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    King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    Anyone watching Cloak and Dagger?

    Its starting real slow but its ok so far.

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    I watched the first episode, definitely seems promising.

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    Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    edited June 2018
    So I’ve been watching a lot of Friends lately, which I had never really seen

    I’m pleasantly surprised to find it’s a really solid sitcom, I was not expecting as much cleverness as there is here, and sure it can get a little corny at times when they go for actual emotion, but for the most part I really enjoy it

    Every time the 90s emerges in full force in the show is a little jarring, though

    They spent a lot of money on REM songs

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    Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    friends rules

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    JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    AtomicTofu wrote: »

    Holy shit. I thought for sure it was toast, but it turns out that Neil Gaiman doesn't just PLAY God on the show.

    Wait, is this the actual Vertigo version of Lucifer? Last I heard it was a pretty bad show about the devil solving mysteries in LA. Am I thinking of something else?

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    AistanAistan Tiny Bat Registered User regular
    No it's a pretty good show about the devil solving mysteries in LA.

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    Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    it's a very good show about the devil solving crimes in l.a., actually

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    DracomicronDracomicron Registered User regular
    Jedoc wrote: »
    AtomicTofu wrote: »

    Holy shit. I thought for sure it was toast, but it turns out that Neil Gaiman doesn't just PLAY God on the show.

    Wait, is this the actual Vertigo version of Lucifer? Last I heard it was a pretty bad show about the devil solving mysteries in LA. Am I thinking of something else?

    It is loosely based on the comic. Mostly just some characters in common. It is a very formulaic supernatural procedural in the vein of iZombie. While some episodes aren't fantastic, it is actually a very well thought out show with its heart in the right place.

    Plus, the title character is unapologetically bi, and it's no big thing for anyone. Points for representation?

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    Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    aistan

    my nemesis

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    I don't know if you get points for representation when your character is literally satan.

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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    I still haven't watched Lucifer, even though I am pretty sure I would enjoy it, due at least partially to how terrible the lead dude looks for the role

    Also a deep love for the comics on which it's allegedly based, but mostly because they made the fucking lightbringer a brunet

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    Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Unsurprisingly, I think his statement sucks ass

    Outright denial of any wrong doing, trying to focus on her infidelity and taking a "high ground" when she tried to get back with him and the tired as shit AS A BROTHER AND HUSBAND I LOVE WOMEN bullshit

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    I don't know if you get points for representation when your character is literally satan.
    I'm pretty sure the whole show is built around him not being outright evil and having a redemptive arc, though?

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    Yeah but I mean

    He's Satan. Of course he's bisexual. If Fred Phelps wrote a show about Satan, he'd make Satan bisexual. Making a symbol of depravity and sin bisexual isn't super PC, it's a standard trope.

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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    Yeah, I don't think Lucifer is going for a negative portrayal of bisexuality in their choice to make Lucifer bisexual

    But I don't fully want to give them credit for it either

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    MalReynoldsMalReynolds The Hunter S Thompson of incredibly mild medicines Registered User regular
    Constantine on Legends of Tomorrow is bi and it's

    A: refreshing

    And

    B: he absolutely rules on that show and it's relatively nice to have that kind of representation on the show. Not that I could ever be a Constantine type, but having such a kick ass bi character is nice. The show is already pretty queer friendly with the leader of the team being bi, too.

    And he's gonna be a regular in S4, and I can't wait.

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    A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    I miss the Constantine show. Just, perfect casting

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    MalReynoldsMalReynolds The Hunter S Thompson of incredibly mild medicines Registered User regular
    I miss the Constantine show. Just, perfect casting

    Same actor for the DC shows, oddly enough.

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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    Matt Ryan does a pretty good Constantine, but I feel like he's not miserable enough sometimes

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    ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    Eleanor on The Good Place is another nice bi character.

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    Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    is eleanor bi or is she just into tahani, like every human being should be

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    Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    because i am very upset there was no good eleanor/bad elanor hookup

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    shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    Mr. G wrote: »
    So I’ve been watching a lot of Friends lately, which I had never really seen

    I’m pleasantly surprised to find it’s a really solid sitcom, I was not expecting as much cleverness as there is here, and sure it can get a little corny at times when they go for actual emotion, but for the most part I really enjoy it

    Every time the 90s emerges in full force in the show is a little jarring, though

    They spent a lot of money on REM songs

    Friends holds up pretty well except for Ross. Ross is the "nice guy" trope times one million.

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    ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    Mr. G wrote: »
    So I’ve been watching a lot of Friends lately, which I had never really seen

    I’m pleasantly surprised to find it’s a really solid sitcom, I was not expecting as much cleverness as there is here, and sure it can get a little corny at times when they go for actual emotion, but for the most part I really enjoy it

    Every time the 90s emerges in full force in the show is a little jarring, though

    They spent a lot of money on REM songs

    Friends holds up pretty well except for Ross. Ross is the "nice guy" trope times one million.

    Ehh...

    Ross is a thousand times better than Ted Mosby.

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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    Two things can be bad

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    ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    edited June 2018
    Ross in the first two seasons is insufferable.

    Once he turns into an insane person he becomes the best character on the show.

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    TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    Jedoc wrote: »
    AtomicTofu wrote: »

    Holy shit. I thought for sure it was toast, but it turns out that Neil Gaiman doesn't just PLAY God on the show.

    Wait, is this the actual Vertigo version of Lucifer? Last I heard it was a pretty bad show about the devil solving mysteries in LA. Am I thinking of something else?

    It is loosely based on the comic. Mostly just some characters in common. It is a very formulaic supernatural procedural in the vein of iZombie. While some episodes aren't fantastic, it is actually a very well thought out show with its heart in the right place.

    Plus, the title character is unapologetically bi, and it's no big thing for anyone. Points for representation?

    The episode with Dr. Linda's ex husband was really fucking good.

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    because i am very upset there was no good eleanor/bad elanor hookup

    Vicki was such a good character

    they definitely should have hooked up

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    A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    I miss the Constantine show. Just, perfect casting

    Same actor for the DC shows, oddly enough.

    Yeah I was glad to see him join legends.

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    DracomicronDracomicron Registered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    Yeah but I mean

    He's Satan. Of course he's bisexual. If Fred Phelps wrote a show about Satan, he'd make Satan bisexual. Making a symbol of depravity and sin bisexual isn't super PC, it's a standard trope.

    That would be true if the point of the show was that Lucifer isn't actually the symbol of depravity everyone thinks he is.

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    TubeTube Registered User admin
    I guess after the six episodes I watched he does something more than spout double entendres and use his magic roofie powers to fuck people.

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    TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    Yeah but I mean

    He's Satan. Of course he's bisexual. If Fred Phelps wrote a show about Satan, he'd make Satan bisexual. Making a symbol of depravity and sin bisexual isn't super PC, it's a standard trope.

    That would be true if the point of the show was that Lucifer isn't actually the symbol of depravity everyone thinks he is.
    He's definitely hedonistic and self-centered, but other than that, he's as good or better than any other angel.

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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
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    DracomicronDracomicron Registered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    I guess after the six episodes I watched he does something more than spout double entendres and use his magic roofie powers to fuck people.

    Narrative arcs! How do they work?

    Also Lucifer doesn't have magical roofie powers. Free will is a big deal to him. His main magic power is that people will always tell him what they most desire, if he asks.

    The double entendres never stop, though, it is true.

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    Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    i just finished the legion season 2 finale

    i will not be watching legion season 3

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    Macro9Macro9 Registered User regular
    I on the other hand can't wait for season 3 of Legion

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    TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    I guess after the six episodes I watched he does something more than spout double entendres and use his magic roofie powers to fuck people.

    The magic roofie stuff happens a lot less, or is at least, moved way into the background, and Linda remembers about professional ethics and cuts off that too.
    Tube wrote: »
    I guess after the six episodes I watched he does something more than spout double entendres and use his magic roofie powers to fuck people.

    Narrative arcs! How do they work?

    Also Lucifer doesn't have magical roofie powers. Free will is a big deal to him. His main magic power is that people will always tell him what they most desire, if he asks.

    The double entendres never stop, though, it is true.

    The yoga studio murder reenactment was a hilarious extended double entendre, and it was apparently Lauren German's idea to do it that way.

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    SorceSorce Not ThereRegistered User regular
    Yeah Lucifer's big thing is that he never lies. Dude always tells the truth when asked, and it actually becomes a focal point of one of the episodes where he doesn't want to lie but can't tell Decker the truth about something, so he tries really badly to just distract her instead.

    He gets personally offended whenever someone says the devil is evil. He may have been kicked out of heaven, but he was only ever punishing the wicked in hell, not tempting anyone to do anything they didn't already want to do.

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