Dragon Prince: 3rd Season out on Nov 22nd!!! Always Sweep the Leg.

Rchanen

In the Land of Xadia there are two factions.

Those who think that you can sweep the leg during swordfighting







And those who do not







There is also conflict over who killed the Dragon King, what happened to his egg and the consequences of Dark Magic, but mostly people argue about sweeping the leg.

Our characters age and heights:




Discuss one of the best shows on Netflix here!

dispatch.o

Just started watching it. There's a quality change in animation after the opening sequence of the first episode that is a huge improvement. By episode 2 I was full on board with the series.

Pailryder

still in season 2 but very much digging the show the opener for season 2 was so good.

Roz

That 5'11 1/2" must haunt Soren on his tinder profile.

PLA

I feel that I have seen that visibly evil guy in a different franchise.

Mx. Quill

Rayla continues to be the best throughout Book 2.

Wasn't expecting her to reference Sailor Moon.

Rchanen

Emerlmaster999 wrote: »

Rayla continues to be the best throughout Book 2.

Wasn't expecting her to reference Sailor Moon.

Or

"Let's discuss different travel routes that will let us get to places slightly faster."

nexuscrawler

Some of the references are really unexpected and funny

was not expecting a Mordor meme reference

Shadowfire

nexuscrawler wrote: »

Winklebottom wrote: »

N1tSt4lker wrote: »

madparrot wrote: »

Dragon Prince S2 full season:

I detect a hugely tragic arc incoming for Claudia. She's about to become a big dark magic evangelist after healing her brother, and when Callum turns her down flat after his air arcanum epiphany, she will not react well.

For bonus tragedy points, it's likely that her brother's healing spell won't last, and she will find herself forced to cross a line to keep him (literally) on his feet: if killing another deer won't work, she may resort to using a human life to power the next spell...

I was genuinely suprised at the Sorra paralyzation storyline. That's some super heavy shit. And yeah, the level of dark magic she was willing to use to heal him does not bode well for her at all. It certainly won't help that dad is descending down into some really vengeful dark magic himself right now.

Yeah, the Father seems to being tutored by some sort of evil, I'm wondering if it will end up being the real big bad. I didn't get a count, but how many swords did the prince's aunt end up going through to the sun elves super blades.

Dragon Prince spoilers

the guy in the mirror is the one they mention elsewhere as someone who mastered all the primal magics. Its his box thingy that unlocks something. Keep in mind his mirror was originally in the Dragon King's horde. He's been around a super long time.

Aavaros is also the narrator in the beginning of season 1.

abotkin

I've really enjoyed both seasons of the show and definitely looking forward to more.

madparrot

Shadowfire wrote: »

nexuscrawler wrote: »

Winklebottom wrote: »

N1tSt4lker wrote: »

madparrot wrote: »

Dragon Prince S2 full season:

I detect a hugely tragic arc incoming for Claudia. She's about to become a big dark magic evangelist after healing her brother, and when Callum turns her down flat after his air arcanum epiphany, she will not react well.

For bonus tragedy points, it's likely that her brother's healing spell won't last, and she will find herself forced to cross a line to keep him (literally) on his feet: if killing another deer won't work, she may resort to using a human life to power the next spell...

I was genuinely suprised at the Sorra paralyzation storyline. That's some super heavy shit. And yeah, the level of dark magic she was willing to use to heal him does not bode well for her at all. It certainly won't help that dad is descending down into some really vengeful dark magic himself right now.

Yeah, the Father seems to being tutored by some sort of evil, I'm wondering if it will end up being the real big bad. I didn't get a count, but how many swords did the prince's aunt end up going through to the sun elves super blades.

Dragon Prince spoilers

the guy in the mirror is the one they mention elsewhere as someone who mastered all the primal magics. Its his box thingy that unlocks something. Keep in mind his mirror was originally in the Dragon King's horde. He's been around a super long time.

Aavaros is also the narrator in the beginning of season 1.

and likely the one who unrolls the map at the beginning of every episode

nexuscrawler

So one observation my gf made

The king is totally in the bird right

N1tSt4lker

Rchanen wrote: »

Emerlmaster999 wrote: »

Rayla continues to be the best throughout Book 2.

Wasn't expecting her to reference Sailor Moon.

Or

"Let's discuss different travel routes that will let us get to places slightly faster."

Every one of Rayla’s pretending to be human examples had me rolling. Just spot on.

RT800

Soren is kinda tonally weird.

I mean he's played kinda goofy and relatable, like outside of his father's shadow he'd be a good guy

but by episode 3 he's actively tried to murder a child at least twice and the tone doesn't really seem to acknowledge the monstrousness of the attempt.

thatassemblyguy

This is an incredibly adorable show. Just really good writing, and fun animation.

Mid-Season-2 Spoilers

When Soren was telling the story of how all the Moms died, I'm p. sure he killed Callum and Ezran's mom. There were a few ways he chose to tell the story: Like how she was the King's true advisor that leads me to think this. Also, it would be a perfect way to motivate King Harrow into attacking the storm dragons.

Goumindong

thatassemblyguy wrote: »

This is an incredibly adorable show. Just really good writing, and fun animation.

Mid-Season-2 Spoilers

When Soren was telling the story of how all the Moms died, I'm p. sure he killed Callum and Ezran's mom. There were a few ways he chose to tell the story: Like how she was the King's true advisor that leads me to think this. Also, it would be a perfect way to motivate King Harrow into attacking the storm dragons.

Please

He killed all three of them

Rchanen

Goumindong wrote: »

thatassemblyguy wrote: »

This is an incredibly adorable show. Just really good writing, and fun animation.

Mid-Season-2 Spoilers

When Soren was telling the story of how all the Moms died, I'm p. sure he killed Callum and Ezran's mom. There were a few ways he chose to tell the story: Like how she was the King's true advisor that leads me to think this. Also, it would be a perfect way to motivate King Harrow into attacking the storm dragons.

Please

He killed all three of them

Hey Hey Hey

That was Viren not Soren. Other than that you have a good point. If anybody screams unreliable narrator, he does.

thatassemblyguy

Rchanen wrote: »

Goumindong wrote: »

thatassemblyguy wrote: »

This is an incredibly adorable show. Just really good writing, and fun animation.

Mid-Season-2 Spoilers

When Soren was telling the story of how all the Moms died, I'm p. sure he killed Callum and Ezran's mom. There were a few ways he chose to tell the story: Like how she was the King's true advisor that leads me to think this. Also, it would be a perfect way to motivate King Harrow into attacking the storm dragons.

Please

He killed all three of them

Hey Hey Hey

That was Viren not Soren. Other than that you have a good point. If anybody screams unreliable narrator, he does.

Yes. Sorry, I meant Viren. I'm bad with the name recall somedays.

Ardol

I finished Season 2 the other night and really my only problem with it was (S2)

there weren't more episodes! The deer thing was interesting to me in that it got me thinking about while it tugged at the heartstrings, whether it was actually any worse than killing a cow for food(in this instance dark magic wasn't used to enhance her own power or anything selfish). It seems to have messed up Claudia pretty bad though.

RT800

I can't help but feel like this season was really really... short.

No shorter than season 1, I guess. I just wish there was more.

Munkus Beaver

nexuscrawler wrote: »

So one observation my gf made

The king is totally in the bird right

Oh absolutely.

I have been saying that since season one.

LostNinja

RT800 wrote: »

Soren is kinda tonally weird.

I mean he's played kinda goofy and relatable, like outside of his father's shadow he'd be a good guy

but by episode 3 he's actively tried to murder a child at least twice and the tone doesn't really seem to acknowledge the monstrousness of the attempt.

I actually think it works to demonstrate something.

It shows that both him and Claudia wouldn’t be bad people without the influence of their father. Their flaw is trusting someone you’re supposed to trust (parent) even when they shouldn’t, and they both are consistently shown questioning this trust and if they should follow through with their father’s demands to the point Soren is relieved when he becomes paralyzed.

It works to make them both redeemable while damning Viren even more for putting his kids in that situation.

Edit:
Also after finishing S2 I’m really glad the quality seems to be more consistent than it was in S1, I still don’t love the animation style they used, but this show is so good it’s easy to look past.

nexuscrawler

Season 2 felt short because there wasn't a heck of alot of plot motion. Instead the focused on character development and world building. I think it worked out really well/ Like

Callum learning magic felt really earned.

dispatch.o

I'd like it if they started showing the achievement of the humans a bit beyond just murdering magical creatures. I was hopeful when they went to the doctor but nope. Apparently humanity is a bunch of violent racist dirt farmers. Hoping that season 3 is more dynamic.

Shows pretty great though.

ArbitraryDescriptor

S2 Finale scene:

Were we supposed to know something about the dragon Rayla name-checked in the final scene? I missed an unknown quantity of S1

Rchanen

ArbitraryDescriptor wrote: »

S2 Finale scene:

Were we supposed to know something about the dragon Rayla name-checked in the final scene? I missed an unknown quantity of S1

According to TV Tropes, he shows up as a cameo in the first episode flying around. And he has been in some of the art work. But other than that he has not appeared before. But from the size of him, he is to Sun Dragons, i.e Fire Dragons, what Thunder was to Sky Dragons.

Shadowhope

I’m a big fan of this show.

I think that my favourite part of season two was:

Rayla’s interaction with Callum when he was feverish. She went from being angry and unsympathetic and with a lot of talk about how it was his own fault to “ya big dumb human” with concern in her voice. And then as her concern grew her feelings for Callum came to the forefront.

Another thing that I also liked: how Villads was almost certainly using Primal Magic connected to the sea, albeit without runes or words to shape it. Callum isn’t the first human to use Primal Magic, just the first to use it knowingly, maybe.



So, does anyone else think that Sarai might be alive? Given that Callum is headed to elf-land, I can totally see a situation where he’s captured and thrown into a prison with the “other human,” leading to a family reunion.

Enc

Shadowhope wrote: »

I’m a big fan of this show.

I think that my favourite part of season two was:

Rayla’s interaction with Callum when he was feverish. She went from being angry and unsympathetic and with a lot of talk about how it was his own fault to “ya big dumb human” with concern in her voice. And then as her concern grew her feelings for Callum came to the forefront.

Another thing that I also liked: how Villads was almost certainly using Primal Magic connected to the sea, albeit without runes or words to shape it. Callum isn’t the first human to use Primal Magic, just the first to use it knowingly, maybe.



So, does anyone else think that Sarai might be alive? Given that Callum is headed to elf-land, I can totally see a situation where he’s captured and thrown into a prison with the “other human,” leading to a family reunion.

I think if we ever see Sarai again, it is going to be screaming in horror out of one of those coins.

Bizazedo

The show is great.

As for Virren and unreliable narrator and his re-telling of that story....

I bet he was telling the truth. Dragon Prince has been great, especially with him, in not making him a moustache twirling baddie. He's doing what he sees as best to help humanity as a whole.

He did not kill or imprison the Queens.

The pirate captain was hilarious and I about died at the explanation of his ship name and "came at me from the left."

OldSlacker

Enc wrote: »

Shadowhope wrote: »

I’m a big fan of this show.

I think that my favourite part of season two was:

Rayla’s interaction with Callum when he was feverish. She went from being angry and unsympathetic and with a lot of talk about how it was his own fault to “ya big dumb human” with concern in her voice. And then as her concern grew her feelings for Callum came to the forefront.

Another thing that I also liked: how Villads was almost certainly using Primal Magic connected to the sea, albeit without runes or words to shape it. Callum isn’t the first human to use Primal Magic, just the first to use it knowingly, maybe.



So, does anyone else think that Sarai might be alive? Given that Callum is headed to elf-land, I can totally see a situation where he’s captured and thrown into a prison with the “other human,” leading to a family reunion.

I think if we ever see Sarai again, it is going to be screaming in horror out of one of those coins.

I think Rayla's parents might be in those coins. We were never told what exactly happened when Virren killed Thunder, only that the Royal Guard supposedly abandoned the Dragon King and fled, but that might be because they found no bodies in the aftermath.

Burnage

Bizazedo wrote: »

The show is great.

As for Virren and unreliable narrator and his re-telling of that story....

I bet he was telling the truth. Dragon Prince has been great, especially with him, in not making him a moustache twirling baddie. He's doing what he sees as best to help humanity as a whole.

He did not kill or imprison the Queens.

The pirate captain was hilarious and I about died at the explanation of his ship name and "came at me from the left."

The flash back pretty clearly showed

the queen being a nuisance to Virren's plans. Based on all his other behaviour it's totally believable that he might want her out of the way for the greater good.

I also liked how she swept the leg!

Shadowhope

I don’t think that

Virin killed Sarai.

I do think that there’s a strong chance

He left her to die.

And if so,

I expect her to show up as a prisoner.

Bizazedo

Burnage wrote: »

The flash back pretty clearly showed

the queen being a nuisance to Virren's plans. Based on all his other behaviour it's totally believable that he might want her out of the way for the greater good.

I also liked how she swept the leg!

It did, but....

....she still went along with it. She wasn't an obstacle and was supporting King Harrow in the plan. Virren had no reason to take her out.

And one thing the show has been consistent on is that they're trying to give everyone reasons as to why they do things, not just make them stereotypically good or evil.

Well, mostly. We'll see how Eravos works out.

southwick

Haven't finished season 2 yet, but just wanted to throw in my appreciation of this show. The pirate captain had us all laughing.
Also, I would like to have the Rayla voice actress read bedtime stories to me.

OldSlacker

southwick wrote: »

Haven't finished season 2 yet, but just wanted to throw in my appreciation of this show. The pirate captain had us all laughing.
Also, I would like to have the Rayla voice actress read bedtime stories to me.

Rayla Rayla or human Rayla?

ArbitraryDescriptor

Shadowhope wrote: »

I don’t think that

Virin killed Sarai.

I do think that there’s a strong chance

He left her to die.

And if so,

I expect her to show up as a prisoner.

I think

She ordered him to leave, because without him to perform the spell it was all for nothing. He's a pragmatist, he would accept that.

I just think he couldn't tell the King that.

Bizazedo

Yeah, or that.

Above all, the important thing to remember about Virren is that he believes he is a good guy and he hadn't really begun making compromises at that point.

kaid

RT800 wrote: »

Soren is kinda tonally weird.

I mean he's played kinda goofy and relatable, like outside of his father's shadow he'd be a good guy

but by episode 3 he's actively tried to murder a child at least twice and the tone doesn't really seem to acknowledge the monstrousness of the attempt.

when he gets paralyzed though he does acknowledge how monsterous it was. He was glad he could not move because now he didn't have to try to kill his friends. It was a way out for him and thats pretty bleak when you are seeing the upside to paralysis.

Enc

Virren and his kids

I love how they each have a moral threshold, its just that their moral threshold is much more flexible than the standard fantasy tropes. Like Soren and Claudia are both good people, but you can quickly see where their moral bar stops. Claudia doesn't mind killing magic creatures to fuel magic, but still loves those magic creatures (sorta how we might love a pet pig but still make him into bacon later on)... but she won't lie to the people she loves. Soren is very sportsmanlike and has a strong sense of duty, but also doesn't mind lying, or even setting people up to die, if its for a cause that can be rationalized into his worldview. Just so long as he isn't breaking his literal no murder code.

Virren is the best of them all. The show does a great job of showing him as not the villain of his own story. In Virren's mind, he is the hero, perhaps the only one, doing his best to keep humanity alive against an ontological threat that no one else seems capable, competent, or willing to stop.

They are great antagonists and I enjoy their screen time just as much as I do the main characters.

dispatch.o

Enc wrote: »

Virren and his kids

I love how they each have a moral threshold, its just that their moral threshold is much more flexible than the standard fantasy tropes. Like Soren and Claudia are both good people, but you can quickly see where their moral bar stops. Claudia doesn't mind killing magic creatures to fuel magic, but still loves those magic creatures (sorta how we might love a pet pig but still make him into bacon later on)... but she won't lie to the people she loves. Soren is very sportsmanlike and has a strong sense of duty, but also doesn't mind lying, or even setting people up to die, if its for a cause that can be rationalized into his worldview. Just so long as he isn't breaking his literal no murder code.

Virren is the best of them all. The show does a great job of showing him as not the villain of his own story. In Virren's mind, he is the hero, perhaps the only one, doing his best to keep humanity alive against an ontological threat that no one else seems capable, competent, or willing to stop.

They are great antagonists and I enjoy their screen time just as much as I do the main characters.

It's excellent writing and I always feel like they're just one scene away from doing the right thing. Except all of the characters are built in a way they're always doing the right thing with the information they have. By perspective none are motivated by low rent Disney style good guy / bad guy trope morality. It's really impressive.

Bizazedo

dispatch.o wrote: »

It's excellent writing and I always feel like they're just one scene away from doing the right thing. Except all of the characters are built in a way they're always doing the right thing with the information they have. By perspective none are motivated by low rent Disney style good guy / bad guy trope morality. It's really impressive.

In retrospect, it makes me give the writer of this show more credit for Avatar than the creators and helps explain to me why Korra got so bad. The writer here is great.