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Ogre Battle: Let Us Talk Together

Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
edited January 2019 in Social Entropy++
Ogre Battle is my favorite game series of all time. Let's talk about it.

Also this poll is dumb and I didn't mean to make the thread like this soooooo I'll update the OP in a second.

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Behold the true hero of Ogre Battle: Canopus Motherfucking Wolph

Let's talk about Ogre battle! You have four games:

March of the Black Queen
Person of Lordly Caliber
Let us Cling Together
Knight of Lodis

With the latter two being Tactics Ogre entries (this series basically invented the Tactics style of games).

The story is ridiculously complex, the setting is expansive, and the history is nuts.

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This is Lanselot Tartaros. Aka
The PC of Knight of Lodis

And the villain of Let Us Cling together. He's pretty interesting! His cronies are just doofuses but Lanselot manages to be an interesting, compelling villain that isn't straight up evil.

Tactics Ogre also throws you for a loop by having the "law" route be straight up fuckin evil (you cop, you) and the "chaos" route be the more traditional good guy route.

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Ogre Battle: Let Us Talk Together 19 votes

March of the Black Queen
57%
Munkus BeaverZeroCowastrobstrdKreutzCraigopogodarunia106italianranmaDaebunzPlatyZombie HeroAlexandier 11 votes
Tactics Ogre: Let us Cling Together
42%
AshcroftMulysaSemproniusSonelanGoose!EtiowsaMidnitefurlionErlec 8 votes
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    PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    March of the Black Queen
    March of the Black Queen, I wouldn't be surprised if I was the only person on here who get the perfect ending

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    DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    ah yes, time to get sad about the series being dead :(

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    March of the Black Queen
    Doobh wrote: »
    ah yes, time to get sad about the series being dead :(

    We can still talk about the stories in the game! And which paths are cool to take and why!

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    miscellaneousinsanitymiscellaneousinsanity grass grows, birds fly, sun shines, and brother, i hurt peopleRegistered User regular
    knight of lodis isn't on the ballot, time to riot in the streets

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    TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    These games have remarkably few ogres in them.

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    miscellaneousinsanitymiscellaneousinsanity grass grows, birds fly, sun shines, and brother, i hurt peopleRegistered User regular
    i've fully resigned myself to never being able to finish it tho

    shit is fucking HARD

    but it's still one of my top strategy games of all time

    also shoutouts to the realest ones out there calais the ninja and swift the hawkman, my quest mode recruits who became the heart and soul of my squad

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    March of the Black Queen
    TheStig wrote: »
    These games have remarkably few ogres in them.

    Person of Lordly Caliber has a lot of Ogres.

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    UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    March of the Black Queen
    i've fully resigned myself to never being able to finish it tho

    shit is fucking HARD

    but it's still one of my top strategy games of all time

    also shoutouts to the realest ones out there calais the ninja and swift the hawkman, my quest mode recruits who became the heart and soul of my squad

    Knight of Lodis? Use the snapdragon spell on one of your strongest units. Shit is Bananas.

    Then when you beat the game, you can cheese a New Game by using the in battle save at the final battle. Start a new game, save it. Then go to the final battle and kill the boss. Start the game with one of the best weapons in the game!

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    Doobh wrote: »
    ah yes, time to get sad about the series being dead :(

    oh don't worry I bet they'll make final fantasy tactics advance 3 someday :rotate:

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    darunia106darunia106 J-bob in games Death MountainRegistered User regular
    March of the Black Queen
    I'm holding out for the space opera spin-off Princes of the Universe.

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    SilverWindSilverWind Registered User regular
    Back when we were kids and online dating, @Wyborn sent me his copies of Ogre Battle 64 and Harvest Moon 64

    That was when I became aware he really really cared about me

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    DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    Doobh wrote: »
    ah yes, time to get sad about the series being dead :(

    oh don't worry I bet they'll make final fantasy tactics advance 3 someday :rotate:

    I liked those games a whole bunch, so I wouldn't complain

    one of these days I need to try out the first Tactics Ogre

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    Zombie HeroZombie Hero Registered User regular
    edited January 2019
    March of the Black Queen
    Anyone ever get a Angel the intended way rather than just using a love and peace on one? I never wanted to risk my Valkyries to zombiehood.

    This has bothered me for far too long. Why would anyone take the risky route when the alternative is so easy and safe?

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    IloveslimesIloveslimes Everett, WARegistered User regular
    More games need to be named after Queen songs. The Playstation Tactics Ogre (port of the Super Famicom game) was so damn hard and so fun. A random encounter a level above your group could wipe your team. And you didn't get a revive spell until 2/3 of the way through the game, I think. I probably have the hundreds of pages of guides I printed in college for the game in storage. The published guide was just garbage.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    I really liked the class system in this.

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    DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    Anyone ever get a Angel the intended way rather than just using a love and peace on one? I never wanted to risk my Valkyries to zombiehood.

    This has bothered me for far too long. Why would anyone take the risky route when the alternative is so easy and safe?

    I have!

    and love and peace is way easier, yeah

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    March of the Black Queen
    So let's figure out what kind of Lord you would be.
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    What above all other things do you think is the greatest crime against your fellow man?
    1. To deceive someone
    2. To sacrifice someone
    3. To steal from someone

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    As a king wishing to rule the world, what personality trait do you feel you most lack?
    1. Expansionism
    2. Efficiency
    3. Putting things into action
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    It is difficult to rule those with ideas different from your own. What do you yourself look most for in a leader?
    1. Compassion
    2. Self respect
    3. A sense of justice

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    It is sometimes said that victory is only luck. What do you think luck is?
    1. Luck is something you create
    2. Luck is inescapable
    3. Bad luck can be good

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    Because of a mistake you made, your army is forced to retreat. What do you do?
    1. Lament your mistake
    2. Shrug your shoulders
    3. Retire from your post

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    A messenger from the gods has appeared before you. What does this messenger look like?
    1. An old man with a staff
    2. An ill-dressed youth
    3. A beautiful girl

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    The night before a battle you see several falling stars heading for the east. What do you wish for?
    1. Luck for your army
    2. Bravery for your army
    3. Victory for your army


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    The night before a battle, you drink a parting toast with your comrades. How full is your glass?
    1. Filled to the brim
    2. About half full
    3. Barely any

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    DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    II: 2
    III: 3
    V: 1
    X: 2
    XII: 1
    XIV: 2
    XVII: 1
    XXI: 1

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    PeasPeas Registered User regular
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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    March of the Black Queen
    Doobh wrote: »
    II: 2
    III: 3
    V: 1
    X: 2
    XII: 1
    XIV: 2
    XVII: 1
    XXI: 1
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    Chaotic Good. Low alignment, high intelligence. You control the power of Phantoms and Poison and have a wizard friend. You have recruited a number of Gryphons, Clerics, and Valkrie to aid you on your quest. A giant Octopus tags along. Your preferred weapon is Notos, the sword of the east wind god. In Lake Jannenia, you chose to fight Sirius when the Sun was up because fuck that guy.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2019
    March of the Black Queen
    Peas wrote: »
    II: 1
    III: 3
    V: 1
    X: 2
    XII: 1
    XIV: 3
    XVII: 3
    XXI: 1
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    Neutral Evil. You control the aspect of Thunder and cautiously swing your weapon twice in battle. You hang out with a Beastman that gave you the heads up on how to get Gilbald (aka Gilbert) O'brien to join your army. Your preferred weapon is Glamdring, the sword of a firedrake that was forged by an Elven master. Your army of berserkers, enchanters, and Iron golems refused to surrender an inch of ground to the Lodis Empire.

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    DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    Doobh wrote: »
    II: 2
    III: 3
    V: 1
    X: 2
    XII: 1
    XIV: 2
    XVII: 1
    XXI: 1
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    Chaotic Good. Low alignment, high intelligence. You control the power of Phantoms and Poison and have a wizard friend. You have recruited a number of Gryphons, Clerics, and Valkrie to aid you on your quest. A giant Octopus tags along. Your preferred weapon is Notos, the sword of the east wind god. In Lake Jannenia, you chose to fight Sirius when the Sun was up because fuck that guy.

    yeah, that all sounds pretty accurate

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    darunia106darunia106 J-bob in games Death MountainRegistered User regular
    March of the Black Queen
    II: 2
    III: 3
    V: 1
    X: 2
    XII: 1
    XIV: 2
    XVII: 3
    XXI: 2

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    WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    I played a bit of Knights of Lodis years ago. Don't remember much of anything about it, except the fortune teller's questions determining your starting state. I thought it was neat how it was more than just a straightforward character sheet to fill out. Even if it was a bit incomprehensible.

    II: 2
    III: 1
    V: 3
    X: 2
    XII: 1
    XIV: 3
    XVII: 3
    XXI: Look, I'm gonna need a bit more info here. Specifically, is the drink alcoholic? If we assume it is, I'll go with 3. However, if it's not, I'm gonna go with 1.

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    PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    Let Us Cling Together is very large. I don't know if I ever really figured out how the chaos-frame works.

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    ZeroCowZeroCow Registered User regular
    March of the Black Queen
    darunia106 wrote: »
    I'm holding out for the space opera spin-off Princes of the Universe.

    That would be '39.

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    2 Marcus 2 Ravens2 Marcus 2 Ravens CanadaRegistered User regular
    This series is such a blind spot for me. From what I know, it’s so completely up my alley, but I’m not sure I’ve owned a console they came out on other than the N64. Have these been ported much or are they still mostly on original consoles?

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    darunia106darunia106 J-bob in games Death MountainRegistered User regular
    March of the Black Queen
    Both Ogre Battles got virtual console releases on the Wii and Wii U. Nothing beyond that.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2019
    March of the Black Queen
    darunia106 wrote: »
    II: 2
    III: 3
    V: 1
    X: 2
    XII: 1
    XIV: 2
    XVII: 3
    XXI: 2

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    Chaotic Evil. Summons a horde of ghost and unholy energy for a massive attack. Stays in the back lines with the lich you raised from the dead. You love your sword, Noish's Promise, the snapdragon'd version of a man who was searching for his lost love. Stole the Brynhildr from the Kastolian Seas, gave it to Galf in a dark bargain to raise an army of the dead. Phantoms, skeletons, Evil Ones, and Devils roam the country side as you look for a Chaos Gate. You plan to drop a floating island on the capital of Xenobia. After that, you plan on having dinner with Galf...

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    2 Marcus 2 Ravens2 Marcus 2 Ravens CanadaRegistered User regular
    darunia106 wrote: »
    Both Ogre Battles got virtual console releases on the Wii and Wii U. Nothing beyond that.

    Oh dang, I’ve got a Wii U. Thanks!

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    March of the Black Queen
    I played a bit of Knights of Lodis years ago. Don't remember much of anything about it, except the fortune teller's questions determining your starting state. I thought it was neat how it was more than just a straightforward character sheet to fill out. Even if it was a bit incomprehensible.

    II: 2
    III: 1
    V: 3
    X: 2
    XII: 1
    XIV: 3
    XVII: 3
    XXI: Look, I'm gonna need a bit more info here. Specifically, is the drink alcoholic? If we assume it is, I'll go with 3. However, if it's not, I'm gonna go with 1.
    As for the last question, I think it's up to you/your interpretation of the question. I went ahead and did the reading based on what felt appropriate based on your previous answers, and...

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    True Neutral. Average alignment, insane strength. When leading your army, you can strike from the backline with such supersonic speed that it cuts through the air. In close combat you attack three times before most can get off a single stroke. You spared Deneb, against the wishes of the people but your army Samurai, Ninjas, Witches, and Dragoneers did not care. You rescued Rauny from Ares, who wanted to bring her back to her father to be married off to some boring ass. You hate boring asses. Your preferred weapon is Sigmund, the sword of a legendary thunder god.

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    WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    True Neutral, huh?

    Yeah, OK, I can live with that. If this were D&D that'd probably lock me into being a Druid, but I don't know if Tactics Ogre has a similar kind of thing.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2019
    March of the Black Queen
    Uh oh looks like Warren is shuffling his deck and has new questions for would-be Lords! (answer these instead of the previous ones for the next few readings)
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    What do you think is the most important ability trait which must be found in a successful king?
    1. Action
    2. Leadership
    3. Conquest
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    What do you think is the most important thing to remember when walking the path of the warrior?
    1. Justice
    2. Glory
    3. Faith
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    After a difficult battle, the army you lead was unfortunately defeated. What was the cause of your defeat?
    1. A lack of military strength
    2. A lack of leadership
    3. Destiny

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    You are standing in front of a mirror which shows your best trait. What is shown in the mirror?
    1. Physical strength
    2. Mental strength
    3. Moral strength

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    In the country where you rule, a cult has started a rebellion. What do you do?
    1. Send your followers
    2. Send your army
    3. Abdicate your throne

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    You are staring at the full moon the night before a battle. What are you thinking of?
    1. The results of the battle
    2. Your family
    3. Your beautiful lover

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    After a long and difficult battle, your army has finally achieved victory. What do you credit your victory to?
    1. Your personal luck
    2. Those who fought with you
    3. The gods' blessings

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    You want to be sure that your knights abstain from disgraceful behaviour. What do you warn them most about?
    1. Obey the law
    2. Don't make empty promises
    3. Be kind to all you meet

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    March of the Black Queen
    darunia106 wrote: »
    Both Ogre Battles got virtual console releases on the Wii and Wii U. Nothing beyond that.

    Oh dang, I’ve got a Wii U. Thanks!

    It's a really good series. I would recommend looking up a guide to help get you to the Best Ending of the first game (it's basically impossible to do without one) and don't be afraid to just straight up look at a guide with ALL the secrets for the first five or six levels. The instruction manual was literally just the controls and a guide to the first seven or so stages.

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    furlionfurlion Riskbreaker Lea MondeRegistered User regular
    Tactics Ogre: Let us Cling Together
    I saw some reviews of Tactics Ogre :Let us Cling together when they released it on the PSP. Being a huge fan of Person of Lordly Caliber, and Final Fantasy Tactics is in my top 5 favorite games, I decided to pick it up. When I got to GameStop not only did I get the game, but someone never came to pick up their preorder so I also got the beautiful deck of tarot cards. I also bought the strategy guide because fuck is this game complicated. Ended up being one of my favorite games.
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    All of them

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    Theodore FlooseveltTheodore Floosevelt proud parent of eight beautiful girls and shalmelo dorne (which is currently being ruled by a woman (awesome role model for my daughters)) #dornedadRegistered User regular
    edited January 2019
    (For shuffled deck)

    IV. 1
    VIII. 1
    IX. 2
    XI. 5
    XVI. 1
    XVIII. 2
    XIX. 2
    O. 2

    person of lordly caliber is one of my... maybe top 3 games of all time? but I still haven’t dabbled in any of the others. I need to find some time at some point, ogre battle really is a special thing

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    March of the Black Queen
    The PSP version of Tactics Ogre is a fantastic game with an amazing translation and a shitton of content that you can enjoy til the cows come home.

    Do not get the PSX version of Tactics Ogre. The load times are atrocious, you don't have nearly the same freedom as you do in the PSP version, you don't get the PSP potraits nor the improved translation.

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    2 Marcus 2 Ravens2 Marcus 2 Ravens CanadaRegistered User regular
    darunia106 wrote: »
    Both Ogre Battles got virtual console releases on the Wii and Wii U. Nothing beyond that.

    Oh dang, I’ve got a Wii U. Thanks!

    It's a really good series. I would recommend looking up a guide to help get you to the Best Ending of the first game (it's basically impossible to do without one) and don't be afraid to just straight up look at a guide with ALL the secrets for the first five or six levels. The instruction manual was literally just the controls and a guide to the first seven or so stages.

    Thanks! I definitely wouldn’t have done this otherwise.

    This might be my next deep dive. I’ve been on a Dragon Quest for a bit now, but might take a break after 5.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    March of the Black Queen
    One thing I would do as a kid was go to the Pogrom Forest after I beat the stage and just send a unit to run around the forest until a skeleton showed up, since the undead are so useful in the early game.

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