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[Open Spoilers] The Movie called "Us" made by Jordan Peele IS a horror movie

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  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    Straightzi wrote: »
    Mr. G wrote: »
    It’s an odd thing where the story doesn’t make much literal sense but the metaphor is so potent it doesn’t really matter

    Which metaphor?

    Like, I don't think this movie has a direct one-to-one metaphorical life, and I'm not sure I'm approaching it from the same direction as you at this point.

    I think the clearest metaphor is a class warfare haves vs have-nots sort of thing, but I don't think that's the only interpretation by a fair margin.

    Which is why I think it’s so potent, because it has so many applications that are all equally valid

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  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    They used the shot of Red choking Adelaide in the trailer??

    It’s like the third to last shot of the movie! The whole thing is built on you don’t know what she saw!!

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  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Mr. G wrote: »
    They used the shot of Red choking Adelaide in the trailer??

    It’s like the third to last shot of the movie! The whole thing is built on you don’t know what she saw!!

    Trailers are terrible.

  • -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    I watched that trailer many times but forgot about that shot until it happened

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    I feel like putting huge spoilers in the trailer without context to understand them is something that's going to be a running thing for Peele. I don't know, I might not watch the next one.

  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    I think peele actively likes telling you exactly whats going to happen

    hes done it at the beginning of both his movies

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  • HermanoHermano Registered User regular
    I don't think the movie would really work as well without the twist, it's fundamentally important to show that the only differences between the Tethered and the surface people are down to circumstance.

    Without the twist, there's the lingering question of how human they actually are, as we only see them really performing acts of violence, terror and mimicry.

    The twist shows they could have lead normal, happy lives like Adelaide, given the opportunity. It adds a depth that wouldn't be there if they're just passed off as spooky monsters


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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    Hermano wrote: »
    I don't think the movie would really work as well without the twist, it's fundamentally important to show that the only differences between the Tethered and the surface people are down to circumstance.

    Without the twist, there's the lingering question of how human they actually are, as we only see them really performing acts of violence, terror and mimicry.

    The twist shows they could have lead normal, happy lives like Adelaide, given the opportunity. It adds a depth that wouldn't be there if they're just passed off as spooky monsters

    I think the twist still works if they're spooky monsters. Adelaide taking Red's place in the shadow world is just as chilling of a concept as taking her place in a series of convenient underground tunnels.

  • -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    Peele also likes to have lots of plausible explanations of what's going on and have characters within the movie speculate

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  • HermanoHermano Registered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    Hermano wrote: »
    I don't think the movie would really work as well without the twist, it's fundamentally important to show that the only differences between the Tethered and the surface people are down to circumstance.

    Without the twist, there's the lingering question of how human they actually are, as we only see them really performing acts of violence, terror and mimicry.

    The twist shows they could have lead normal, happy lives like Adelaide, given the opportunity. It adds a depth that wouldn't be there if they're just passed off as spooky monsters

    I think the twist still works if they're spooky monsters. Adelaide taking Red's place in the shadow world is just as chilling of a concept as taking her place in a series of convenient underground tunnels.

    It'd still be chilling, sure, but I think then you'd lose the tragedy of the Tethered, of people just abandoned underground and slowly driven mad. It also torpedoes the metaphors the film was going for, of class struggle and privilege, if they're not human like the surface people

    Like I can see why the twist was deflating, I was kind of let down at first too, as it seemed very obvious, but the more I think about it the more it seems key to the whole movie


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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    I’m definitely excited to see it again

  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    I think peele actively likes telling you exactly whats going to happen

    hes done it at the beginning of both his movies

    directors don't usually have much say in what goes into the trailers, do they?

  • ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    yeah that's what I was gonna say, that's why trailers are usually terrible

  • QuetziQuetzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User, Moderator mod
    I think the twist is important

    It's the placement that I don't like

    Doing it in that cliche horror stinger style makes it much less effective

  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    Straightzi wrote: »
    I think the twist is important

    It's the placement that I don't like

    Doing it in that cliche horror stinger style makes it much less effective

    I wonder if it’d be better if they did that as Adelaide (actually Red, boy this makes it hard to talk about) descended the escalator, alternate the image with her as a kid going up

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  • -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    The twist makes everything fit together and reframes everything you have just seen as a tragic tale of revengeance

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  • QuetziQuetzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Mr. G wrote: »
    Straightzi wrote: »
    I think the twist is important

    It's the placement that I don't like

    Doing it in that cliche horror stinger style makes it much less effective

    I wonder if it’d be better if they did that as Adelaide (actually Red, boy this makes it hard to talk about) descended the escalator, alternate the image with her as a kid going up

    That sounds way better to me, at very least.

  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Yeah, I can't wait to see it again now that i know the story.

    I want to start picking apart all of the little signs and symbols that I know are out there.

  • -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    Another thematically important scene is when tim heidecker really doesn't want to get up from his comfy spot to go look at what's happening outside

    No one knows about the tethered, but they also don't want to know about the tethered. It makes their situation more tragic that they're so close to the surface, that if anyone bothered to look they could find them

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  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    Tim Heidecker is so good in this movie

    Elisabeth Moss is too but she has a very long track record of being very good

    Heidecker’s Tethered version has such a weird fun swagger and should be in for another 15 minutes

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  • -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    I'm surprised I haven't seen more reaction to the other twist of the tethered being a nationwide phenomenon and not just being specific to this one family

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    -Tal wrote: »
    I'm surprised I haven't seen more reaction to the other twist of the tethered being a nationwide phenomenon and not just being specific to this one family

    That was what I thought the big twist was when it came.

  • Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    edited March 2019
    Straightzi wrote: »
    I think the twist is important

    It's the placement that I don't like

    Doing it in that cliche horror stinger style makes it much less effective

    i think the placement is perfect

    i think doing it at the last possible second, knowing everything you know, it works to recontextualize a lot

    and it purposely plays with the typical horror stinger formula of "the danger isn't really over"

    like adelaide having been red this entire time actually doesn't pose a threat to anyone in that car. so, what does it mean then?

    it's not the most intricate of nudges, but i like it as a pivot point

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  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Tim Heidecker's tethered pulling the sike out was the highlight of the movie.

  • -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    tim heidecker was born to play the obnoxious white neighbor

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  • GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    Holy shit this movie

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  • NarbusNarbus Registered User regular
    What the fuck was up with the rabbits

  • Sweeney TomSweeney Tom try The Substance it changed my lifeRegistered User regular
    Were imprisoned in cages in 11 rows of 11 (fully visible in the title credits scene)
    Have scissor-like ears
    Creep out Jordan Peele

  • -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    Narbus wrote: »
    What the fuck was up with the rabbits

    The movie opens on caved rabbits to plant in your mind the idea of animals bred for labratory experiments, which is what the tethered are

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  • miscellaneousinsanitymiscellaneousinsanity grass grows, birds fly, sun shines, and brother, i hurt peopleRegistered User regular
    https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/movies/a26944087/jordan-peele-us-rabbit-meaning-explained-theory/

    there's also a rabbit silhouette in the negative space of the trailer's title card

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  • QuetziQuetzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Also it fits with the Alice imagery

    And arguably Jason's interest in magic could be linked in there too

  • DodgeBlanDodgeBlan PSN: dodgeblanRegistered User regular
    I enjoyed this movie... but I am I the only person that thought it wasn't scary or unsettling enough? Some of the imagery is really scary but I felt like they went to hard on the comedy and the cutesy touches (like staging the final confrontation to I've got 5 in it)

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  • QuetziQuetzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Eh, almost all good horror is intercut with some comedy, it didn't really bother me

    And if the girl sitting behind me in the theater is to be trusted, it was extremely scary

  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    DodgeBlan wrote: »
    I enjoyed this movie... but I am I the only person that thought it wasn't scary or unsettling enough? Some of the imagery is really scary but I felt like they went to hard on the comedy and the cutesy touches (like staging the final confrontation to I've got 5 in it)

    that song was PERFECT there, id be bummed if it was anything else

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  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    DodgeBlan wrote: »
    I enjoyed this movie... but I am I the only person that thought it wasn't scary or unsettling enough? Some of the imagery is really scary but I felt like they went to hard on the comedy and the cutesy touches (like staging the final confrontation to I've got 5 in it)

    Peele is aiming at a really broad audience and therefore undercuts the horror with humor or other different feelings. For my part, I like it a lot more this way.

  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    I legit think the remix of I Got 5 On It is one of the most brilliant uses of music in maybe ANY movie

    It’s such a stroke of genius

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  • durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    I don't think the comedic parts of Peele's movies undercut the horror. The comedy comes from folks thinking they have a handle on things, like how in Get Out there's a lot of humor taken from the "haha shit, your family am I right?". Then, it turns out they don't have a handle on things!

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  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    So I went into this mostly blind, having seen the first trailer months ago.

    I had NO idea there’d be more doubles than just the Wilsons. I figured the Tylers would be the victims when the movie moved to their house. The plot would stay there for a while as the tethered Wilsons kill the Tylers.

    So when tethered Tylers come out of nowhere and jack the family, damn. It was the presentation: just swift and brutal. No scare chords. No shitty cuts everywhere. Just four quick kills that flowed from the Tylers just casually talking. All set to the Beach Boys. Incredible.

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  • pyromaniac221pyromaniac221 this just might be an interestin YTRegistered User regular
    I liked this movie. It wasn't as clean and zeroed in as Get Out was, but it was more ambitious in the tonal marriage of comedy and horror. Maybe didn't work in every instance, but it's fascinating to watch Peele work through this stuff.

    The busyness of the film worked against it, I felt. There are so many ideas packed in and so much going on that it becomes a tough juggle, the first house scene in particular had some jarring edits that kinda seized up the momentum it was building. The monologue that precedes the final clash of the Lupitas also hiccups rights when it seems that the film is building up some escape velocity for the big finish. Just didn't really feel necessary.

    Anyway, Lupita deserves the Oscar and the moment where her tethered character first speaks made me react viscerally in a way that I rarely do to movies.

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  • PeasPeas Registered User regular
    edited March 2019
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