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desc

desc

this post blessed by Organichu who is at work btw fyi hth

desc

edit: wait that might make the post too big

BeNarwhal

I want you all to see what desc just saved you from:

Orbital Launch Detected

You have no one to blame but yourselves!

Coming to [chat] live for the very first time since I created a thread dedicated to this very purpose, it's a SPACEPOST!

Coming up at 04:29 UTC (that's 12:29am Eastern, 9:29pm Pacific) we have a SpaceX Falcon 9 launch! Launching out of Space Launch Complex 40 at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, the four hour launch window gives the Falcon 9 plenty of opportunity to lift its payload SES-12 into the heavens! It's a previously-flown Block 4 booster, so there won't be a landing attempt, but this big ol' bird is headed to a Geostationary Transfer Orbit, so the full capabilities of this mighty rocket will still be on full display!

Organichu or desc could have saved you from this fate, but they didn't! This was always going to be the end result, [chat]! Kneel before your spacelord!

Here's the rocket vertical on the pad earlier today:

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1003327819265347584

Here's the link to The Press Kit

And here's the livestream, scheduled to go live ~20 minutes prior to liftoff!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hcM5hqQ45s

Fly safe, [chat]!

Wooooo, rockets!

emnmnme

Abdhyius

While a moving Earth was proposed at least from the 4th century BC in Pythagoreanism, and a fully developed heliocentric model was developed by Aristarchus of Samos in the 3rd century BC, these ideas were not successful in replacing the view of a static spherical Earth, and from the 2nd century AD the predominant model, which would be inherited by medieval astronomy, was the geocentric model described in Ptolemy's Almagest.

The Ptolemaic system was a sophisticated astronomical system that managed to calculate the positions for the planets to a fair degree of accuracy. Ptolemy himself, in his Almagest, points out that any model for describing the motions of the planets is merely a mathematical device, and since there is no actual way to know which is true, the simplest model that gets the right numbers should be used. However, he rejected the idea of a spinning earth as absurd as he believed it would create huge winds. His planetary hypotheses were sufficiently real that the distances of moon, sun, planets and stars could be determined by treating orbits' celestial spheres as contiguous realities. This made the stars' distance less than 20 Astronomical Units, a regression, since Aristarchus of Samos's heliocentric scheme had centuries earlier necessarily placed the stars at least two orders of magnitude more distant.

Problems with Ptolemy's system were well recognized in medieval astronomy, and an increasing effort to criticize and improve it in the late medieval period eventually led to the Copernican heliocentrism developed in Renaissance astronomy.

credeiki

Yes these geometric sleeves are good
Some day some day

Feral

#3 and #4 are my faves

Honk

Yeah that stuff was clearly demarcated, but not really when they realized that the sun also still moves.

Though I’ve found another article which suggests thoughts about it in the 18th c, but acceptance in the 1920s. That sounds hella late, not sure if true

BeNarwhal

I thought about editing out the part about Organichu and / or desc not coming to your rescue because, obviously, desc did

But the part about kneeling to your spacelord is still valid so I figured why mess with a good thing

Honk

Also noticed that, at least translated to English, the crime Galileo plead guilty to was “suspicion of heresy”. Might have been an emphasizing word prior to heresy there, but the key part was suspicion.

What kind of sloppy legalese system can you be guilty of being suspected of something. It defies all logic.

Abdhyius

Honk wrote: »

Yeah that stuff was clearly demarcated, but not really when they realized that the sun also still moves.

Though I’ve found another article which suggests thoughts about it in the 18th c, but acceptance in the 1920s. That sounds hella late, not sure if true

Well this kind of thing is not really something that usually comes as a eureka moment

more like, hm, this new model does seem like it could work but X, Y and Z because they're not born fully formed

Athenor

Jeez. I wasn't expecting my entire extended family to be here!

Honk

Abdhyius wrote: »

Honk wrote: »

Yeah that stuff was clearly demarcated, but not really when they realized that the sun also still moves.

Though I’ve found another article which suggests thoughts about it in the 18th c, but acceptance in the 1920s. That sounds hella late, not sure if true

Well this kind of thing is not really something that usually comes as a eureka moment

more like, hm, this new model does seem like it could work but X, Y and Z because they're not born fully formed

That may be the case at least from a scientific point of view. But since it seemed like such a big deal philosophically and theologically when heliocentrism became accepted I figured there’d have been a similar thing when someone came to the conclusion that the sun wasn’t the center either.

Maybe they had been so thoroughly disappointed once already that learning we’re even less special wasn’t a big deal.

Elendil

thrusting swords are kind of garbo in ds1

wtb good dex weapon

Zephiran

Does watching The Battle of Algiers put you on some sorta list these days.

Asking for a friend.

shryke

Abdhyius wrote: »

While a moving Earth was proposed at least from the 4th century BC in Pythagoreanism, and a fully developed heliocentric model was developed by Aristarchus of Samos in the 3rd century BC, these ideas were not successful in replacing the view of a static spherical Earth, and from the 2nd century AD the predominant model, which would be inherited by medieval astronomy, was the geocentric model described in Ptolemy's Almagest.

The Ptolemaic system was a sophisticated astronomical system that managed to calculate the positions for the planets to a fair degree of accuracy. Ptolemy himself, in his Almagest, points out that any model for describing the motions of the planets is merely a mathematical device, and since there is no actual way to know which is true, the simplest model that gets the right numbers should be used. However, he rejected the idea of a spinning earth as absurd as he believed it would create huge winds. His planetary hypotheses were sufficiently real that the distances of moon, sun, planets and stars could be determined by treating orbits' celestial spheres as contiguous realities. This made the stars' distance less than 20 Astronomical Units, a regression, since Aristarchus of Samos's heliocentric scheme had centuries earlier necessarily placed the stars at least two orders of magnitude more distant.

Problems with Ptolemy's system were well recognized in medieval astronomy, and an increasing effort to criticize and improve it in the late medieval period eventually led to the Copernican heliocentrism developed in Renaissance astronomy.

I love this stuff because it's like, yo, people a thousand years ago weren't stupider then we are today. They were pouring over this shit trying to figure it out just like us.

shryke

Elendil wrote: »

thrusting swords are kind of garbo in ds1

wtb good dex weapon

Great Scythe. An easy-ish crazy loot run early in the game will get it for you. Thing is a beast.

Thomamelas

Zephiran wrote: »

Does watching The Battle of Algiers put you on some sorta list these days.

Asking for a friend.

In France maybe.

Abdhyius

Honk wrote: »

Abdhyius wrote: »

Honk wrote: »

Yeah that stuff was clearly demarcated, but not really when they realized that the sun also still moves.

Though I’ve found another article which suggests thoughts about it in the 18th c, but acceptance in the 1920s. That sounds hella late, not sure if true

Well this kind of thing is not really something that usually comes as a eureka moment

more like, hm, this new model does seem like it could work but X, Y and Z because they're not born fully formed

That may be the case at least from a scientific point of view. But since it seemed like such a big deal philosophically and theologically when heliocentrism became accepted I figured there’d have been a similar thing when someone came to the conclusion that the sun wasn’t the center either.

Maybe they had been so thoroughly disappointed once already that learning we’re even less special wasn’t a big deal.

I've kind of found that the more I've read about the more it seems like the importance of it was overblown a bit

the fiercest arguments seem to have been about being dedicated to certain ideas on a scriptural basis or that philisopher style really wanting shit to be nice and neat, more than us not being special. I mean, this is the mundane world we are talking about, after all. Geocentrism implies a lot more than just the earth being in the center - and for many that wasn't the most important thing about that model.

kedinik

Honk wrote: »

Also noticed that, at least translated to English, the crime Galileo plead guilty to was “suspicion of heresy”. Might have been an emphasizing word prior to heresy there, but the key part was suspicion.

What kind of sloppy legalese system can you be guilty of being suspected of something. It defies all logic.

mods pls indict Honk on charges of suspicion of contempt of The Law

Elendil

shryke wrote: »

Elendil wrote: »

thrusting swords are kind of garbo in ds1

wtb good dex weapon

Great Scythe. An easy-ish crazy loot run early in the game will get it for you. Thing is a beast.

i've never been a huge fan of the moveset but it might be worth a try now

tempted to farm a side sword but ugh

straight swords

Abdhyius

shryke wrote: »

Abdhyius wrote: »

While a moving Earth was proposed at least from the 4th century BC in Pythagoreanism, and a fully developed heliocentric model was developed by Aristarchus of Samos in the 3rd century BC, these ideas were not successful in replacing the view of a static spherical Earth, and from the 2nd century AD the predominant model, which would be inherited by medieval astronomy, was the geocentric model described in Ptolemy's Almagest.

The Ptolemaic system was a sophisticated astronomical system that managed to calculate the positions for the planets to a fair degree of accuracy. Ptolemy himself, in his Almagest, points out that any model for describing the motions of the planets is merely a mathematical device, and since there is no actual way to know which is true, the simplest model that gets the right numbers should be used. However, he rejected the idea of a spinning earth as absurd as he believed it would create huge winds. His planetary hypotheses were sufficiently real that the distances of moon, sun, planets and stars could be determined by treating orbits' celestial spheres as contiguous realities. This made the stars' distance less than 20 Astronomical Units, a regression, since Aristarchus of Samos's heliocentric scheme had centuries earlier necessarily placed the stars at least two orders of magnitude more distant.

Problems with Ptolemy's system were well recognized in medieval astronomy, and an increasing effort to criticize and improve it in the late medieval period eventually led to the Copernican heliocentrism developed in Renaissance astronomy.

I love this stuff because it's like, yo, people a thousand years ago weren't stupider then we are today. They were pouring over this shit trying to figure it out just like us.

The history of finding the speed of light is fascinating as shit

and really, really impressive once they start getting close because it requires some serious cleverness to look at the orbits of the planets and their moons and figure out what the speed of light must be. Like, nowadays we can just like... measure it.

Feral

Suspicion of memery

Abdhyius

phlogiston theory is my favourite debunked theory because they got the nature of combustion and corrosion almost exactly the reverse of the right way around

Organichu

Coworker wants my dining room table and chairs. I say, what number did you have in mind? They give a number. I say, ok, deal. They say wait what if I’d offered (smaller number). I say, I guess we’ll never know

Now they’re trying to haggle! After I accepted their initial offer

Some people have no honor >(

Abdhyius

Zephiran wrote: »

Does watching The Battle of Algiers put you on some sorta list these days.

Asking for a friend.

it's part of the curriculum in many parts of the pentago

Elendil

shitty ass rapier took six hits to kill a necromancer

gawd

Honk

Abdhyius wrote: »

Honk wrote: »

Abdhyius wrote: »

Honk wrote: »

Yeah that stuff was clearly demarcated, but not really when they realized that the sun also still moves.

Though I’ve found another article which suggests thoughts about it in the 18th c, but acceptance in the 1920s. That sounds hella late, not sure if true

Well this kind of thing is not really something that usually comes as a eureka moment

more like, hm, this new model does seem like it could work but X, Y and Z because they're not born fully formed

That may be the case at least from a scientific point of view. But since it seemed like such a big deal philosophically and theologically when heliocentrism became accepted I figured there’d have been a similar thing when someone came to the conclusion that the sun wasn’t the center either.

Maybe they had been so thoroughly disappointed once already that learning we’re even less special wasn’t a big deal.

I've kind of found that the more I've read about the more it seems like the importance of it was overblown a bit

the fiercest arguments seem to have been about being dedicated to certain ideas on a scriptural basis or that philisopher style really wanting shit to be nice and neat, more than us not being special. I mean, this is the mundane world we are talking about, after all. Geocentrism implies a lot more than just the earth being in the center - and for many that wasn't the most important thing about that model.

Being special is probably a value I projected on it. One interesting thing is apparently the church was fine with the copernican system from a scientific and philosophical point of view - as long as you realized it wasn’t physically true.

Like observations and math says that we orbit the sun. But it’s not like that irl c’mon nudge nudge.

These guys.

kedinik

Organichu wrote: »

Coworker wants my dining room table and chairs. I say, what number did you have in mind? They give a number. I say, ok, deal. They say wait what if I’d offered (smaller number). I say, I guess we’ll never know

Now they’re trying to haggle! After I accepted their initial offer

Some people have no honor >(

Disgusting

Abdhyius

Thomamelas wrote: »

Zephiran wrote: »

Does watching The Battle of Algiers put you on some sorta list these days.

Asking for a friend.

In France maybe.

although DGSI would probably be unsure which list to put you in

not that I think they're overly worried about the OAS or the FLN these days

desc

Elendil wrote: »

shitty ass rapier took six hits to kill a necromancer

gawd

no one held a gun to your head and told you to be not a waifu with a giant sword

no sympathy

RiemannLives

this page reminds me of something I've noticed: whenever someone tries to sell an unorthodox idea by bringing up the notion that "X years ago people thought the world was flat" it is a sure sign they are full of shit.

Abdhyius

RiemannLives wrote: »

this page reminds me of something I've noticed: whenever someone tries to sell an unorthodox idea by bringing up the notion that "X years ago people thought the world was flat" it is a sure sign they are full of shit.

X is always "x hundred years ago" in that saying which really bugs me

try two and a half thousand years ago

Honk

X is probably now actually going by celebrity twitters.

Abdhyius

unless they're chinese

RonaldoTheGypsy

I am angry at these hormones

Shazkar Shadowstorm

Organichu wrote: »

Coworker wants my dining room table and chairs. I say, what number did you have in mind? They give a number. I say, ok, deal. They say wait what if I’d offered (smaller number). I say, I guess we’ll never know

Now they’re trying to haggle! After I accepted their initial offer

Some people have no honor >(

Did you too eagerly accept though

Did you give yourself away

Or did you go hmmm

Abdhyius

"the Creator made the world in the form of a globe, round as from a lathe, having its extremes in every direction equidistant from the centre, the most perfect and the most like itself of all figures"

spheres are an easy sell. Spheres are kind of an inherently pleasing idea.

Feral

Abdhyius wrote: »

RiemannLives wrote: »

this page reminds me of something I've noticed: whenever someone tries to sell an unorthodox idea by bringing up the notion that "X years ago people thought the world was flat" it is a sure sign they are full of shit.

X is always "x hundred years ago" in that saying which really bugs me

try two and a half thousand years ago

Twenty five hundred years ago

Honk

I also liked Brahe’s opposition to us orbiting the sun was that we’d see parallax in the stars and we didn’t. Unless the stars were like thiiiis far away it’d be negligible (undetectable then) and they fucking can’t be THAT far away come on.

And then the stars were very far away and he was right while wrong.