[Destiny 2] Forsaken: Tossin' Nades and Mournin' Caydes

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shryke wrote: »

Can't really do any PvP testing, maybe in a private match at some point, but videos I've seen suggest that with Ashen Wake on fusion explodes instantly and removes the entire shield on your target.

I think you can hit someone with a headshot from an aggressive hand cannon and then fusion them for a kill with the Ashen Wake.

Khraul

Welcome home Guardian

Forever Zefiro

You must free him from his prison

I picked up the whole Vanguard

The paint is a bit sloppy in places, but the faces are really solid

Sirialis

How much are these dolls? Action figures? Do they all feature separate emblems?

I dont think I've ever seen any Destiny merch.

shryke

3clipse wrote: »

shryke wrote: »

Interesting tidbit, while we are talking about grenades:

I ran into some info suggesting the new Titan exotic Ashen Wake had a hidden perk to it. They are arms and the perk says:

BRING THE HEAT Fusion Grenades now explode on impact and gain increased throw speed.

However it seems they also buff Fusion grenade damage. Seemingly by a lot.

My testing in PvE suggests they triple the damage of the fusion grenade.

Can't really do any PvP testing, maybe in a private match at some point, but videos I've seen suggest that with Ashen Wake on fusion explodes instantly and removes the entire shield on your target.

Gonna fiddle with these in PvE after faction rallying is done and see if they are any good now.

Whoa. Post damage numbers if you can. Curious how it stacks up against thermite grenade/pulse grenade.

I did some quick testing running around Io grenading Taken. It's a pain in the ass because of how long the cooldown is but I was getting I think like ~600 without the AW and~1800 with it.

But it's really weird to figure out what is going on because sometimes there are two damage numbers, sometimes only 1. I've seen videoes that suggest anywhere from a 33% increase to a 50% increase to maybe a 300% increase?

In PvP it seems to make for a quick grenade->tap with something->dead combo.

I'm not sure it's actually good though, even with this because the damage is only single target and still feels too low imo even with the boost. It's basically "instantly mostly kill a yellow bar". Except thermite will kill that yellow bar too and anything that comes near where the grenade landed too and the only trade-off is it's a bit slower and has to apply to the ground.

shryke

MagicPrime wrote: »

Ashen Wake really needs something else, like more grenade energy with a grenade kill or something. The fastball special is okay...ish... but for an exotic about fusion grenades, it lacks any real 'spice'

Agreed from my testing so far. I feel like if it made your fusion grenade recharge faster through some mechanism or other it would actually be really solid even without a base damage boost to fusion grenade. Sure it would be a mostly single-target boom that does ok damage but if you could throw them out super frequently it would be a legitimate alternative playstyle and probably tons of fun.

Saldonas

So basically keep with the armamentarium

Khraul

Sirialis wrote: »

How much are these dolls? Action figures? Do they all feature separate emblems?

I dont think I've ever seen any Destiny merch.

$20 usd and they all have the same emblem, at least for that series

3cl1ps3

Saldonas wrote: »

So basically keep with the armamentarium

Or Hallowfire Heart.

Dehumanized

I can't keep track of what's working and broken -- is it safe to collect the weekly clan xp engram?

Vagabond

Dehumanized wrote: »

I can't keep track of what's working and broken -- is it safe to collect the weekly clan xp engram?

Yes

Local H Jay

Another reason kitbash reskins are garbage: I accidentally trashed my Dead Orbit chest and kept a Dead Zone piece. Fuck. Everything.

AuburnTiger

How many faction tokens does the daily Strike milestone give today? 25 like yesterday?

Vagabond

AuburnTiger wrote: »

How many faction tokens does the daily Strike milestone give today? 25 like yesterday?

The Milestones yesterday gave 15. You got 10 for completing the Lost Sector with 5 Renown and 15 for the Milestone. I'd assume that it would be the same for today but I haven't heard confirmation.

Arteen

Local H Jay wrote: »

Another reason kitbash reskins are garbage: I accidentally trashed my Dead Orbit chest and kept a Dead Zone piece. Fuck. Everything.

Throw a DO shader on it and see if Arach Jalaal notices.

Huggles

AJ only sees in monochrome, you're probably safe.

Fawst

I love this new system of PS4 patches! Takes me like 20 seconds to download, then 20 minutes of "Copying..."

:rotate:

Elki

Good God I just saw someone on my friends list get to DO level 50.

Haphazard

Does renown do anything today?

Vagabond

Haphazard wrote: »

Does renown do anything today?

It does the same thing as yesterday, why?

Maddoc

As a person who is not min-maxing the system to run three characters through this, this faction rally requires a totally ridiculous amount of time to hit rank 50

Like "this is a second job" levels of time

Haphazard

Vagabond wrote: »

Haphazard wrote: »

Does renown do anything today?

It does the same thing as yesterday, why?

So, doing some public events that, then haunting a lost sector still works?

Maddoc

This is a confusing line of questioning

AuburnTiger

Fawst wrote: »

I love this new system of PS4 patches! Takes me like 20 seconds to download, then 20 minutes of "Copying..."

:rotate:

Yeah, I thought my PS4 was broken the first time it happened. Glad to hear it's not just me.

Vagabond

Haphazard wrote: »

Vagabond wrote: »

Haphazard wrote: »

Does renown do anything today?

It does the same thing as yesterday, why?

So, doing some public events that, then haunting a lost sector still works?

Yup. You still earn Renown from Public Events, High Value Targets, and Patrols. You still "spend" it by completing Lost Sectors.

Haphazard

Vagabond wrote: »

Haphazard wrote: »

Vagabond wrote: »

Haphazard wrote: »

Does renown do anything today?

It does the same thing as yesterday, why?

So, doing some public events that, then haunting a lost sector still works?

Yup. You still earn Renown from Public Events, High Value Targets, and Patrols. You still "spend" it by completing Lost Sectors.

Thanks, that was not clear to me.

awsimo

Maddoc wrote: »

As a person who is not min-maxing the system to run three characters through this, this faction rally requires a totally ridiculous amount of time to hit rank 50

Like "this is a second job" levels of time

Hm, let's see...

50 ranks at 20 tokens apiece, that's 1,000 tokens

1,000 tokens / 7 days = 143ish tokens per day

Ummm yeah, that's...a lot. Especially creeping slowly through Lost Sectors with 5x debuff.

Vagabond

awsimo wrote: »

Maddoc wrote: »

As a person who is not min-maxing the system to run three characters through this, this faction rally requires a totally ridiculous amount of time to hit rank 50

Like "this is a second job" levels of time

Hm, let's see...

50 ranks at 20 tokens apiece, that's 1,000 tokens

1,000 tokens / 7 days = 143ish tokens per day

Ummm yeah, that's...a lot. Especially creeping slowly through Lost Sectors with 5x debuff.

It is a lot. Maybe not "actually a second job" but yeah. I spent roughly 6 hours last night, not really min-maxing (did Spire of Stars which offers a few tokens as well as working on Heroics and ornaments) and I earned 260-some-odd tokens. So maybe closer to "second part time job" yeah.

El Mucho

Yeah, I spent about 3 hours playing last night, did the awful flashpoint and 3 heriocs then, grinded for a bit and ended the night with 200 tokens. It doesn't seem awful to me.

Konphujun

Still no fix for clan engrams other than "Let them sit"?

Saldonas

Konphujun wrote: »

Still no fix for clan engrams other than "Let them sit"?

They fixed that last week, so they're safe to pick up.

DevoutlyApathetic

Konphujun wrote: »

Still no fix for clan engrams other than "Let them sit"?

They (Clan XP) should be reporting the same number as your other powerful engrams. That was fixed last week.

The Raid/Crucible/Nightfall/Trials ones were downgraded in power intentionally.

Vagabond

Konphujun wrote: »

Still no fix for clan engrams other than "Let them sit"?

If you're talking about the Clan XP Milestone, then no offense but that question was asked and answered on this very page.

If instead you're talking about the Vanguard, Crucible, Raid, and Trials Clan engrams, they aren't broken. Vanguard and Crucible Clan engrams will award gear at the same power as regular Legendary engrams. Raid and Trials Clan engrams can reward slight (0-2 point) increases over your current base power level. They no longer reward Raid or Trials gear though, rather they offer generic Vanguard and Crucible stuff.

The Dude With Herpes

El Mucho wrote: »

Yeah, I spent about 3 hours playing last night, did the awful flashpoint and 3 heriocs then, grinded for a bit and ended the night with 200 tokens. It doesn't seem awful to me.

Yesterday had the free 25 and a super easy daily milestone. Today is 3 strikes.

200 in 3 hours on one character?

I find that incredibly hard to believe. Even with yesterdays milestones.

6 hours for 260 seems far more realistic without actively doing the same thing over and over and over.

24 hours for ~1000 sure as fuck is a second job.

AuburnTiger

I got close to 200 yesterday over about 3 hours but yeah I was doing the same thing over and over with a friend in a party. It's a lot faster and easier with 2 people.

The Dude With Herpes

If you finish the Ana Bray questline on alt characters you get 15 masterwork cores instead of the catalyst again.

So that's pretty cool.

Vagabond

~250 in 6 hours is definitely the "not min-maxing" amount. I could see earning 200 tokens in 3 hours if you did min-max. Still a higher time investment (to earn everything available) than any other time-limited event we've had before.

The Dude With Herpes

Vagabond wrote: »

~250 in 6 hours is definitely the "not min-maxing" amount. I could see earning 200 tokens in 3 hours if you did min-max. Still a higher time investment (to earn everything available) than any other time-limited event we've had before.

12 hours is still in second job territory.

And min-maxing these things would be mind numbing.

I'm working with 3 characters, so I am pretty sure I'll get 50 without a lot of struggle; though since I haven't played since the first rally, getting all the sets and then completing the ornaments is going to be hell.

Even for people doing it with 3 the system they have is stupid for unlocking stuff. Character specific, sets required, and still the same shitass rate of gear drops as the first rally did (still looking for the helm on my lock after 20 engrams, haven't even gotten a single one on my hunter).

So even with total min-maxing, 12 hours for rank 50, you're still looking at more than likely at least the same amount to get the sets and complete the ornaments. Less if you've only got one character, and less if you're fortunate enough to have a set from previous rallies.

And given the one faction per account restriction and the likelihood of 3 rallies this season, tops, that's still a fucking insane amount of time investment no ways around it.

An unreasonable amount.

Completely unrelated, I love how Xenos Vale IV, Anti-Extinction Boots, and Heiro Camo warlock boots all have identical (there might be a pixel or two difference) icons. :rotate:

Forever Zefiro

Elki wrote: »

Good God I just saw someone on my friends list get to DO level 50.

... is Raider in their GT?

Vagabond

The Dude With Herpes wrote: »

Vagabond wrote: »

~250 in 6 hours is definitely the "not min-maxing" amount. I could see earning 200 tokens in 3 hours if you did min-max. Still a higher time investment (to earn everything available) than any other time-limited event we've had before.

12 hours is still in second job territory.

And min-maxing these things would be mind numbing.

I'm working with 3 characters, so I am pretty sure I'll get 50 without a lot of struggle; though since I haven't played since the first rally, getting all the sets and then completing the ornaments is going to be hell.

Even for people doing it with 3 the system they have is stupid for unlocking stuff. Character specific, sets required, and still the same shitass rate of gear drops as the first rally did (still looking for the helm on my lock after 20 engrams, haven't even gotten a single one on my hunter).

So even with total min-maxing, 12 hours for rank 50, you're still looking at more than likely at least the same amount to get the sets and complete the ornaments. Less if you've only got one character, and less if you're fortunate enough to have a set from previous rallies.

And given the one faction per account restriction and the likelihood of 3 rallies this season, tops, that's still a fucking insane amount of time investment no ways around it.

An unreasonable amount.

Completely unrelated, I love how Xenos Vale IV, Anti-Extinction Boots, and Heiro Camo warlock boots all have identical (there might be a pixel or two difference) icons. :rotate:

I mean, I'm not arguing that the grind to get anything is good or anything. I'm finding the time investment requirement onerous myself. I don't want to get hung up on the semantics of "second job" though because I'm not really sure how you're defining that.