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Penny Arcade - Comic - Nite Time Is The Rite Time

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edited February 2019 in The Penny Arcade Hub

imagePenny Arcade - Comic - Nite Time Is The Rite Time

Videogaming-related online strip by Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins. Includes news and commentary.

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    CraigzkiCraigzki Registered User new member
    This is a conversation I have with my son every day.
    Son: Did you see in Fortnite they've-
    Me: Have they brought back 50v50?
    Son:...No.
    Me: Then I don't care.

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    Spartan4845Spartan4845 Registered User new member
    I find this slightly funnier for the fact that I saw a fortnite lama in my local store the other day. Only thought I had was “this seems late to the party.”

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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    I thought this was about Viva Piñata at first and was much more excited that there might be a new one.

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    T-DangerT-Danger Registered User regular
    Is Fortnite actually in trouble, or is it just being overshadowed by the new hotness Apex Legends for the moment?

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    TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    T-Danger wrote: »
    Is Fortnite actually in trouble, or is it just being overshadowed by the new hotness Apex Legends for the moment?

    I doubt it. I'm sure the kids are still hugely into it. AL maybe bled off a lot the adult players.

    And then the olds like me went to Tetris 99. There's a battle royale for everyone!

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    T-Danger wrote: »
    Is Fortnite actually in trouble, or is it just being overshadowed by the new hotness Apex Legends for the moment?

    Not right away, but like as far as popular perception yes it very much is. It basically got pubg'd a new battle royale came around stole all its major players and now its relegated to being number 2, which is still good for now, but like I'm pretty sure epic expected to be number 1 this year and keep riding that fortnite money to boost their steam service replacement. Without that massive cash infusion they'll be hurting with the kind of deals they are making to lock up exclusivity.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    T-Danger wrote: »
    Is Fortnite actually in trouble, or is it just being overshadowed by the new hotness Apex Legends for the moment?

    It seems like a good example of the divide between the "Gamer community Zeitgeist"--where you're either number one or you're zero, where Twitch streams matter more than sales revenue, and where Fortnite is so old it might as well be PUBG--and the actual "population who play video games", where millions of people still play Fortnite and Apex Legends is literally weeks old and vastly smaller.

    Down the line, something is going to knock Fortnite down from the top spot, that much is inevitable. It might be Apex Legends, but it's simply too early.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Eh I dunno BR seem to live and die on buzz more than anything else. I mean when PUBG was the game to play everyone thought "oh all these new BR's they'll never kill pubg, did you see fortnite even added one? Lol what a bunch of hanger ons" and then pubg was down and fortnite was king. Apex has captured the momentum fortnite had for sure, it doesn't have the same active players right now, but it also is bringing back or new BR players that fortnite didn't reach.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    rahkeesh2000rahkeesh2000 Registered User regular
    edited February 2019
    Tycho and Friends have moved on to Apex, so of course everyone else must have as well.

    .... okay actually Fortnite did announce that you can run some achievements to unlock a free season 8 battle pass yesterday. Your call whether them giving away ~$10 is a sign of anything.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Well Twitch is not like the be all end all of a games health, but like on twitch fortnite routinely has way less people watching then apex legends. Like right now apex has 100k more people watching than fortnite. At times it can be over 300k more people watching.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    YoungFreyYoungFrey Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    Eh I dunno BR seem to live and die on buzz more than anything else. I mean when PUBG was the game to play everyone thought "oh all these new BR's they'll never kill pubg, did you see fortnite even added one? Lol what a bunch of hanger ons" and then pubg was down and fortnite was king. Apex has captured the momentum fortnite had for sure, it doesn't have the same active players right now, but it also is bringing back or new BR players that fortnite didn't reach.

    I would argue very strongly that nothing has killed PUBG. It might not be Teh H0tnez, but it had 800,000 peak players today. More than any other game on Steam (although it's pretty much neck-and-neck with Dota 2). It's like saying the Eiffel Tower fell down because somebody built a taller building.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    800k players but are they buying micro transaction stuff? Are they people who previously bought the game? Like a high player count doesn't tell the story for any game. And since Fortnite, nor apex legends is on steam you can't even compare it to its competitors.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    TheSchaefTheSchaef Registered User regular
    Fortnite just got packed into All Of The Things and shamed Sony into allowing cross-platform play. New hotness notwithstanding, it's still pretty much them and everybody else. My two oldest boys and I are among three players new in Season 7, and I've only played two games of PUBG in my lifetime, and no plans to go to Apex Legends (although I do like the idea of class powers).

    I don't think I'd call it a $10 giveaway system-wide, though. Players who invest a moderate amount of time can easily earn enough V-bucks to cash out for battle passes in perpetuity, and even an old man like me am likely to complete enough challenges to earn the freebie. I guess in theory, it could be an indirect giveaway in that people who might have spent Vs on the pass can now spend them on cosmetics they might otherwise have had to microtransact. Assuming the people would buy them in the first place (a lot of defaults running around servers these days).

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    cB557cB557 voOOP Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    800k players but are they buying micro transaction stuff? Are they people who previously bought the game? Like a high player count doesn't tell the story for any game. And since Fortnite, nor apex legends is on steam you can't even compare it to its competitors.
    They're probably buying microtransactions. Like, I can't say for absolutely sure they are, but it's a safe assumption when you have a decent sized playerbase like that. You may as well ask the same of any of the other battle royales.

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    Dark080matterDark080matter CrateriaRegistered User regular
    Tycho's news post for this is an interesting meditation on the shifting nature of perceived metrics and whether they relate to the actual staying power or value of a brand but what really assaulted me was the final line:
    All they have to do is just sit back and wait for EA to ruin it.
    which is a profoundly concerning piece of divination.

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    WarforgedRusWarforgedRus Registered User regular
    Reminds me of their comic:

    https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/247252416_yh9rW/0/2100x20000/247252416_yh9rW-2100x20000.jpg

    Timely since DDO is about to celebrate 13th anniversary and get a 4th expansion in Sharn after first the F2P store turned the game around followed by the design house going independent has allowed them to keep producing content/classes/races.

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    RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    Quid wrote: »
    I thought this was about Viva Piñata at first and was much more excited that there might be a new one.

    Was thinking the same thing

    Sterica wrote: »
    I know my last visit to my grandpa on his deathbed was to find out how the whole Nazi werewolf thing turned out.
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    YoungFreyYoungFrey Registered User regular
    edited February 2019
    Ringo wrote: »
    Quid wrote: »
    I thought this was about Viva Piñata at first and was much more excited that there might be a new one.

    Was thinking the same thing

    No more Viva Piñata and no sequel to Banjo Kazooie Nuts and Bolts are the biggest holes in this generation.

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    MarcinMNMarcinMN Registered User regular
    *Looks up from enjoying his first party Switch games*

    What's a Battle Royale?... ;)

    "It's just as I've always said. We are being digested by an amoral universe."

    -Tycho Brahe
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    jothkijothki Registered User regular
    edited February 2019
    MarcinMN wrote: »
    *Looks up from enjoying his first party Switch games*

    What's a Battle Royale?... ;)

    You know Tetris 99? They're ripoffs of that, but changed to be about shooting instead.

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    OctoberRavenOctoberRaven Plays fighting games for the story Skyeline Hotel Apartment 4ARegistered User regular
    There's a battle royale for everyone!

    They finally finished Gone Home Royale?

    Currently Most Hype For: VTMB2, Tiny Tina's Wonderlands, Alan Wake 2 (Wake Harder)Currently Playin: Guilty Gear XX AC+R, Gat Out Of Hell
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    LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    I think I'm old and out of touch, because I still don't understand the fascination with watching other people play video games. My free time is precious to me, and I'm not going to spend my time watching someone else play video games, when I could be playing the game myself instead.

    The only time I have ever tuned in to Twitch was in a pre-buy situation where I was on the fence about a game, and I wanted to see a bit of gameplay before making the purchase. And I think 100% of the times I did that, I grew so annoyed with the person who was streaming that I tuned out almost instantly.

    Seriously, how can people stand to watch these streamers when it's just a constant, never-ending barrage of "Thanks for the sub. Hey, thanks for the gems. Thanks for the love. Thanks for the gems. Thanks for the sub. Nice to have you, thanks for the sub. Thanks for the gems. Thanks for the sub. Thanks for the sub. Hey, thanks for the gems."

    Like seriously, people find that entertaining? I don't get it. Like I say, I think I'm just old and out of it and completely do not understand modern gaming culture even a little bit.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Well most streamers don't constantly thank people, the ones that have those kind of notifications usually wait for a bit and then thank them. And for me I don't have cable anymore, I don't watch tvs or movies I just watch people stream because its more entertaining to me. I watch people play story games I don't want to play, or I watch people play competitive games I'm not good at or I just watch a streamer I personally find entertaining.

    I don't know why people get so "how can you do that?" When people watch all kinds of dumb things all the time. At times it feels a little onion man with no tv.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    Same way people tolerate sports announcers who excitedly announce they’re thankful to Pringles for sponsoring the game.

    I don’t watch streaming often. The times I do it’s either a pro game with announcers or a relatively chill streamer that isn’t constantly shouting.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    I mean for me since I have a small child at home I can't always game when I want to, so being able to watch people game lets me feel connected to my hobby without being able to do it.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
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    dennisdennis aka bingley Registered User regular
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    I think I'm old and out of touch, because I still don't understand the fascination with watching other people play video games. My free time is precious to me, and I'm not going to spend my time watching someone else play video games, when I could be playing the game myself instead.

    The only time I have ever tuned in to Twitch was in a pre-buy situation where I was on the fence about a game, and I wanted to see a bit of gameplay before making the purchase. And I think 100% of the times I did that, I grew so annoyed with the person who was streaming that I tuned out almost instantly.

    Seriously, how can people stand to watch these streamers when it's just a constant, never-ending barrage of "Thanks for the sub. Hey, thanks for the gems. Thanks for the love. Thanks for the gems. Thanks for the sub. Nice to have you, thanks for the sub. Thanks for the gems. Thanks for the sub. Thanks for the sub. Hey, thanks for the gems."

    Like seriously, people find that entertaining? I don't get it. Like I say, I think I'm just old and out of it and completely do not understand modern gaming culture even a little bit.

    I think it really depends on the streamers. I greatly enjoy watching the PA crew play stuff, and interacting with a cast of regulars in the chat.

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    MarcinMNMarcinMN Registered User regular
    jothki wrote: »
    MarcinMN wrote: »
    *Looks up from enjoying his first party Switch games*

    What's a Battle Royale?... ;)

    You know Tetris 99? They're ripoffs of that, but changed to be about shooting instead.

    Can you at least throw your hat at people to take control of their bodies? :)

    "It's just as I've always said. We are being digested by an amoral universe."

    -Tycho Brahe
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    shadowysea07shadowysea07 Registered User regular
    Demon llama!

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    GeddoeGeddoe Registered User regular
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    I think I'm old and out of touch, because I still don't understand the fascination with watching other people play video games. My free time is precious to me, and I'm not going to spend my time watching someone else play video games, when I could be playing the game myself instead.

    The only time I have ever tuned in to Twitch was in a pre-buy situation where I was on the fence about a game, and I wanted to see a bit of gameplay before making the purchase. And I think 100% of the times I did that, I grew so annoyed with the person who was streaming that I tuned out almost instantly.

    Seriously, how can people stand to watch these streamers when it's just a constant, never-ending barrage of "Thanks for the sub. Hey, thanks for the gems. Thanks for the love. Thanks for the gems. Thanks for the sub. Nice to have you, thanks for the sub. Thanks for the gems. Thanks for the sub. Thanks for the sub. Hey, thanks for the gems."

    Like seriously, people find that entertaining? I don't get it. Like I say, I think I'm just old and out of it and completely do not understand modern gaming culture even a little bit.

    I know my own level of play(basically the bottom of the barrel in every game to ever exist or that ever will exist). Sometimes it is fun to see people actually good at the game beat people that aren't me. Sometimes the person playing has a fun or interesting personality or gimmick that makes them fun to watch even if they weren't playing the game. The game is just adding to the experience("this fun dude is playing that game I liked, how will he respond when he gets to the part I spent 4 days trying to do?").

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