The scythe keeps bending down toward the head. Tried heating it up and adjusting it but it wont hold.
What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
It is how the cans and why i have not painted the AdptC because of so much gold it's why i have been looking at airbrushes
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Not really sure what to paint the warand. I primed them skeleton bone and painted the base mechanicus grey. Gotta figure out where to go from there.
I think I'm gonna try to do a nighthaunt thing. Black robes at the top with hexwraith flame at the bottom and green highlights.
Not sure what to do on the ones with armor though.
What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
All I can think of is just to take a knife and scrape it all down to bare plastic, and start over with Surface Primer.
EDIT: I tried again and it somewhat worked and I'm calling it good even though I can still detect flaws. I need a couple more colors from home, so I'll finish it and post it tomorrow night. Plus I want to buy the grey basing paint form the FLGS tomorrow.
At -8.00 with a reasonable cyl on top, I actually find it difficult to use my glasses for painting. I usually take them off, but hold the minis like, inches from my eyes.
@Badablack 's suggestion of thinning with white artist's ink is a good one too. They are shocking opaque.
3DS: 1650-8480-6786
Switch: SW-0653-8208-4705
Not sure how I feel about this. Gonna finish it first before I decide whether to do my whole warband that way or not.
The plan right now is to paint the scale armor at the front probably a dark bronze, paint the sword, put mechanicus standard gray on the base again, do a nuln oil wash on the base and mix in some hexwraith flame while it is wet and spread that around the base on the model and then drybrush the rest of the mechanicus standard gray showing and call it done.
What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
It has been sounding like the primer is a kind of gloss primer so the current primer I have probably wont work well with the contrast.
What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
So basically exactly this.
EDIT: a little over a year ago I came up with a way to leverage the smoothness of the primer to speed paint some Legion minis. I don't remember the exact ratios I used but the end result was a semi-transparent paint/wash hybrid that did 75% of the work for me and didn't get splotchy like wash would have. I took a picture so I would remember the additives used along with the results. It never even occurred to me to try it with a different color but the theory is sound:
3DS: 1650-8480-6786
Switch: SW-0653-8208-4705
Hopefully the internet hive mind finds a cheap airbrush friendly alternative quickly, cuz I neeeeeed those contrast paints.
Gamertag - Khraul
PSN - Razide6
Just grab a regular jar and thin it down with airbrush flow improver? I doubt there will be colors that are spray can only, unless I missed an announcement.
Edit: Talked to my friend about the model. Decided I am gonna the green shade paint on the white highlights and maybe find a color to highlight to face for a more ethereal look. Not sure which one though.
What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
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I plan to use Nurgle's Rot in the little pools to look like some kind of toxic sludge.
A jar? Are they releasing that wraithbone primer in a pot as well as the aerosol can?
Gamertag - Khraul
PSN - Razide6
The system requires a "magic" primer (only in rattlecan) + the actual paint (only in pots). So no color is spray only (or, indeed, spray at all), but you have to use a spray.