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Mac-Like Windows Laptop

burboburbo Registered User regular
Hi H/A thread,

I'm looking for a laptop for my partner for everyday home use. She wants something that is very user friendly, works fast, and doesn't come with bloat. Basically, she wants a macbook, but doesn't want to be in the mac ecosystem. What do you think is the best option for her? Ideal budget is prob 700-800, but could go higher if it's the right thing. Raw power and graphics are not especially important, she won't be gaming, or serious video editing, or anything like that. It should just be fast and responsive to normal, organizing photos, keeping the household running, web browsing and watching videos kind of tasks.

Also, sine i'm on this topic, we've had terrible luck with HP and won't buy anything of theirs. It seems like Lenovo and Dell are kind of the two main brands for this sort of thing away from that. What is the reliability/bloat like on those things these days? Do people have a preference?

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  • Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Make Ready. We Hunt.Registered User, Moderator, Administrator admin
    Whatever you get, make sure it has an SSD (Solid State Drive). They are much faster than hard drives, at the cost of capacity (you can store less on them). My last budget laptop was an Acer Aspire, which is a fairly decent cost > power ratio. It actually sounds like you want something along the lines of a Chromebook, which are essentially very cheap, low power laptops.

    It helps, when shopping for laptops, to figure out the size of the screen that you will tolerate, under the assumption that the bigger the screen, the heavier the laptop will be. Weight is often a big factor when it comes to laptops, too. Macbooks are around 12-15 inch screens, and weigh about 2-4 pounds (the 12 inch is 2 pounds, the 15 inch is 4 pounds).

    Also, what other features are you looking for? Do you need a Touch screen? Built-in HDMI or other ports? A lot of laptops will skimp on ports as a compromise to reduce the size.

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  • burboburbo Registered User regular
    She wants a 13 inch screen. SSD is going to be a must. Touch screen is probably good. Built in HDMI would be good also.

    I'm really hoping there was something you guys were aware of that is supposed to directly compete in this space, and has a good reputation (I don't really trust things like CNET, which mostly just exist to sell you things I think). Something along the lines of a lower end Dell XPS, for example.

  • IrukaIruka Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    Microsoft is releasing a lower budget surface in August, which would probably hit your range if you got a tier upgrade for speed, and got the type cover. It'll run full windows, as surfaces do. It'll be a bit small of a screen for movies, and Im not sure what the display port on it will be.

    I ran my surface into the ground, but still recommend it highly as a laptop experience. You could look at the current surfaces, but they jump out of your price range, and its important to note that they dont sell them with the keyboards (and those are 100 bucks), you need the keyboard and you should just consider it part of the price.

    If you have a microsoft store near you, you can go play with one and see if the feel of it works for you.

  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    Seconding Chromebook. If you're looking for an ultra light system, affordable, for mostly utilitarian stuff that's pretty much top of the line in the space.

    What is this I don't even.
  • burboburbo Registered User regular
    Do chromebooks run a totally different operating system? Can you only do google stuff on it, or other things to?

    She gets all these CDs with her crafting stuff that has other patterns, can interact with die cut machines and whatnot. If it's got a different operating system, those likely won't work, right?

  • FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    I'd go with a Dell XPS 13 or an ASUS Zenbook UX303UA.

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    No modern 13-inch laptop has an internal optical drive. (Frankly, almost no laptops come with optical drives these days.) If she is still getting CDs with content, she'll need a USB DVD drive. luckily, those are pretty cheap: https://www.newegg.com/External-CD-DVD-Blu-Ray-Drives/SubCategory/ID-420?Tid=7595

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • burboburbo Registered User regular
    I was thinking more about if a chromebook would be able to read the files and software that would come on such a CD.

  • Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Make Ready. We Hunt.Registered User, Moderator, Administrator admin
    burbo wrote: »
    She wants a 13 inch screen. SSD is going to be a must. Touch screen is probably good. Built in HDMI would be good also.

    I'm really hoping there was something you guys were aware of that is supposed to directly compete in this space, and has a good reputation (I don't really trust things like CNET, which mostly just exist to sell you things I think). Something along the lines of a lower end Dell XPS, for example.
    Yeah, an ASUS Zenbook is probably the closest equivalent that directly competes. Acer Aspire S3s are pretty close, in terms of form factor. A Dell XPS 13 would also be a good pick.

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  • FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    burbo wrote: »
    I was thinking more about if a chromebook would be able to read the files and software that would come on such a CD.

    Pretty unlikely.

    Anything's possible, but I wouldn't gamble on it.

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • dresdenphiledresdenphile Watch out for snakes!Registered User regular
  • IrukaIruka Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    I hear that camera on the bottom of the XPS screen is kinda the pits, if she would be video chatting a lot.

    If you are just installing things and have an actual home network going, you can use your PCs internal drive over lan rather than buy an external. I installed manga studio that way, originally.

  • burboburbo Registered User regular
    Thanks for your help guys, I'm going to try to get her to do the Dell XPS, but we'll see if she's willing to spring for it :)

  • burboburbo Registered User regular

    Dang! That deal is legit. I'm going to try and get her to jump on that, since price (and webcam placement) were the only things holding her back from the XPS. Thanks for sending that to me!

  • Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Make Ready. We Hunt.Registered User, Moderator, Administrator admin
    burbo wrote: »

    Dang! That deal is legit. I'm going to try and get her to jump on that, since price (and webcam placement) were the only things holding her back from the XPS. Thanks for sending that to me!

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  • burboburbo Registered User regular
    She went with the i7 XPS 13 in Rose Gold with the deal shown here, and is very excited. She made sure to tell me "Make sure to tell those nerds how grateful I am and they totally saved the day on this. Make sure they know that".

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