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Man I don't know what summoned it, but one of the Meme pages I follow on Facebook literally just started posting a punch of Elon Musk (and PewdiePie but thats a separate issue) stuff with his tweets and like "#gottchadumbjournos" and they started showing up literally the minute after I posted in this thread. Anyway I had to unfollow them because it was too much.
I still don’t know why Elon Musk is so focused on mars when we should at least get to the moon first.
Nah. Even NASA has shifted their focus. Mars has actual potential for long term colonization and resources. Since there's water, an atmosphere, and stronger gravity, colonies could, theoretically, expand over time. The best the moon has to offer is maybe a jumping off point.
Also moon dust is horrifying.
I'm sure there's nothing about using lunar regolith in the military prohibitions against chemical attacks!
I still don’t know why Elon Musk is so focused on mars when we should at least get to the moon first.
Nah. Even NASA has shifted their focus. Mars has actual potential for long term colonization and resources. Since there's water, an atmosphere, and stronger gravity, colonies could, theoretically, expand over time. The best the moon has to offer is maybe a jumping off point.
Also moon dust is horrifying.
Mars is literally toxic so
Eh, the perchlorate issue would be solved with terraforming, and the idea with settling Mars is that it would eventually be terraformed. There are multiple species of bacteria and archaea on Earth that metabolize perchlorates, releasing O2 as a waste product, so introducing them would be an important early step in the terraforming process.
But if we want to talk about this some more, probably should go in the Space Exploration thread.
Unless I'm reading that thread wrong because I don't twitter often. He seems to be replying to the above comment that powerful people aren't likely to support the press. Which he apparently finds odd because large media companies are often owned by powerful people with an agenda to push. Rupert Murdock and Fox News being a good example of this. Or Jeff Bezos and his purchase of the Washington Post.
I still don’t know why Elon Musk is so focused on mars when we should at least get to the moon first.
Nah. Even NASA has shifted their focus. Mars has actual potential for long term colonization and resources. Since there's water, an atmosphere, and stronger gravity, colonies could, theoretically, expand over time. The best the moon has to offer is maybe a jumping off point.
Also moon dust is horrifying.
Mars is literally toxic so
Eh, the perchlorate issue would be solved with terraforming, and the idea with settling Mars is that it would eventually be terraformed. There are multiple species of bacteria and archaea on Earth that metabolize perchlorates, releasing O2 as a waste product, so introducing them would be an important early step in the terraforming process.
But if we want to talk about this some more, probably should go in the Space Exploration thread.
I thought terraforming was a fictional idea, since if anyone had completed that the first place we'd need to do that with is Earth. And it'd be all over the news.
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I'm just sad that Starlink is the name of the first indie game I ever published, like 10 years ago, and now the name has been sullied.
I still don’t know why Elon Musk is so focused on mars when we should at least get to the moon first.
Nah. Even NASA has shifted their focus. Mars has actual potential for long term colonization and resources. Since there's water, an atmosphere, and stronger gravity, colonies could, theoretically, expand over time. The best the moon has to offer is maybe a jumping off point.
Also moon dust is horrifying.
I'm sure there's nothing about using lunar regolith in the military prohibitions against chemical attacks!
The funniest thing about it is even if he's not being anti-semitic, which is long odds, he's a rich billionaire media starfucker complaining that other people exactly like him own media outlets.
And all of the nazis are crawling out of the woodwork to celebrate
This tweet was an answer to
Do you think it's in the interest of powerful people to A: support a free press that exposes their lies, or B: tear it down so their lies are easier to tell? Now ask yourself why the polls would look bad.
Which doesn't make it look sinister, so let's just cut that part out, I guess?
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I think a pretty good contrast to Elon Musk would be someone like James Dyson, who basically went out of their way to be able to just screw around in the lab after they made their money.
The funniest thing about it is even if he's not being anti-semitic, which is long odds, he's a rich billionaire media starfucker complaining that other people exactly like him own media outlets.
Guys like Musk don’t usually like to come out and saythat though
They just dogwhistle and then when they get called on it they pretend they meant something else
You gotta consider the fact that he's really dumb.
Where the hell is this coming from? I'll eat my hat if he comes out and says it, but you're drawing a pretty obtuse line from a complaint about media ownership to "obviously he hates Jews".
Complaints about media ownership in that manner very often ends the train of thought that way. Put it this way: It may not even be what Elon means at all, but it is common enough that Nazis almost certainly now think he's one of them.
The funniest thing about it is even if he's not being anti-semitic, which is long odds, he's a rich billionaire media starfucker complaining that other people exactly like him own media outlets.
Guys like Musk don’t usually like to come out and saythat though
They just dogwhistle and then when they get called on it they pretend they meant something else
You gotta consider the fact that he's really dumb.
Where the hell is this coming from? I'll eat my hat if he comes out and says it, but you're drawing a pretty obtuse line from a complaint about media ownership to "obviously he hates Jews".
Complaints about media ownership in that manner very often ends the train of thought that way. Put it this way: It may not even be what Elon means at all, but it is common enough that Nazis almost certainly now think he's one of them.
The hilarious thing is attacking the press when the press has given him tons of fawning articles they would not give traditional car manufacturers vastly larger than his company.
If we're being charitable, Elon is merely an inexcusable fool and honestly doesn't know that the whistle he just blew into is a dog whistle, even though it says Dog Whistle on the side of the whistle and he picked it up from a table that said "Free Dog Whistles" and the guy manning the table was a nazi. That's if we're being charitable.
Check the replies to Musk's tweet. Or don't, if you are not in the mood to see an endless stream of celebratory anti-semitic memes and earnestly posted literal nazi propaganda.
Don't say things that require context and interpretation in order to not be the exact kind of thing a nazi says.
It is a direct reply, the "required context" is literally the very question to the answer he's giving.
"Do you think powerful people want strong or weak press?"
"who do you thinks controls the press anyways?"
"OMG he must be talking about jews!"
No, he's talking about what he's directly replying to, powerful entities like the Sinclair Corporations of the world.
I feel like this is almost kinda proving his stupid point here? People want to jump on him, so it pretty much doesn't matter what he says, something horrible will be constructed out of it.
The guy does plenty of things worthy of good, strong criticism without grasping at the flimsiest of straws.
I think it's understandable to be jumpy when a statement like that is read out of context, so I don't blame anyone from coming to that conclusion, which is why posting it everywhere like we've been doing is only being counterproductive. It actually helps the alt-right, since it gives them a well known, well-respected flagbearer, even if he isn't.
The Hollywood Reporter in particular has been paparazzi'ing into Stan Lee's personal life pretty hard, and has been extremely dogged in their narrative that Stan Lee is a doddering old man who can't think or act for himself. If I were him, I'd be pretty pissed too.
Labor exploiting business man with a company that struggled to stay on track long term taking personal credit for the work of others and attacking any critic as a liar who gets by on a cult of personality built on a fan perception built more on legend than reality.
They're basically the same person, except Lee's company made picture books about the stuff Musk's company actually makes.
Stan Lee has also managed to not be quite so publicly distasteful, even if things that come out about him are often same-but-smaller.
If you say something that nazis say all the time and it garners the applause and adoration of literal nazis, but you didn't mean it that way, it is your minimum responsibility to maybe say something to shut them down, clarify your position, and speak more clearly in the future.
I think it's understandable to be jumpy when a statement like that is read out of context, so I don't blame anyone from coming to that conclusion, which is why posting it everywhere like we've been doing is only being counterproductive. It actually helps the alt-right, since it gives them a well known, well-respected flagbearer, even if he isn't.
So don't post shit out of context, please.
If you feel a quote lacks context, you can provide some, or ask for some. If you feel a post is out of bounds in some way, you can report it.
I still don’t know why Elon Musk is so focused on mars when we should at least get to the moon first.
Nah. Even NASA has shifted their focus. Mars has actual potential for long term colonization and resources. Since there's water, an atmosphere, and stronger gravity, colonies could, theoretically, expand over time. The best the moon has to offer is maybe a jumping off point.
Also moon dust is horrifying.
Mars is literally toxic so
Eh, the perchlorate issue would be solved with terraforming, and the idea with settling Mars is that it would eventually be terraformed. There are multiple species of bacteria and archaea on Earth that metabolize perchlorates, releasing O2 as a waste product, so introducing them would be an important early step in the terraforming process.
But if we want to talk about this some more, probably should go in the Space Exploration thread.
I thought terraforming was a fictional idea, since if anyone had completed that the first place we'd need to do that with is Earth. And it'd be all over the news.
Yeah, what species of bipedal apes would be dumb enough to dump a catastrophic amount of CO2 into their planet's atmosphere for a lark.
They'd get laughed out of the galactic council. :P
If you say something that nazis say all the time and it garners the applause and adoration of literal nazis, but you didn't mean it that way, it is your minimum responsibility to maybe say something to shut them down, clarify your position, and speak more clearly in the future.
the only way to get more in context would be to literally quote the guy in his own post. maybe he should do that next time.
If you say something that nazis say all the time and it garners the applause and adoration of literal nazis, but you didn't mean it that way, it is your minimum responsibility to maybe say something to shut them down, clarify your position, and speak more clearly in the future.
the only way to get more in context would be to literally quote the guy in his own post. maybe he should do that next time.
The problem is that the context doesn't even really save him anyway. What he posted was a conspiratorial open ended question in a poisoned language that everyone knows - the "who controls the media" whistle only plays one song. Look at the replies! The proof that he blew the whistle is in all the rabid dogs that showed up!
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Eh, the perchlorate issue would be solved with terraforming, and the idea with settling Mars is that it would eventually be terraformed. There are multiple species of bacteria and archaea on Earth that metabolize perchlorates, releasing O2 as a waste product, so introducing them would be an important early step in the terraforming process.
But if we want to talk about this some more, probably should go in the Space Exploration thread.
Rupert Murdoch?
And all of the nazis are crawling out of the woodwork to celebrate
I thought terraforming was a fictional idea, since if anyone had completed that the first place we'd need to do that with is Earth. And it'd be all over the news.
I am also known as Vontre.
Turns out, ground up moon rocks are pure poison.
You can't give someone a pirate ship in one game, and then take it back in the next game. It's rude.
"The Jews" is a bet that pays out more often then not.
They just dogwhistle and then when they get called on it they pretend they meant something else
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
You gotta consider the fact that he's really dumb.
I pretty much avoid all news about Musk and stuff but what's this?
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
This tweet was an answer to
Which doesn't make it look sinister, so let's just cut that part out, I guess?
Complaints about media ownership in that manner very often ends the train of thought that way. Put it this way: It may not even be what Elon means at all, but it is common enough that Nazis almost certainly now think he's one of them.
It's literally the twitter post above..
Check the replies to Musk's tweet. Or don't, if you are not in the mood to see an endless stream of celebratory anti-semitic memes and earnestly posted literal nazi propaganda.
It is a direct reply, the "required context" is literally the very question to the answer he's giving.
"Do you think powerful people want strong or weak press?"
"who do you thinks controls the press anyways?"
"OMG he must be talking about jews!"
No, he's talking about what he's directly replying to, powerful entities like the Sinclair Corporations of the world.
I feel like this is almost kinda proving his stupid point here? People want to jump on him, so it pretty much doesn't matter what he says, something horrible will be constructed out of it.
The guy does plenty of things worthy of good, strong criticism without grasping at the flimsiest of straws.
So don't post shit out of context, please.
The Hollywood Reporter in particular has been paparazzi'ing into Stan Lee's personal life pretty hard, and has been extremely dogged in their narrative that Stan Lee is a doddering old man who can't think or act for himself. If I were him, I'd be pretty pissed too.
Labor exploiting business man with a company that struggled to stay on track long term taking personal credit for the work of others and attacking any critic as a liar who gets by on a cult of personality built on a fan perception built more on legend than reality.
They're basically the same person, except Lee's company made picture books about the stuff Musk's company actually makes.
Stan Lee has also managed to not be quite so publicly distasteful, even if things that come out about him are often same-but-smaller.
Also, libel and slander laws exist.
If you feel a quote lacks context, you can provide some, or ask for some. If you feel a post is out of bounds in some way, you can report it.
Please don’t tell other people what to post.
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They'd get laughed out of the galactic council. :P
the only way to get more in context would be to literally quote the guy in his own post. maybe he should do that next time.
The problem is that the context doesn't even really save him anyway. What he posted was a conspiratorial open ended question in a poisoned language that everyone knows - the "who controls the media" whistle only plays one song. Look at the replies! The proof that he blew the whistle is in all the rabid dogs that showed up!