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(First season DS9.) Someone really needs to take Bashir aside, and talk with him about sexual harassment. I hope they drop that bit of characterization soon.
(First season DS9.) Someone really needs to take Bashir aside, and talk with him about sexual harassment. I hope they drop that bit of characterization soon.
There's a few characters who would otherwise be likeable scamps who are made very not through egregious sexual harassment early in DS9. Bashir and Quark most notably.
(First season DS9.) Someone really needs to take Bashir aside, and talk with him about sexual harassment. I hope they drop that bit of characterization soon.
They mellow the fuck out of it as they figure out Bashir's character. Like a lot of romance stuff in Star Trek it comes off somewhere between cheesy and creepy.
(First season DS9.) Someone really needs to take Bashir aside, and talk with him about sexual harassment. I hope they drop that bit of characterization soon.
There's a few characters who would otherwise be likeable scamps who are made very not through egregious sexual harassment early in DS9. Bashir and Quark most notably.
Quark is major Ferengi, which is why it's "bizarre" that his brother treats people decently later on. Bashir is a bit much in modern terms (and it does go away later), but Quark is pretty tolerable for his species while still being an alien. He's scummy because his whole culture is scummy, and I feel like the series leans on that to show that this otherwise-likeable scamp backs some pretty horrible and oppressive ideas, kind of like a reality check to make sure people aren't enjoying him too much for being a rascal rather than a sizeable monster.
(First season DS9.) Someone really needs to take Bashir aside, and talk with him about sexual harassment. I hope they drop that bit of characterization soon.
There's a few characters who would otherwise be likeable scamps who are made very not through egregious sexual harassment early in DS9. Bashir and Quark most notably.
Quark is major Ferengi, which is why it's "bizarre" that his brother doesn't force his wife into an exploitative relationship. Bashir is a bit much in modern terms (and it does go away later), but Quark is pretty tolerable for his species while still being an alien. He's scummy because his whole culture is scummy, and I feel like the series leans on that to show that this otherwise-likeable scamp backs some pretty horrible and oppressive ideas, kind of like a reality check to make sure people aren't enjoying him too much for being a rascal rather than a sizeable monster.
I think it's more that for some reason they decided Ferengi also had to be horrible misogynists (and this was right from the start in TNG too as I remember). And occasionally the writers of a particular episode will really lean into that and other times the different writers of a different episode will soften it. Because the second set know that the characters all work better when they don't have such blatantly horrible attitudes towards women for no damn reason.
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AbsoluteZeroThe new film by Quentin KoopantinoRegistered Userregular
(First season DS9.) Someone really needs to take Bashir aside, and talk with him about sexual harassment. I hope they drop that bit of characterization soon.
There's a few characters who would otherwise be likeable scamps who are made very not through egregious sexual harassment early in DS9. Bashir and Quark most notably.
I really, really disliked Bashir until probably some time well into season 2 when he became tolerable and less of a creep.
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Metzger MeisterIt Gets Worsebefore it gets any better.Registered Userregular
It's when he starts dating Garak that he starts getting better.
Ok I realize the future is kumbaya hippie land but one would think they would at least put some minimal security procedures in place to keep random assholes from wandering onto the bridge.
Such as the 20-century rich dude who just got unfrozen and keep demanding to speak with the manager.
“I was quick when I came in here, I’m twice as quick now”
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
Ok I realize the future is kumbaya hippie land but one would think they would at least put some minimal security procedures in place to keep random assholes from wandering onto the bridge.
Such as the 20-century rich dude who just got unfrozen and keep demanding to speak with the manager.
I unironically liked that he saw through the Romulan bluff though.
Yeah early Bashir had huge dialogue-never-looked-at-by-a-woman syndrome
then from like mid season 2 onwards they must've had someone who can write flirty dialogue that isn't hugely creepy work on his lines because he goes from creepy and awkward to smooth and likeable within the space of a few episodes
I chalk it up to Bashir being fresh out of the academy and probably very socially awkward throughout a lot of his childhood and teen years. Now he's out in the galaxy with other adults who have been out of the academy for years and just takes a little while to adjust and lose that fresh-out-of-the-academy awkwardness.
He's downright charming in later seasons. Bashir's character development over the course of DS9 is one of my favourite parts of the series.
I tell you what, it’s really nice to be watching TNG for the first time and be able to find out at a moments notice exactly why a character was suddenly removed from the show.
It must have been confusing for fans when the second season started and Dr. Crusher was gone.
“I was quick when I came in here, I’m twice as quick now”
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
Man I know the holodeck is fun and everything but it’s fucked up so many times that if I was made captain the first order given would be to seal that room off and fill it with concrete like at Chernobyl.
“I was quick when I came in here, I’m twice as quick now”
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
Man I know the holodeck is fun and everything but it’s fucked up so many times that if I was made captain the first order given would be to seal that room off and fill it with concrete like at Chernobyl.
"Computer, create true sentience by accident."
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daveNYCWhy universe hate Waspinator?Registered Userregular
Man I know the holodeck is fun and everything but it’s fucked up so many times that if I was made captain the first order given would be to seal that room off and fill it with concrete like at Chernobyl.
"Computer, create true sentience by accident."
And the catch-22 in that sentence would probably trigger the ship's self-destruct.
Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
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SnicketysnickThe Greatest Hype Man inWesterosRegistered Userregular
Apparently he didn't, but the people he told did. Eventually she told them directly, I think.
She's terrific in the show, and she has the best hats ever made. The conversation she has with Picard in Measure of a Man is maybe her best, but she has a lot of great moments.
(First season DS9.) Someone really needs to take Bashir aside, and talk with him about sexual harassment. I hope they drop that bit of characterization soon.
There's a few characters who would otherwise be likeable scamps who are made very not through egregious sexual harassment early in DS9. Bashir and Quark most notably.
Quark is major Ferengi, which is why it's "bizarre" that his brother doesn't force his wife into an exploitative relationship. Bashir is a bit much in modern terms (and it does go away later), but Quark is pretty tolerable for his species while still being an alien. He's scummy because his whole culture is scummy, and I feel like the series leans on that to show that this otherwise-likeable scamp backs some pretty horrible and oppressive ideas, kind of like a reality check to make sure people aren't enjoying him too much for being a rascal rather than a sizeable monster.
I think it's more that for some reason they decided Ferengi also had to be horrible misogynists (and this was right from the start in TNG too as I remember). And occasionally the writers of a particular episode will really lean into that and other times the different writers of a different episode will soften it. Because the second set know that the characters all work better when they don't have such blatantly horrible attitudes towards women for no damn reason.
To be fair, blatantly horrible attitudes towards women for no damn reason describes most modern humans, and the Ferengi are pretty much just making fun of modern humans.
Apparently he didn't, but the people he told did. Eventually she told them directly, I think.
She's terrific in the show, and she has the best hats ever made. The conversation she has with Picard in Measure of a Man is maybe her best, but she has a lot of great moments.
Your right she does have alot of great moments
Like when Q shows up and when she sees him she basically hisses and throws up claw-hands and Q is all 'Picard get her away from me!'
Apparently he didn't, but the people he told did. Eventually she told them directly, I think.
She's terrific in the show, and she has the best hats ever made. The conversation she has with Picard in Measure of a Man is maybe her best, but she has a lot of great moments.
Your right she does have alot of great moments
Like when Q shows up and when she sees him she basically hisses and throws up claw-hands and Q is all 'Picard get her away from me!'
I loved this bit and love it more that it is never explained or alluded to ever again
The fact that Guinan is some kind of godlike entity just sits in Star Trek’s back pocket forever
I also love her in Yesterday's Enterprise, where she just tells Picard she has a feeling something's wrong and he says oh hmmm a feeling eh I'd better do something about it and he means it. There are a lot of people I hope turn up in Picard when it airs but she's maybe top of the list.
I think they'll avoid most if not all of the TNG crew, though. Which is a shame but I don't want the story they're telling to stop so they can jerk off five minutes of fan service.
I also love her in Yesterday's Enterprise, where she just tells Picard she has a feeling something's wrong and he says oh hmmm a feeling eh I'd better do something about it and he means it. There are a lot of people I hope turn up in Picard when it airs but she's maybe top of the list.
I think they'll avoid most if not all of the TNG crew, though. Which is a shame but I don't want the story they're telling to stop so they can jerk off five minutes of fan service.
I want to pretend like I am better than stopping the story to jerk off to fan service but
I'm not
I'm really not
Please have Guinan and Geordi and Data and Riker please
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HardtargetThere Are Four LightsVancouverRegistered Userregular
I also love her in Yesterday's Enterprise, where she just tells Picard she has a feeling something's wrong and he says oh hmmm a feeling eh I'd better do something about it and he means it. There are a lot of people I hope turn up in Picard when it airs but she's maybe top of the list.
I think they'll avoid most if not all of the TNG crew, though. Which is a shame but I don't want the story they're telling to stop so they can jerk off five minutes of fan service.
I want to pretend like I am better than stopping the story to jerk off to fan service but
I'm not
I'm really not
Please have Guinan and Geordi and Data and Riker please
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but god that episode was a trashfire
There's a few characters who would otherwise be likeable scamps who are made very not through egregious sexual harassment early in DS9. Bashir and Quark most notably.
They mellow the fuck out of it as they figure out Bashir's character. Like a lot of romance stuff in Star Trek it comes off somewhere between cheesy and creepy.
Quark is major Ferengi, which is why it's "bizarre" that his brother treats people decently later on. Bashir is a bit much in modern terms (and it does go away later), but Quark is pretty tolerable for his species while still being an alien. He's scummy because his whole culture is scummy, and I feel like the series leans on that to show that this otherwise-likeable scamp backs some pretty horrible and oppressive ideas, kind of like a reality check to make sure people aren't enjoying him too much for being a rascal rather than a sizeable monster.
I think it's more that for some reason they decided Ferengi also had to be horrible misogynists (and this was right from the start in TNG too as I remember). And occasionally the writers of a particular episode will really lean into that and other times the different writers of a different episode will soften it. Because the second set know that the characters all work better when they don't have such blatantly horrible attitudes towards women for no damn reason.
I really, really disliked Bashir until probably some time well into season 2 when he became tolerable and less of a creep.
Such as the 20-century rich dude who just got unfrozen and keep demanding to speak with the manager.
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
I unironically liked that he saw through the Romulan bluff though.
I liked Quark's Klingon ex-wife. I'm sad she's in so few episodes.
then from like mid season 2 onwards they must've had someone who can write flirty dialogue that isn't hugely creepy work on his lines because he goes from creepy and awkward to smooth and likeable within the space of a few episodes
I chalk it up to Bashir being fresh out of the academy and probably very socially awkward throughout a lot of his childhood and teen years. Now he's out in the galaxy with other adults who have been out of the academy for years and just takes a little while to adjust and lose that fresh-out-of-the-academy awkwardness.
He's downright charming in later seasons. Bashir's character development over the course of DS9 is one of my favourite parts of the series.
It must have been confusing for fans when the second season started and Dr. Crusher was gone.
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
Like, who the heck thinks “you know what this show needs? A bar. With Whoopi fuckin Goldberg as the universe’s most chill barkeep.”
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
A genius
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
"Computer, create true sentience by accident."
And the catch-22 in that sentence would probably trigger the ship's self-destruct.
Apparently she spent the whole of the first series asking Levar Burton if she could get a part on the show and he thought she was joking.
She's terrific in the show, and she has the best hats ever made. The conversation she has with Picard in Measure of a Man is maybe her best, but she has a lot of great moments.
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To be fair, blatantly horrible attitudes towards women for no damn reason describes most modern humans, and the Ferengi are pretty much just making fun of modern humans.
Your right she does have alot of great moments
Like when Q shows up and when she sees him she basically hisses and throws up claw-hands and Q is all 'Picard get her away from me!'
I loved this bit and love it more that it is never explained or alluded to ever again
The fact that Guinan is some kind of godlike entity just sits in Star Trek’s back pocket forever
I think they'll avoid most if not all of the TNG crew, though. Which is a shame but I don't want the story they're telling to stop so they can jerk off five minutes of fan service.
Choose Your Own Chat 1 Choose Your Own Chat 2 Choose Your Own Chat 3
I want to pretend like I am better than stopping the story to jerk off to fan service but
I'm not
I'm really not
Please have Guinan and Geordi and Data and Riker please
whoopi did. since she herself pleaded to be in the show since she LOVED what Nichelle Nichols did in TOS
I can see some complaints
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I am very hyped for this
Some people are just sour grapes.
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