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[Dem Primary] — Debate July 30-31 — “For the love of God stop talking about 2016”
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Anyone outside of Biden, Warren, Sanders and Harris should probably quit at this point like if you're polling single figures post debate what exactly are you doing now.
It’s a good way to raise their profile and come out ahead. 538 did an article on it.
So yeah the field will likely be whittled down to 10-15 by December and 7 or 8 after Iowa. And 3 after March with the winner being obvious.
And I would had bet that this thread gets early locked. 8 pages yet, but still.
Eh I dunno we have a republican guy like this in washington state named Dino Rossi, he runs for a lot of different senate, governor, and I think recently a house seat, every time he loses its hilarious, but you lose often enough and people just think of you as a loser.
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Huge difference between getting in early in a primary, giving some speeches and doing a debate or two and then withdrawing from the race versus continually taking it to the end and losing. The only folks who are going to get damaged by this are folks who aren't really ready to have any kind of spotlight on them and fuck up in a debate or something.
The annoying bit of this whole thing is that candidates who are here to primarily build name recognition (and maybe lottery ticket style test the waters) can under no circumstance admit that they are doing that.
Damn, at this rate Biden is going to last less than Jeb!. If I were the donor class, I would easily put money into a Harris/Booker ticket. The appearance of change without actually having to change anything.
Wealthy donors are on the Anyone But Warren train.
"Like, just to use a completely made up hypothetical, if some guy running for president had come in here last week and done a little dance while yelling 'I'm Joe, I'm a pretty pretty princess,' it would have been totally fine. Nobody would be able to hold it against him, because that was acceptable way back then. I'm just saying, we should be understanding of this guy who, maybe this morning, also might have said something unflattering about the homosexual gentleman at the bakery."
You know, if I thought that the MSM was capable of being subtle, I would say that this is a pro-Harris article, if only because it only makes the "fuck Biden" voices louder.
It's probably an anecdote of a thing he literally saw. I've seen similar things myself.
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Is this supposed to make me think less of her somehow?
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But i am starting to like her just out of contrarines.
I'd say the Willie Horton add is pretty notorious. It's also pretty gross. It's also unbelievable fucking goddsdam wow racist.
Article from the 2018 midterm: This is the 30-year-old Willie Horton ad everybody is talking about today
The Republicans have been pulling this shit for decades and I 'm not surprised to see it happening in the Dem primary, let alone the general.
I did not know this. Whats the story?
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Mostly cause of her plans to change corporate tax impact and break up monopolies.
The positions he needs to take to stay relevant in the Presidential primary are not those that will help him in a TX senate race
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"Oh my god! They spent a long time trying to gain the upper hand on an opponent... and they were planning to follow it up in a manner that made people more likely to vote for them? ... distressing if true. I prefer my candidates to just sort of lie down at the top of a hill and roll gently toward victory."
I think it usually is a self-serving argument to say contentious primaries are beneficial. But its very very early right now. In 10 months on April 30, 2020, we will almost certainly know who the nominee is going to be even if the people who don't support him or her don't want to admit it. We will actually almost certainly know by March 30 or even by March 4 but lets say its April 30 any rational doubt is gone. The primary has to be in part about on May 1, or whatever day it becomes clear who is the nominee, every candidate can rally their supporters to the nominee without appearing like a complete bullshitter or betrayer of what he or she had been saying.
So Kamala prefacing her attack on Biden with "I don't think you're a racist and I compliment your attempts to find common ground" (paraphrased) matters. But if Beto says Mayor Pete is a pseudo Nazi who eats babies every Tuesday, then that is not great.
I think most of the relevant candidates and their surrogates/supporters are going to do what is necessary and appropriate and hopefully the ones who won't don't stay relevant long.
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http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/04/democrat-mj-hegar-will-challenge-senator-john-cornyn-in-2020.html
So now we have a candidate in the debate complaining about having his mic cut, and another candidate complaining about how there were no mics cut at all.
Being Jewish will not protect him on this front. Probably make it worse, honestly.
Beto is going to look like an ass if he pivots to running for Senate again. We have a popular candidate already running: MJ Hegar. If he jumps back in to try another senate run, it's going to look like he's pushing aside a strong (Air Force veteran) woman.
Whatever Beto had in the last Senate race, he's lost it.
Sure seems like it. I wish he had focused on state-level office. Or even Mayor of El Paso or something. He built a great organization in Texas that helped flip some House seats blue, and a number of state offices flipped blue in 2018 as well. If he had kept that organization focused and engaged here in Texas, we might have been able to make some big changes for 2020.
I was an enthusiastic supporter of him in 2018; today he's barely top-10 for me in the primary.
Yeah, the biggest thing about his Senate run was all the help he gave the downticket races, like sweeping out all but one Republican judge in Houston for instance. He got otherwise disengaged Democratic voters in Texas to turn out. He could do the same thing again for another Senate run next year or governor or other big statewide office even if his run is ultimately futile again.
Unfortunately either no one told him that his job was to take one for the team/greater good or he forgot that was the point and now he's on some weird quixotic ego trip or something, burning all the goodwill he had garnered.