One thing I love about Primer is the way the characters begin to realise that whoever has the oldest activated box controls everything and the sudden dawning realisation that it might not be you. It always really conveyed the power of what they were doing for me.
Jurrasic World: Fallen Kingdom is on Prime. I'm glad I streamed it, because I would have been disappointed had I paid to see it in a theater. Overall, it fell just short of "OK". Parts of it were fun, but it could have been so much more.
Good:
Most everything on the Island. I especially like how the heroes were able to outrun a pyroclastic flow.
Carnotaurus! Don't get to see that one very often.
Stygimoloch wrecking shit. Bonehead dinos do not get nearly enough love.
The minisub scenes at the beginning. I'll always take more mosasaurus.
Bad:
I care nothing for these people. No fault of the actors, though.
Really, I don't care about any of the characters.
Like, if I don't care at least a little bit about the characters, then the whole exercise is meaningless. I will happily go along for the ride with well done spectacle or get wrapped up in big ideas, and the spectacle and ideas are not big or explored enough.
I'm 110% done with dinos as monsters. Indoraptar and everything that happens after it escapes is boring.
I think the movie is actually a bad movie and I do not dislike it only because I'm an easy mark for this kind of thing. Is "Dinosaur+humans" really such a difficult concept that it takes Spielberg to make it good?
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The genius of Primer is that it works on two levels.
The basic idea is that time travel is amazingly complicated and the characters are struggling to understand what the hell is going on and what it all means. So if you watch it, and all you take away is the character arcs and that something weird and ominous is happening, that's totally fine. It can be fully appreciated on that level, and in fact being impenetrable isn't a flaw, it's the whole point.
But if you dissect it and try to map what's happening, everything is internally consistent and makes perfect sense given the rules the movie sets out. It's one of the few scifi movies, and possibly the only time travel movie, where looking at it closely doesn't break it.
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So the wife and I have been discovering Roger Corman, and so far each movie is an absolute treat. The favorite by a long shot so far has been Bucket of Blood (which taught us that maybe, particularly in our younger days, the two of us were uncomfortably beatnik-y). Tonight I chose Attack of the Crab Monsters, which I found unstoppably charming. If I ever get to meet Roger Corman, I'll have to thank him for allowing me the use of the phrase "semi-liquid nuclear crab" in a normal conversation.
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Next they're going to announce that George Miller is doing the deserts, and ILM are going to work specifically on the crysknives.
Wow, they’re getting all the production talent from Blade Runner 2049, plus the DP from Lion and Rogue One. There could not be more hype at this point. I feel like Krieger from Archer; “Stop, stop! I can only get so erect!”
Still no word on who is up for Feyd, eh?
There’s still a few major parts with nobody attached:
- Feyd
- The Emperor
- Irulan
- Dr Kynes
- Dr Yueh
- Thufir
With filming starting, we should hear about those soon
So the wife and I have been discovering Roger Corman, and so far each movie is an absolute treat. The favorite by a long shot so far has been Bucket of Blood (which taught us that maybe, particularly in our younger days, the two of us were uncomfortably beatnik-y). Tonight I chose Attack of the Crab Monsters, which I found unstoppably charming. If I ever get to meet Roger Corman, I'll have to thank him for allowing me the use of the phrase "semi-liquid nuclear crab" in a normal conversation.
Roger Corman's movies are endlessly charming due to the complete sincerity involved. They are often cheap as hell but every step of the way he is putting his all into making a real-ass movie. He is just the best.
So the wife and I have been discovering Roger Corman, and so far each movie is an absolute treat. The favorite by a long shot so far has been Bucket of Blood (which taught us that maybe, particularly in our younger days, the two of us were uncomfortably beatnik-y). Tonight I chose Attack of the Crab Monsters, which I found unstoppably charming. If I ever get to meet Roger Corman, I'll have to thank him for allowing me the use of the phrase "semi-liquid nuclear crab" in a normal conversation.
Roger Corman's movies are endlessly charming due to the complete sincerity involved. They are often cheap as hell but every step of the way he is putting his all into making a real-ass movie. He is just the best.
Corman also gave a lot of people their first professional experience. There's the big directors (Coppola, Scorsese, John Sayles, Ron Howard, James Cameron, Jonathan Demme), but there were also tons of actors and crew who got into the industry through working with Corman.
So the wife and I have been discovering Roger Corman, and so far each movie is an absolute treat. The favorite by a long shot so far has been Bucket of Blood (which taught us that maybe, particularly in our younger days, the two of us were uncomfortably beatnik-y). Tonight I chose Attack of the Crab Monsters, which I found unstoppably charming. If I ever get to meet Roger Corman, I'll have to thank him for allowing me the use of the phrase "semi-liquid nuclear crab" in a normal conversation.
Roger Corman's movies are endlessly charming due to the complete sincerity involved. They are often cheap as hell but every step of the way he is putting his all into making a real-ass movie. He is just the best.
Corman also gave a lot of people their first professional experience. There's the big directors (Coppola, Scorsese, John Sayles, Ron Howard, James Cameron, Jonathan Demme), but there were also tons of actors and crew who got into the industry through working with Corman.
He was so cheap he made everyone on the crew do everything so apparently it was a great learning experience.
So the wife and I have been discovering Roger Corman, and so far each movie is an absolute treat. The favorite by a long shot so far has been Bucket of Blood (which taught us that maybe, particularly in our younger days, the two of us were uncomfortably beatnik-y). Tonight I chose Attack of the Crab Monsters, which I found unstoppably charming. If I ever get to meet Roger Corman, I'll have to thank him for allowing me the use of the phrase "semi-liquid nuclear crab" in a normal conversation.
Roger Corman's movies are endlessly charming due to the complete sincerity involved. They are often cheap as hell but every step of the way he is putting his all into making a real-ass movie. He is just the best.
I think that is the core of it. The movies of his we've seen are like all heart and no money. It's like watching a movie swede itself.
It helps immensely that the guy knows his pacing and knows his timing and knows how to block out a scene, so that even if the dialogue is terrible and the effects are awful or the acting talent barely exists, you have fun, because its skeleton fundamentally works and the movie feels like it has life. A great majority of low budget horror or sci-fi movies feel so bad and clunky and slow, and that, more than the low budget, is what makes them unwatchable.
Next they're going to announce that George Miller is doing the deserts, and ILM are going to work specifically on the crysknives.
Wow, they’re getting all the production talent from Blade Runner 2049, plus the DP from Lion and Rogue One. There could not be more hype at this point. I feel like Krieger from Archer; “Stop, stop! I can only get so erect!”
Still no word on who is up for Feyd, eh?
There’s still a few major parts with nobody attached:
- Feyd
- The Emperor
- Irulan
- Dr Kynes
- Dr Yueh
- Thufir
With filming starting, we should hear about those soon
As excited as I am for new Dune, there's something about the old that's aged really well. Maybe it's because its pre-CGI spectacle, but I feel like both the story and effects hold up better than they have any right to.
Sidenote for another movie but the best thing about Widows was that Elizabeth Debicki is 6'3" and she towers over the little hobbit actors that filled the movie (and Hollywood) and they didn't even try and Tom Cruise the heights of other people in the scenes. A meh movie but that was an ultra classy decision Debicki is an angel.
So the new terminator reboot franchise (no not that one, not that one either... look fuck you this one) is called Dark Fate. OH FUCKING SPOOKY!
Sigh. Why? Just ... why?
Listen, and understand. That franchise is out there. It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.
So the new terminator reboot franchise (no not that one, not that one either... look fuck you this one) is called Dark Fate. OH FUCKING SPOOKY!
Sigh. Why? Just ... why?
Listen, and understand. That franchise is out there. It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.
and not even then, if there's still money to be made.
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Y'know, back in the day there was some dumb "Alien vs Predator vs Terminator" thing. Who would've ever thought that movie studios would look at that idea and decide to make a competition to see who can shit on each franchise the worst without actually killing the franchise?
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I'm still sad that they didn't call the third Alien movie Even More Aliens.
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Saving Mr. Banks is poorly paced, ghoulish propaganda
So the new terminator reboot franchise (no not that one, not that one either... look fuck you this one) is called Dark Fate. OH FUCKING SPOOKY!
Sigh. Why? Just ... why?
Listen, and understand. That franchise is out there. It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.
and not even then, if there's still money to be made.
That's debateable. Cameron famously sold his Terminator stake for $1, and he may have been one of the few rights holders to have not gone bankrupt (so far).
The original Terminator rights were picked up from Cameron's producing partner Gale Anne Hurd by Orion Pictures, who famously went bankrupt in 1991 despite releasing back-to-back Oscar winners Dances with Wolves and Silence of the Lambs in the previous 12 months. The rights passed on to TriStar, who are the only company to do genuinely well out of the franchise with the blockbuster success of Terminator 2.
Following T2 the rights were sold to two producers, Andrew Vajna and Mario Kassar as C2 Pictures, who made T3:Rise of the Machines. C2 went bankrupt soon after - not because of T3, but because of flops like Basic Instinct 2. But C2 had been formed with the express purpose to cash in on the Terminator franchise, and since they were now forced to sell the rights to cover their debts, the company dissolved entirely.
The rights were sold to Halcyon, who picked up partway through the Sarah Conner Chronicles and decided to can the tv series to go in a new direction with Terminator: Salvation (first the movie, and later to relaunch a TV series following the Salvation timeline rather than the Sarah Conner timeline). However, they also went bankrupt following the middling performance of Terminator: Salvation - selling the rights in 2010 to Pacificor, the hedge fund that loaned them the money to buy the rights in the first place.
However Pacificor wasn't a production company and had no intention of becoming one, so it held a second auction to recover the money it lost financing Halcyon. The rights were picked up by the Ellison siblings (Megan at Annapurna and David at Skydance), who were looking to knock out a trilogy of movies (so far only Genisys has been released). Annapurna/Skydance HAVE to release Dark Fate as their last shot at recouping their investment, since the 35-year creator rights kick in this year. Cameron can file to have the rights revert back to him, and Annapurna/Skydance will be shit out of luck.
As far as I know, Cameron has expressed no interest in continuing the franchise himself so may just license the rights straight back out again, but it's likely to leave Annapurna/Skydance out of pocket in terms of the final total cost for the rights and how much they end up getting back.
It would be nice if somebody would treat the concept like a story instead of a magic brew. They concoct these movies out of elements, a dash of PTSD Sarah Connor, a pinch of Good Arnold Terminator, a sprinkle of fate, and a heaping spoonful of some new, totally rad Terminator model. Everybody is so intent on trying to find the recipe that T2 used. But it's a franchise about time traveling murderbots, formula should be the last thing on anybody's mind. Genisys at least tried to play with the concept a little bit, changing up who's good, who's bad, who's saving who, and when. Doctor Strange saw 14,000,605 possible futures. Each Terminator movie should be a totally new tactic that Skynet is evaluating, trying to find the 1 that doesn't end in defeat. They've been less creative with time travel than Bill and Ted.
Donnie Darko is one of the handful of times where studio notes actually saved a picture. If you think the movie as it is is a mess, the directors cut is p-word trash fire that does not give the audience a sliver of credit to try and figure stuff out on their own. I personally love the theatrical release for the tone alone, and how most of the actors make what they are given work, but the directors cut stops you dead in it's tracks multiple times to info dump on you harder than that one scene in Silent Hill where Rose unlocks the secret back-story film spool.
What I wouldn't give for a director's cut of Silent Hill.
I always thought the character was called Sarah Connor, where did the Conner thing came from?
Yes, with a quick verbal "boom." You take a man's peko, you deny him his dab, all that is left is to rise up and tear down the walls of Jericho with a ".....not!" -TexiKen
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Sidenote for another movie but the best thing about Widows was that Elizabeth Debicki is 6'3" and she towers over the little hobbit actors that filled the movie (and Hollywood) and they didn't even try and Tom Cruise the heights of other people in the scenes. A meh movie but that was an ultra classy decision Debicki is an angel.
Outside of some shots in Great Gatsby, I've never seen forced perspective tricks used on her in any of her major films. In Man From Uncle she was clearly taller than Cavill and her Italian sidekick and would've been a shade under Armie Hammer if not for the heels.
No matter where you go...there you are. ~ Buckaroo Banzai
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It would be nice if somebody would treat the concept like a story instead of a magic brew. They concoct these movies out of elements, a dash of PTSD Sarah Connor, a pinch of Good Arnold Terminator, a sprinkle of fate, and a heaping spoonful of some new, totally rad Terminator model. Everybody is so intent on trying to find the recipe that T2 used. But it's a franchise about time traveling murderbots, formula should be the last thing on anybody's mind. Genisys at least tried to play with the concept a little bit, changing up who's good, who's bad, who's saving who, and when. Doctor Strange saw 14,000,605 possible futures. Each Terminator movie should be a totally new tactic that Skynet is evaluating, trying to find the 1 that doesn't end in defeat. They've been less creative with time travel than Bill and Ted.
Actually had this fanfic dream once about the Terminator series, which is that Skynet's constant messing with the timelines and obsession with John Connor meant that it had gone insane, so every subsequent attempt to win only became more deranged and ridiculous. Four thousand iterations down, for instance, it was trying to make sexy Terminators that would seduce people back in the past. This would ???? (literally there was no substantive plan) and somehow this would kill John Connor? And that of course didn't work. Skynet just got too crazy to win at that point but too set in its ways to try to do something else.
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Also, Hans Zimmer is doing the score.
Next they're going to announce that George Miller is doing the deserts, and ILM are going to work specifically on the crysknives.
Here's how time travel works in Primer:
And here is the result of using that method of time travel throughout the movie:
Good:
Most everything on the Island. I especially like how the heroes were able to outrun a pyroclastic flow.
Carnotaurus! Don't get to see that one very often.
Stygimoloch wrecking shit. Bonehead dinos do not get nearly enough love.
The minisub scenes at the beginning. I'll always take more mosasaurus.
Bad:
I care nothing for these people. No fault of the actors, though.
Really, I don't care about any of the characters.
Like, if I don't care at least a little bit about the characters, then the whole exercise is meaningless. I will happily go along for the ride with well done spectacle or get wrapped up in big ideas, and the spectacle and ideas are not big or explored enough.
I'm 110% done with dinos as monsters. Indoraptar and everything that happens after it escapes is boring.
I think the movie is actually a bad movie and I do not dislike it only because I'm an easy mark for this kind of thing. Is "Dinosaur+humans" really such a difficult concept that it takes Spielberg to make it good?
The basic idea is that time travel is amazingly complicated and the characters are struggling to understand what the hell is going on and what it all means. So if you watch it, and all you take away is the character arcs and that something weird and ominous is happening, that's totally fine. It can be fully appreciated on that level, and in fact being impenetrable isn't a flaw, it's the whole point.
But if you dissect it and try to map what's happening, everything is internally consistent and makes perfect sense given the rules the movie sets out. It's one of the few scifi movies, and possibly the only time travel movie, where looking at it closely doesn't break it.
The best part about the Justin Timberlake music video is that it is not a Justin Timberlake song and Justin Timberlake does not ever sing
Wow, they’re getting all the production talent from Blade Runner 2049, plus the DP from Lion and Rogue One. There could not be more hype at this point. I feel like Krieger from Archer; “Stop, stop! I can only get so erect!”
Still no word on who is up for Feyd, eh?
There’s still a few major parts with nobody attached:
- Feyd
- The Emperor
- Irulan
- Dr Kynes
- Dr Yueh
- Thufir
With filming starting, we should hear about those soon
Roger Corman's movies are endlessly charming due to the complete sincerity involved. They are often cheap as hell but every step of the way he is putting his all into making a real-ass movie. He is just the best.
Corman also gave a lot of people their first professional experience. There's the big directors (Coppola, Scorsese, John Sayles, Ron Howard, James Cameron, Jonathan Demme), but there were also tons of actors and crew who got into the industry through working with Corman.
He was so cheap he made everyone on the crew do everything so apparently it was a great learning experience.
I think that is the core of it. The movies of his we've seen are like all heart and no money. It's like watching a movie swede itself.
It helps immensely that the guy knows his pacing and knows his timing and knows how to block out a scene, so that even if the dialogue is terrible and the effects are awful or the acting talent barely exists, you have fun, because its skeleton fundamentally works and the movie feels like it has life. A great majority of low budget horror or sci-fi movies feel so bad and clunky and slow, and that, more than the low budget, is what makes them unwatchable.
As excited as I am for new Dune, there's something about the old that's aged really well. Maybe it's because its pre-CGI spectacle, but I feel like both the story and effects hold up better than they have any right to.
So the new terminator reboot franchise (no not that one, not that one either... look fuck you this one) is called Dark Fate. OH FUCKING SPOOKY!
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he's the Mickey Rooney of producing
Sidenote for another movie but the best thing about Widows was that Elizabeth Debicki is 6'3" and she towers over the little hobbit actors that filled the movie (and Hollywood) and they didn't even try and Tom Cruise the heights of other people in the scenes. A meh movie but that was an ultra classy decision Debicki is an angel.
Roger Corman produced The Incredibles?
Interesting that they cast Macaulay Culkin
Sigh. Why? Just ... why?
Listen, and understand. That franchise is out there. It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.
and not even then, if there's still money to be made.
I regret having it on while folding laundry
The original Terminator rights were picked up from Cameron's producing partner Gale Anne Hurd by Orion Pictures, who famously went bankrupt in 1991 despite releasing back-to-back Oscar winners Dances with Wolves and Silence of the Lambs in the previous 12 months. The rights passed on to TriStar, who are the only company to do genuinely well out of the franchise with the blockbuster success of Terminator 2.
Following T2 the rights were sold to two producers, Andrew Vajna and Mario Kassar as C2 Pictures, who made T3:Rise of the Machines. C2 went bankrupt soon after - not because of T3, but because of flops like Basic Instinct 2. But C2 had been formed with the express purpose to cash in on the Terminator franchise, and since they were now forced to sell the rights to cover their debts, the company dissolved entirely.
The rights were sold to Halcyon, who picked up partway through the Sarah Conner Chronicles and decided to can the tv series to go in a new direction with Terminator: Salvation (first the movie, and later to relaunch a TV series following the Salvation timeline rather than the Sarah Conner timeline). However, they also went bankrupt following the middling performance of Terminator: Salvation - selling the rights in 2010 to Pacificor, the hedge fund that loaned them the money to buy the rights in the first place.
However Pacificor wasn't a production company and had no intention of becoming one, so it held a second auction to recover the money it lost financing Halcyon. The rights were picked up by the Ellison siblings (Megan at Annapurna and David at Skydance), who were looking to knock out a trilogy of movies (so far only Genisys has been released). Annapurna/Skydance HAVE to release Dark Fate as their last shot at recouping their investment, since the 35-year creator rights kick in this year. Cameron can file to have the rights revert back to him, and Annapurna/Skydance will be shit out of luck.
As far as I know, Cameron has expressed no interest in continuing the franchise himself so may just license the rights straight back out again, but it's likely to leave Annapurna/Skydance out of pocket in terms of the final total cost for the rights and how much they end up getting back.
Tall women are the best women.
What I wouldn't give for a director's cut of Silent Hill.
Outside of some shots in Great Gatsby, I've never seen forced perspective tricks used on her in any of her major films. In Man From Uncle she was clearly taller than Cavill and her Italian sidekick and would've been a shade under Armie Hammer if not for the heels.
~ Buckaroo Banzai
Actually had this fanfic dream once about the Terminator series, which is that Skynet's constant messing with the timelines and obsession with John Connor meant that it had gone insane, so every subsequent attempt to win only became more deranged and ridiculous. Four thousand iterations down, for instance, it was trying to make sexy Terminators that would seduce people back in the past. This would ???? (literally there was no substantive plan) and somehow this would kill John Connor? And that of course didn't work. Skynet just got too crazy to win at that point but too set in its ways to try to do something else.