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Even when the shooter's manifesto lists Trump as an inspiration? Interesting take.
i would note that this phenomenon is not at all demographically confined, oddly
one child i taught - iranian in origin, 12 at the time - used to watch a lot of youtube
at first it was giving him family guy clips. then after a while it moved to south park
a few weeks later i turn up and he asked me if i "disavowed antifa" - it had given him ben shapiro. kids arent always amazing at knowing that being half-iranian half-venezuelan doesnt necessarily make u the ideal demographic match for the ideas ur encountering...
About 10 heated gaming moments ago.
I am normally against the death penalty. I think prisoners should be treated far more humanely than they generally are.
It's difficult to think about what should be done with mass murderers who are explicitly hoping to encourage more mass murder. I know people can make a martyr out of anyone, I know cruelty in punishment will never only be used on the most horrible people.
But it would satisfy the less sophisticated parts of my brain to see severe punishment dealt to these worst humans.
I suppose the difficult cases are the reason the rights exist.
'heated gaming moment' refers Pewds saying the n-word on stream in September 2017, and he was already a right-wing chud by then
For awhile now.
Probably past due having the conversation about what standards streaming companies have compared to Network or cable television.
I would say absolutely focus on social media platforms for containing things like this, but the news on both sides is going to run this story into the ground as well.
I don't ascribe to the notion that if we sweep it under the rug it won't happen again. If the media didn't talk about it then regular people would probably not know about it. It would make the rounds on the usually messageboards/social media platforms and everyday people wouldn't be none the wiser.
Not talking about it is just asking for more parents to be unaware when they see their kid watching 'some Youtube guy'.
The people who run the streaming services are part of it. It's not an accident or oversight.
We do have this conversation - it pops up routinely in the SE++ YouTube thread here, for example. The problem is that the tech community is culturally opposed to having any such standards - partially out of ideology, partially out of greed.
This was a pretty good point made on that:
Mehdi Hasan is a columnist for The Intercept.
The bad faith is just stunning.
And partly because some of them straight-up agree with guys like this (case in point: sites being really loud about how We Won't Censor Political Opinions who whip out the banhammer if someone calls out an alt-righter with insufficient politeness).
It goes beyond that, sadly. Matthew Prince, the head and founder of CloudFlare, publicly argued that freedom of speech compels him to do business with white supremacists. We have created a culture where the right of bigots to spew hate is more important than minorities and the dispossessed to be safe.
Was just about to post this. "Don't talk about the details" is a political decision that in this case especially has specific beneficiaries: the people who are trying to start a goddamn genocide.
I also think, from reading about the failed attempts at recruiting journalists at Google and Facebook, that the type of voices that could help the services control this bullshit also clash heavily with the cultures of the Internet companies. You can't help moderate away extremism when a significant and powerful faction in the firm disbelieves in moderation and another less vocal but still influential faction believes in white, male supremacy.
Odds on him being arrested?
the manifesto literally has the navy seal copypasta in it
tired memes aside the manifesto explicitly frames the shooters attempt to hook in to the current culture war in the us and radicalise the participants - hence the choice of guns over other methods - so it needs to be read quite carefully as an instrumental document
This is how you get "It's ok to be white" and "European no-go zones" on the same continuum to mass shootings. These people know precisely what they're doing, and they're getting rich in the process.
Not everywhere is America
I do not like that my mind went there.
he was arrested alive so I think we will see more of it in the coming days
Jesus. Last thing I remembered from him was some drama on reddit that I ignored/forgot about. I guess I missed the crazy train...
There was a thing about this just a couple weeks ago about how few clicks from YouTube comments it took to get to a "pedophilia wormhole" that caused them to lose a bunch of advertisers and mass disable contents on videos featuring children. So it can happen, it just needs to be pushed.
The thing is that YouTube's knee-jerk response there didn't actually fix the problem, because the problem there, as well as here, is that YouTube is broken by design. Youtube's recommendation algorithm is designed to maximize "engagement",without regard for what that actually means contentwise. In addition, YouTube continues to use an archaic account system that makes it near impossible for channels to actually moderate themselves.
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From what I've seen so far, most social media discussions are a cess pool of victim blaming.