Decided I needed some more Ark for inheritance. Couldn't figure out how to make my saved team work. So I put in my Deathgaze team, and with only minor adjustments to the loadout I got it on the first try, and sub 30 after some practice.
That really tells you how goofy both of those fights are.
Y'know, now that I've randomly lucked into Tifa Awakening, it doesn't really make sense to plan on concentrating a large number of pulls on the Yuffie banner anymore. So...
Decided I needed some more Ark for inheritance. Couldn't figure out how to make my saved team work. So I put in my Deathgaze team, and with only minor adjustments to the loadout I got it on the first try, and sub 30 after some practice.
That really tells you how goofy both of those fights are.
I haven't done Ark yet, so good to know I have a good fallback strategy if Rem BSB and Raines BSB don't cut it.
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edited August 2019
Daily hit Kain lancet unique. One hit drains. I’m curious if the modifier is as good as leaping leech. My guess is no as this is a very early SB
AASB grants en-water and water imperil, with a chase every 3 that does minor imperil and boosts her water damage. Also an AOSB, a new USB2 (0CT water/me, en-water, water radiant shield, party hqc physical 2), a Glint with water empower/self crit 100% for 2 turns, and a Glint+ that does water empower and drops an Overstrike.
Free, 0CT overstrike. Yeah, ok.
Also along for the ride is Zeid and Curilla new stuff.
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Maybe its because they know a lot of us don't have great FFI stuff but this FFI banner is *terrible* 3 awakenings down to 1. If they put his old holy chain I might pull, but nope its a realm chain. All on Warrior of Light of course.
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Okay okay, roll like crazy on banner 2 then!
Ice weak dark odin is interesting. Doesn't really do much damage aside from comedy wrong element attacks, everything pierces. I just don't do enough damage with just Bartz & Terra I wonder if Rydia would do more damage then Terra. Terra can use her AOSB at the very end, Rydia could use her OSB multiple times. Rydia AASB gives a magic buff, but Terra AASB gives trance which gives a magic buff. HMMM.
To be fair, if you need torment help, banner 1 is real damn good. Realm chains pretty much solve torments by themselves if you have anything else at all going on. Meia stuff is very good for not having an awakening. Sarah's new ultra is perfectly fine, and you're probably going to be using at least one of WoL/Garland if not both.
For non-torment use, yeah it kinda sucks since as you said it's only one awakening and FF1 is not focused enough for the realm chain to be useful, although if you happened to hit WoL Awakening and USB3 (and optionally Glint+) he would be pretty darn good for holy teams. And Party Holy Boost 1 or Dark Boost 1 (stacking with repeated casts) isn't an awful offense boost to be tacked on to a medica.
I won't be drawing here though. I haven't anywhere near enough mythril to throw away that casually. I'm at least glad this stuff will be going into the FF1 pool to make the Luck of the Realms on Parade draw a bit more attractive.
tbh, I always feel bad when I'm pulling for a Torment. It's just like Realm Artifacts. It feels so weird getting just one relic for one dungeon. At least when I'm focusing on going for element artifacts/sbs I know I'll be able to use them in multiple fights. Like, for instance, Quistis USB. It feels like it's just tailormade for getting that FF8 Torment fight with not much use elsewhere.
Not much use elsewhere? It’s a stacking ATK/MAG boost on a character who can use it instantly with a legend dive, carry Shellga and black magic, and has Wrath access to potentially use it to set up without Mako Might. It’s a very nice generic party buff that I would say has strong uses in content up through Magicite.
Kinda like Gogo’s Bubsy. It’s very strong as a Torment tool, but it’s genetically useful in just about anything.
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Hmm Can't give Tyro a non support ability or he can't charge crit boost. Any thoughts?
Hmm Can't give Tyro a non support ability or he can't charge crit boost. Any thoughts?
Hone that Quad Foul, dawg
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Rydia has better doublecast chance than Terra (especially if you don't have Terra's doublecast LMR) Consider RM doublecast summon rather than +dmg depending on how much damage you are doing with Tritoch
Squeeze a dispel in there somewhere for haste (probably on Elarra). That version of Odin actually has non-uber speed, so haste is relevant, particularly since he gets faster cast times as rage builds up
if you feel like Odin isn't doing that much damage, consider dropping Tyro for more ice damage. Think you mentioned you had Eight USB, right?
something like this might be an idea. Sub in your Rydia awakening for this redditor's Squall. Healers would have to be tweaked, particularly since Rydia will be hogging the Tritoch (more ice summons when?).
Fry on
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Yeah that's what I have now. No one really needs extra meter though. Nothing much to do with it.
Ice weak dark odin is interesting. Doesn't really do much damage aside from comedy wrong element attacks, everything pierces. I just don't do enough damage with just Bartz & Terra I wonder if Rydia would do more damage then Terra. Terra can use her AOSB at the very end, Rydia could use her OSB multiple times. Rydia AASB gives a magic buff, but Terra AASB gives trance which gives a magic buff. HMMM.
Then perhaps he can use Wrath or Full Break until the USB reaches maximum crit, and then spam Freezing Snipe or Hailstorm to build meter in between using Full Break to keep the crit buff active. Not using Wrath would let him keep the ATK buff from Laguna’s chain.
Then perhaps he can use Wrath or Full Break until the USB reaches maximum crit, and then spam Freezing Snipe or Hailstorm to build meter in between using Full Break to keep the crit buff active. Not using Wrath would let him keep the ATK buff from Laguna’s chain.
Wrath/Full Break + (ice damage) means Tyro's not going to be Entrusting.
BUT you could go full comedy and have Tyro spend all that meter on Healing Grimoire, maybe even dump Elarra?!
Then perhaps he can use Wrath or Full Break until the USB reaches maximum crit, and then spam Freezing Snipe or Hailstorm to build meter in between using Full Break to keep the crit buff active. Not using Wrath would let him keep the ATK buff from Laguna’s chain.
Wrath/Full Break + (ice damage) means Tyro's not going to be Entrusting.
BUT you could go full comedy and have Tyro spend all that meter on Healing Grimoire, maybe even dump Elarra?!
He did say that nobody needs the extra meter, so I’m going with that; replace Entrust with a tad more ice damage, after the crit buff is established.
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Maybe its just a matter of keeping imperil up or not using AASB so early but I don't seem to have the gas for all powers awaken mode. Terra's AASB is 12k a hit, bartz OSB is only 20k. Didn't get a chance to send tyro AASB in lol. Bartz is capping everything all the time so he's not my issue. Laguna is too until skill slash leaves him with just lifesiphon. He just has too much life. I guess I could make Lunar Shiva and then swap to Rydia for the extra hit.
edit: No tyro isn't going to keep people alive through Elemental Drive in part 3.
Source: Elarra couldn't keep people alive through Elemental Drive in part 3.
Hmm Maybe Aeris/th or Relm would be better here? Couldn't use allegro con moto though so less casts from Terra. Assuming Allegro is doing anything ontop of her trance. Maybe try Bartz/Laguna with doublecast RM instead of +damage?
How badly did Elarra fail to keep people healed? Would occasional assistance from Healing Grimoire or (if you have it) Warder’s Apocrypha have kept you on your feet?
Alternatively, Tyro can carry Allegro Con Moto if you need to drop Elarra.
Not much use elsewhere? It’s a stacking ATK/MAG boost on a character who can use it instantly with a legend dive, carry Shellga and black magic, and has Wrath access to potentially use it to set up without Mako Might. It’s a very nice generic party buff that I would say has strong uses in content up through Magicite.
Kinda like Gogo’s Bubsy. It’s very strong as a Torment tool, but it’s genetically useful in just about anything.
Yeah but in my case her spot in my teams is already filled by characters like Tyro, OK, Mog and Edward. So in my specific case, I just don't see me using her outside FF8's torment.
How badly did Elarra fail to keep people healed? Would occasional assistance from Healing Grimoire or (if you have it) Warder’s Apocrypha have kept you on your feet?
Alternatively, Tyro can carry Allegro Con Moto if you need to drop Elarra.
I mean its full hp to>half>last stand>dead before she could get the turn in. I think I managed to waste a bar right before phase 3 though so maybe not her fault. Either way we did not have the damage to stop from getting run over by Zantatehteuteasfuiashk 3.
This is weird. 2 damage dealers was more than enough for Wind Weak. I guess Zidane>Terra. I suppose that's not fair since both my DPS are off elementing here. Maybe give Elarra mage song and give terra 100 ice magia so her and Bartz can be better friends.
Yeah, my luck has been overall pretty solid, I think. Just streak-y as hell, like where I'd hit 4 times in 5 days with 2 discoes, then have a month and a half with nothing.
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what? how? that's....a lot of battles!
That really tells you how goofy both of those fights are.
1/11 - Lightning USB3
Could be worse.
I haven't done Ark yet, so good to know I have a good fallback strategy if Rem BSB and Raines BSB don't cut it.
AASB grants en-water and water imperil, with a chase every 3 that does minor imperil and boosts her water damage. Also an AOSB, a new USB2 (0CT water/me, en-water, water radiant shield, party hqc physical 2), a Glint with water empower/self crit 100% for 2 turns, and a Glint+ that does water empower and drops an Overstrike.
Free, 0CT overstrike. Yeah, ok.
Also along for the ride is Zeid and Curilla new stuff.
I have done. Very nice vs Typhon.
Ice weak dark odin is interesting. Doesn't really do much damage aside from comedy wrong element attacks, everything pierces. I just don't do enough damage with just Bartz & Terra I wonder if Rydia would do more damage then Terra. Terra can use her AOSB at the very end, Rydia could use her OSB multiple times. Rydia AASB gives a magic buff, but Terra AASB gives trance which gives a magic buff. HMMM.
I've got
Laguna LS/Ice Offering Machinist+
Terra Wrath/Tritoch Ice+
Bartz LS/Snowspell weakness+
Tyro Wrath Entrust MM
Elarra BSB USB1 USB2 DMT
Mateus Wind10 Def15
Manticore Ice15 Ice15
Madeen Atk20 Atk20
Madeen ♥8♥8
Phoenix Spell8 Blade8
Maybe give Tyro some kind of crappy ice damage instead of wrath?
Then
Matoya and Master awakenings
MWO: Adamski
For non-torment use, yeah it kinda sucks since as you said it's only one awakening and FF1 is not focused enough for the realm chain to be useful, although if you happened to hit WoL Awakening and USB3 (and optionally Glint+) he would be pretty darn good for holy teams. And Party Holy Boost 1 or Dark Boost 1 (stacking with repeated casts) isn't an awful offense boost to be tacked on to a medica.
I won't be drawing here though. I haven't anywhere near enough mythril to throw away that casually. I'm at least glad this stuff will be going into the FF1 pool to make the Luck of the Realms on Parade draw a bit more attractive.
Kinda like Gogo’s Bubsy. It’s very strong as a Torment tool, but it’s genetically useful in just about anything.
Wrath/Entrust is always a strong combo. Give Elarra or Laguna extra meter whilst building that crit-rate buff.
Hone that Quad Foul, dawg
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Rydia has better doublecast chance than Terra (especially if you don't have Terra's doublecast LMR) Consider RM doublecast summon rather than +dmg depending on how much damage you are doing with Tritoch
Squeeze a dispel in there somewhere for haste (probably on Elarra). That version of Odin actually has non-uber speed, so haste is relevant, particularly since he gets faster cast times as rage builds up
if you feel like Odin isn't doing that much damage, consider dropping Tyro for more ice damage. Think you mentioned you had Eight USB, right?
something like this might be an idea. Sub in your Rydia awakening for this redditor's Squall. Healers would have to be tweaked, particularly since Rydia will be hogging the Tritoch (more ice summons when?).
Wrath/Full Break + (ice damage) means Tyro's not going to be Entrusting.
BUT you could go full comedy and have Tyro spend all that meter on Healing Grimoire, maybe even dump Elarra?!
He did say that nobody needs the extra meter, so I’m going with that; replace Entrust with a tad more ice damage, after the crit buff is established.
edit: No tyro isn't going to keep people alive through Elemental Drive in part 3.
Source: Elarra couldn't keep people alive through Elemental Drive in part 3.
Hmm Maybe Aeris/th or Relm would be better here? Couldn't use allegro con moto though so less casts from Terra. Assuming Allegro is doing anything ontop of her trance. Maybe try Bartz/Laguna with doublecast RM instead of +damage?
Alternatively, Tyro can carry Allegro Con Moto if you need to drop Elarra.
edit to respond to post below: they did eventually get Dark Ixion to cover lightning damage
Yeah but in my case her spot in my teams is already filled by characters like Tyro, OK, Mog and Edward. So in my specific case, I just don't see me using her outside FF8's torment.
I mean its full hp to>half>last stand>dead before she could get the turn in. I think I managed to waste a bar right before phase 3 though so maybe not her fault. Either way we did not have the damage to stop from getting run over by Zantatehteuteasfuiashk 3.
This is weird. 2 damage dealers was more than enough for Wind Weak. I guess Zidane>Terra. I suppose that's not fair since both my DPS are off elementing here. Maybe give Elarra mage song and give terra 100 ice magia so her and Bartz can be better friends.
Next week should be the one year mark for the improved daily relic rates. How has your luck fared?
Some of my stats (yes, I am a total nerd and kept track)
Total relics: 52
Hit rate: 14%
Dupes: 17
Time until first hit: 32 days
Best month: March 2019 (8 hits)
Far more dupes and no SB/shared SBs than I would like, but hey it's light years better than the old rates!