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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Its website has a free demo of the prologue. Though, saves don’t carry over, so you’d have to replay said prologue in the full game.

  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited September 2019
    Undertale is VERY much a thing. It sold over 3.5 million as of 2018 on Steam alone, and that's not counting all the other platforms it's on (which probably count for A LOT). In terms of recent indies, it's every bit as big (maybe even moreso) as Rocket League and Stardew Valley.

    On top of that, it's a damn fine game. Definitely worth checking out.

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  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    edited September 2019
    There is no Mii Gunner anymore.

    Only Sans now.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Hm. Another possible detail from that mii fighter reveal trailer. The icon for sans and Megalovania had sans on Magicant. IIRC, the Earthbound hack that Megalovania originated from largely took place in Magicant.

  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    oh yeah sans is ness spelled backwards, I thought everyone knew that

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    oh yeah sans is ness spelled backwards, I thought everyone knew that

    Well, spelled sideways with not all of the same letters. :P

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    edited September 2019
    Take the name “sans”, re-arrange the letters, lose some, and add a few more, and you get “Waluigi Will Never Be Playable”. It’s right there.

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    Enlong wrote: »
    Take the name “sans”, re-arrange the letters, lose some, and add a few more, and you get “Waluigi Will Never Be Playable”. It’s right there.

    Finally a conspiracy that makes sense

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  • DrascinDrascin Registered User regular
    MMMig wrote: »
    That reaction to Sans is kind of crazy.

    I should probably play that game..... Undertale?

    Heck it's prob in my steam waiting.

    ed: Also, that means the leaks from like a month ago were correct?

    Undertale is a peculiar game. Toby Fox, its author, has a very specific sense of humour and sense of drama, so if his sensibilities resonate with you, you will enjoy yourself immensely. If they don't, though, you might hate it. Also, fair warning, the first area was made significantly earlier than the rest of the game so it's a lot simpler and the encounter rate is a lot more aggravating than the rest of the game.

    For me, it's one of the best games I've played in years. Sure, the gameplay is simple as all the balls, but it has that Mother quality - "strange, funny, and heartrending", as the tagline went. Very charming.

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  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    Huh, most requested DLC characters by region.
    Interesting...

    I guess we'll see Sora maybe on the post-DLC ones?

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    Keep in mind that was pulled together by some guy based on Twitter responses to DLC announcements, not Nintendo.

    But, Nintendo hears stuff. And if this is at all accurate, they've probably heard the clamoring for Sora.

    Crash would be a fun addition. Though I wonder if Sony has enough sway over Activision to keep him from happening?

    Interesting to see that only Americans are yammering for Waluigi.

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  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    edited September 2019
    Yeah, thats what we need, Japan.

    More JRPG protagonists with swords.

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  • Brainiac 8Brainiac 8 Don't call me Shirley... Registered User regular
    Honest to goodness, while I have no desire for Sora, I have seen so many people want him. Let this be my season 2 dlc prediction: Sora will be part of it.

    I have no doubts about that.

    I think of all of the indie characters, Shantae has more than earned a spot. I'm really hoping that she shows up in season 2 also.

    My top three wanted characters:

    1. Elma
    2. Shantae
    3. Twintelle or Min Min - don't care which, both are awesome.

    So basically I want more awesome women of gaming to show up in the next season.

    Also, I really don't think I would be surprised if Lara Croft ends up showing up as dlc also.

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  • TaramoorTaramoor Storyteller Registered User regular
    Honestly pulling hard for Shantae and Rayman.

    Geno seems like a solid pick for the next slot in the Fighter's Pass, honestly. My only concern is that the people who really want him may not like what he looks like when he isn't a vague little claymation-style sprite and is actually modeled like a life-sized puppet.

    Anyway, hopes and dreams:
    1. Shantae
    2. Rayman
    3. Starman (but like Bowser Jr/Koopa Kids it's Starman, King Slender, Giant Panther, Kin Korn Carn, The Amazon, etc.)
    4. Crash (and they announce it by having the guy in the costume yelling at Nintendo HQ again, and then Doug Bowser runs out and hands him a smash invitation)
    5. Savyna (Announced alongside HD remakes of both Baten Kaitos games)
    6. Lord British

  • Shakey1245Shakey1245 Registered User regular
    I'd assume that getting Sora into Smash would involve some amount of negotiating with Disney.

    Nintendo negotiating with Disney for a character to be in Smash and coming away with Sora would be the equivalent of KFC negotiating with McDonalds for an item off their menu and coming away with the Tartar Sauce.

  • homogenizedhomogenized Registered User regular
    Taramoor wrote: »
    6. Lord British

    Surprise, the next DLC fighter turns out to be Lord British, the other ship from the Gradius/Salamander/Life Force series.

  • WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    Gonna be real

    Still gonna be real happy if we get some Three Houses rep, particularly if it's Edelgard

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  • TelMarineTelMarine Registered User regular
    Mach Rider. Just because it's been dead for 30+ years (except for the one track included in Melee) and apparently Sakurai has some fascination with it? Or is he too Captain Falcon-y?

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    edited September 2019
    My issue with Shantae is that I think the best version of her moves to map onto Smash would be the stuff she has in Pirate’s Curse. Cannon+Hat for a recovery move, Pistol for a ranged attack, Boots as a dash or a charged side B, Scimitar for a down air.

    But Pirate Curse was a big departure from her iconic skill set of animal transformations, and the pirate equipment has become Risky Boots’s thing instrad.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    Shakey1245 wrote: »
    I'd assume that getting Sora into Smash would involve some amount of negotiating with Disney.

    Nintendo negotiating with Disney for a character to be in Smash and coming away with Sora would be the equivalent of KFC negotiating with McDonalds for an item off their menu and coming away with the Tartar Sauce.

    Eh, I don't think negotiating with Disney would be too much of a problem. I mean, the Squeenix characters show Nintendo's happy to jump through hoops to make it happen. And I'd be genuinely surprised if Disney insists they use someone other than Sora, especially as well as Kingdom Hearts has been doing.

    That said I'm still pulling for Wreck-It-Ralph.

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  • WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    TelMarine wrote: »
    Mach Rider. Just because it's been dead for 30+ years (except for the one track included in Melee) and apparently Sakurai has some fascination with it? Or is he too Captain Falcon-y?

    They could go for the version of the character where the Rider's a woman. She's sort of like a mix between Kenshiro and Mad Max; if they had fun with that moveset it could end up being a hoot

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  • T-DangerT-Danger Registered User regular
    edited September 2019
    Given we seem to be getting the main Devil May Cry trilogy on Switch, I'm kinda expecting Dante to be the final Season 1 character. Getting to see him take on Bayonetta would be pretty hype. (Plus, the memes!)

    Either that, or we're getting a Tekken character (Heihachi or Kazuya) to round out the fighting game legends.

    As for Season 2, here's who I'm hoping will appear (Assuming Nintendo will focus on their own franchises this time):

    1: Geno
    2: Rex and/or Pyra
    3: Tsubasa Oribe
    4: Edelgard
    5: Akira Howard

    And as a longshot, maybe Waluigi as some sort of bonus.

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  • Brainiac 8Brainiac 8 Don't call me Shirley... Registered User regular
    To round out my top five because I'm still pulling for certain characters:

    1. Elma
    2. Shantae
    3. Twintelle or Min Min
    4. Geno
    5. Rex w/ Pyra/Mythra

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    If Dante as a character, I’m thinking his moves could be like this:

    B: Ebony and Ivory (basic bullet special, like Bullet Climax)
    Side B: Stinger (Sliding stab)
    Up B: Air Star (directional dash)
    Down B: Style Switch

    Dante has 4 styles that he can switch between. Each one alters some of his moves.

    Swordmaster: his smash attacks fire off short sword beams a la Drive. Stinger becomes Danse Macabre (think Mii Brawler’s Onslaught) if it hits.
    Gunslinger: Ebony and Ivory becomes Honeycomb Fire: a chargeable attack with way more power. Stinger becomes Gun Stinger: he slides a shorter distance but fires a shotgun for sudden stopping power. Air neutral becomes Firewoeks, offering a wide-ranged attack.
    Trickster: Air Star can be performed 2 times, and becomes invincible when used from the ground.
    Royal Guard: shielding or parrying moves builds up a meter. In Royal Guard, Dante’s forward throw expends this meter for increased power and launch distance.

    Final Smash is probably that biggest SDT attack he gets in 5.

  • CruorCruor Registered User regular
    edited September 2019
    I'm gonna guess either Rayman or Dante for the 5th Fighter Pass character. I would also not be surprised to see Ryu Hayabusa. For who I would like to see in the next pass...

    1. Geno
    2. (Captain) Toad
    3. Lloyd Irving
    4. Sub-Zero or Scorpion
    5. Wart as the big old WTF at the end.

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  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    Enlong wrote: »
    My issue with Shantae is that I think the best version of her moves to map onto Smash would be the stuff she has in Pirate’s Curse. Cannon+Hat for a recovery move, Pistol for a ranged attack, Boots as a dash or a charged side B, Scimitar for a down air.

    But Pirate Curse was a big departure from her iconic skill set of animal transformations, and the pirate equipment has become Risky Boots’s thing instrad.

    I think the animal transformations would be workable, they just happen automatically for the moves rather than being something you manage. Up B instantly turns you into the harpy and lets you fly for a bit, down smash and side smash turn you into the elephant, etc.

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  • Kai_SanKai_San Commonly known as Klineshrike! Registered User regular
    I can’t believe waluigi is that low in us though.

    Also no one for Isaac in any to 10 huh :(

  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    I'm not sure I believe anyone has actually played Golden Sun, tbqh.

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  • Shakey1245Shakey1245 Registered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Shakey1245 wrote: »
    I'd assume that getting Sora into Smash would involve some amount of negotiating with Disney.

    Nintendo negotiating with Disney for a character to be in Smash and coming away with Sora would be the equivalent of KFC negotiating with McDonalds for an item off their menu and coming away with the Tartar Sauce.

    Eh, I don't think negotiating with Disney would be too much of a problem. I mean, the Squeenix characters show Nintendo's happy to jump through hoops to make it happen. And I'd be genuinely surprised if Disney insists they use someone other than Sora, especially as well as Kingdom Hearts has been doing.

    That said I'm still pulling for Wreck-It-Ralph.

    Wreck-It-Ralph is a great shout.

    Yeah I don't doubt that Nintendo would put in the leg work to get Sora. It just feels like a limp get for the work involved, though obviously not for those people on Twitter who want him I suppose.

    If we are getting a Disney character in Smash then I'm hoping for Scrooge McDuck. Moveset based on the NES game, Duckberg stage and two songs; Moon stage remix and the Ducktales theme song.

  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Keep in mind that was pulled together by some guy based on Twitter responses to DLC announcements, not Nintendo.

    But, Nintendo hears stuff. And if this is at all accurate, they've probably heard the clamoring for Sora.

    Crash would be a fun addition. Though I wonder if Sony has enough sway over Activision to keep him from happening?

    Interesting to see that only Americans are yammering for Waluigi.

    Sony couldn't even get him for their knock off smash

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  • ZekZek Registered User regular
    Ray Man and Crash are both no-brainers IMO.

  • CruorCruor Registered User regular
    Kai_San wrote: »
    I can’t believe waluigi is that low in us though.

    Also no one for Isaac in any to 10 huh :(

    I'd love Isaac but he's an assist trophy currently so, like Waluigi, I'm calling him impossible for Ultimate.

  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Cruor wrote: »
    Kai_San wrote: »
    I can’t believe waluigi is that low in us though.

    Also no one for Isaac in any to 10 huh :(

    I'd love Isaac but he's an assist trophy currently so, like Waluigi, I'm calling him impossible for Ultimate.

    All the easier to make room for Sveta.

  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    Shakey1245 wrote: »
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Shakey1245 wrote: »
    I'd assume that getting Sora into Smash would involve some amount of negotiating with Disney.

    Nintendo negotiating with Disney for a character to be in Smash and coming away with Sora would be the equivalent of KFC negotiating with McDonalds for an item off their menu and coming away with the Tartar Sauce.

    Eh, I don't think negotiating with Disney would be too much of a problem. I mean, the Squeenix characters show Nintendo's happy to jump through hoops to make it happen. And I'd be genuinely surprised if Disney insists they use someone other than Sora, especially as well as Kingdom Hearts has been doing.

    That said I'm still pulling for Wreck-It-Ralph.

    Wreck-It-Ralph is a great shout.

    Yeah I don't doubt that Nintendo would put in the leg work to get Sora. It just feels like a limp get for the work involved, though obviously not for those people on Twitter who want him I suppose.

    If we are getting a Disney character in Smash then I'm hoping for Scrooge McDuck. Moveset based on the NES game, Duckberg stage and two songs; Moon stage remix and the Ducktales theme song.

    Disney is weird about character crossovers. Infinity couldn't use any characters but the ones for the theme ( except in sandbox mode)

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  • The Zombie PenguinThe Zombie Penguin Eternal Hungry Corpse Registered User regular
    Still holding out for Monster Hunter here. Though I also still think it'd be best represented by a Feylene rather than a character trying to use all of monhuns weapons. If you have to do a hunter, I think committing to Greatsword or Lance (arguably the most iconic mh weapons) and then including stuff like shock trap would be the way to go.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Keep in mind that was pulled together by some guy based on Twitter responses to DLC announcements, not Nintendo.

    But, Nintendo hears stuff. And if this is at all accurate, they've probably heard the clamoring for Sora.

    Crash would be a fun addition. Though I wonder if Sony has enough sway over Activision to keep him from happening?

    Interesting to see that only Americans are yammering for Waluigi.

    Sony couldn't even get him for their knock off smash

    Given how happy Activision was to do special stuff for Sony in the Crash and Spyro collections, I'm pretty sure Sony didn't even try to get Crash for Sony Smash. Especially since Sony strained to get bales of brand-new guest characters to seem cool.

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  • AcheronAcheron Registered User regular
    Hayabusa or Doomguy would get me hyped. Most of the rest would be meh, but I'm expecting more "who?" Like Terry at this point. Roster is already good enough for me!

  • T-DangerT-Danger Registered User regular
    I've been pondering how Byleth or Edelgard could work in Smash, and I've come up with an idea which could give all the central characters a fair shot at representation, and differentiates them from the other sword based FE guys.

    In Three Houses, pretty much every character can become any class, (some easier than others) so my idea for a Three Houses character features a variety of skills from all the different classes available.

    Neutral B - Bowfaire: Fires an arrow from a bow. Like Link and Pit's can be charged for more reach and power.
    Side B - Lancefaire: Charges forward with a lance attack, similar to Ike's side B. Can be charged for longer distance, used for recovery.
    Up B - Axefaire: Produces a mighty axe and swings it upward, sending the character flying up in an arc. Can be followed up by slamming the axe down, similar to Ike's Aether.
    Down B - Great Shield: Produces a huge iron shield with nullifies all projectiles. If activated at the right time, can reflect projectiles and counter physical attacks.
    Final Smash: Summons an army to attack and stomp opponents.

    And since all the characters can possess the same skills in Three Houses, this character could have Byleth, Edelgard, Dimitri and Claude as separate skins, similar to Hero and the Koopalings.

    Admittedly this means the characters wouldn't be quite as individual as they are in Three Houses, but I think this could be a good way to give all the fans they character they want in the game.

  • redfield85redfield85 Registered User regular
    Competing in a Smash tourney in Cherry Hill, NJ this weekend. I am all Ricther right now. Any tips for recovery that aren't "don't get thrown off stage?" Heh.

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