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It's All Actualization Up in the [Personal and Emotional Growth] Thread

burboburbo Registered User regular
Now that I'm (well into) my 30s, I've found I have become much more interested in something my 20s self thought was super lame. Now I want to like, you know, grow, as a person. I guess I finally figured I could only get so far blaming my parents for shit, and my youth was rapidly losing it's efficacy as an excuse. Eventually, I guess, I decided a person just has to try and figure some shit out, and may struggle their way to some change.

I've tried a handful of different approaches, I'm certainly not an expert and definitely not enlightened, but lately I've found a few approaches that are helpful for me.

As a general framework for thinking about and dealing with emotions, rather than psychoanalyis and introspection, I've found a lot of benefit from looking at things with an ACT (Acceptance and Committment Therapy) approach. This is basically about using mindfulness techniques to defuse with unhelpful thoughts and emotions, and redirecting your energy towards actions that will help you align with your values. Very practical kind of thing that I've found pretty useful. There are some pretty good books to get started on this too, and since it is kind of skill building and pretty nonspecific in it's application, it is much less dependent on a good therapist than a lot of other shit I've tried in the past

A media resource that I like as well, as kind of bite size food for thought pieces of insight and wisdom, is the School of Life channel on Youtube. I don't agree with everything they say, and usually their videos are too short to really get in depth on any subject, but I find it helpful as kind of a quick reminder of how to reframe my thoughts into a more helpful perspective on various things, I'd recommend looking at their shit for anyone interested in this stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/user/schooloflifechannel

Anyone else finding themselves pretty interested in personal or emotional growth these days? How has the process been? Have you found any resources or approaches that you find useful?

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  • Mortal SkyMortal Sky queer punk hedge witchRegistered User regular
    I've put a lot of effort into self-growth in the past year and a half or so

    Honestly, one thing I do a lot of is self-examination. What I'm feeling, why I'm feeling it, and whether or not it's something I can work on. The trick is to figure out the fine line between being self-conscious (judging oneself) and self-aware (knowing oneself), and sorting out the difference. Sometimes a bit of self-consciousness is fine, but most of the time it's a matter of accepting how things are and then addressing the things that don't feel right.

    For the stuff that does need improvement, I'm always pretty gentle on myself - building positive habits over a long time has been a lot more effective than trying to affect sudden radical changes in my lifestyle

    I don't know how much sense this all makes but it works for me

  • burboburbo Registered User regular
    I think that's pretty interesting.

    I used to do a lot of the self-examination/introspection thing in particular. One of the really kind of unintuitive things about the ACT stuff I've been working on though, is that they don't really recommend that kind of thing. They would say that in the end, your thoughts and feelings are a lot of chatter, and sometimes they mean something and sometimes they don't. If we spend a lot of energy chasing down the source of all of those things, we may learn some stuff about ourselves, but most of the time it doesn't help us change or align with our values.

    I don't know if I agree with that all the way or not, but it's definitely been a refreshing thing to try. There's a kind of freedom in treating your brain like a radio, knowing that it will always be blabbering away, and just being like "Yeah, ok, thanks brain, I see you there. Anyway, I'm going to keep on doing the important stuff in my life".

  • burboburbo Registered User regular
    Mortal Sky wrote: »
    I've put a lot of effort into self-growth in the past year and a half or so

    Honestly, one thing I do a lot of is self-examination. What I'm feeling, why I'm feeling it, and whether or not it's something I can work on. The trick is to figure out the fine line between being self-conscious (judging oneself) and self-aware (knowing oneself), and sorting out the difference. Sometimes a bit of self-consciousness is fine, but most of the time it's a matter of accepting how things are and then addressing the things that don't feel right.

    For the stuff that does need improvement, I'm always pretty gentle on myself - building positive habits over a long time has been a lot more effective than trying to affect sudden radical changes in my lifestyle

    I don't know how much sense this all makes but it works for me

    If you don't mind too much sharing, what do you think prompted you to want to focus on self growth?

  • Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    i bought a laserdisc player that can also play dvds

    i am changing every day

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  • RT800RT800 Registered User regular
    In my 30's I figure I'm pretty much done growing and now I'm just aging.

    *heavy sigh*

  • ElaroElaro Apologetic Registered User regular
    I just regained my agency! It was hidden in the middle of my brain!

    Actually, I always knew where it was, I just didn't have the agency to take charge of it.

    Children's rights are human rights.
  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Central OhioRegistered User regular
    Having a kid definitely made me reassess things. There’s new pressures that I’m working on dealing with, but also a stark, real-human-poop-in-your-face reminder that other stuff you’ve worried about isn’t important at all.

    Also all my negative emotions usually come out on this board, allowing me to be a even-tempered cat the rest of the time.

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  • burboburbo Registered User regular
    Hahaha. So good of you to use the internet as a whole as your poor abused stress ball.

  • Descendant XDescendant X Skyrim is my god now. Outpost 31Registered User regular
    edited June 2019
    With my change in jobs two years ago I've been finding that I probably need a lot more of this kind of stuff in my life. I do find myself losing patience more often, or at least I'm noticing it more and allowing it to take a greater toll on my mental well-being. I think my meltdown (so to speak) back in May of 2017 opened up some doors that have yet to be properly examined before I can close them again. I've also been dealing with medical issues over the past year that have gotten to me more than I thought they did - the week before last I left work at noon after receiving more bad(ish) news and took the week off. Those four and a half days did more for my mental health than I can say. It is obvious that I badly needed to take some time for myself that wasn't dictated by anyone or anything.

    I have finally realized after almost 15 years that I respond to a stressful day by feeling nauseated the next morning, which in the past has resulted in me taking the day off and running down my sick days. For example, the day after I left work at noon I spent the day feeling pretty horrible. Last week I was having one of those mornings and tried taking a single Gravol before I went to work and it sorted me right out. Now that I've figured out a treatment for the symptoms I need to figure out to tackle the issue properly.

    My place of work has a lot of resources they offer to employees to manage stress and burnout. Perhaps I should have a look at one of them.

    Descendant X on
    Garry: I know you gentlemen have been through a lot, but when you find the time I'd rather not spend the rest of the winter TIED TO THIS FUCKING COUCH!
  • DepressperadoDepressperado I just wanted to see you laughing in the pizza rainRegistered User regular
    I am gonna quit smoking

    I did pretty good, got a couple days, but I let some shithead in Red Dead Online frustrate me to the point where I like, logged off, got in my car, and fumed about it until I got to Wawa and bought a pack of cigarettes and was halfway through one when I was like "wtf is my problem, forget that guy. Wow this cigarette is good."

    so I guess I'm just gonna ration these cigs until they're gone

    "no just throw those out" "are you crazy, that was 8 dollars. That's like half of your current net worth."

    oh how I wish I hadn't talked so much shit about vapes and burned that bridge

  • Descendant XDescendant X Skyrim is my god now. Outpost 31Registered User regular
    edited June 2019
    oh how I wish I hadn't talked so much shit about vapes and burned that bridge

    And? Just go pick one up. If anyone gives you any shit about having made fun of them in the past, tell them you changed your mind.

    Descendant X on
    Garry: I know you gentlemen have been through a lot, but when you find the time I'd rather not spend the rest of the winter TIED TO THIS FUCKING COUCH!
  • smofsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    Or we can give you even more shit for not vaping, if that would help?

  • Mortal SkyMortal Sky queer punk hedge witchRegistered User regular
    I successfully used vaping as a crutch to get off smoking

    One day my vape box broke down after a hard drop onto a curb and I just accepted that, one or two cocktail cigarettes since but I haven't bought a pack in years now

  • burboburbo Registered User regular
    With my change in jobs two years ago I've been finding that I probably need a lot more of this kind of stuff in my life. I do find myself losing patience more often, or at least I'm noticing it more and allowing it to take a greater toll on my mental well-being. I think my meltdown (so to speak) back in May of 2017 opened up some doors that have yet to be properly examined before I can close them again. I've also been dealing with medical issues over the past year that have gotten to me more than I thought they did - the week before last I left work at noon after receiving more bad(ish) news and took the week off. Those four and a half days did more for my mental health than I can say. It is obvious that I badly needed to take some time for myself that wasn't dictated by anyone or anything.

    I have finally realized after almost 15 years that I respond to a stressful day by feeling nauseated the next morning, which in the past has resulted in me taking the day off and running down my sick days. For example, the day after I left work at noon I spent the day feeling pretty horrible. Last week I was having one of those mornings and tried taking a single Gravol before I went to work and it sorted me right out. Now that I've figured out a treatment for the symptoms I need to figure out to tackle the issue properly.

    My place of work has a lot of resources they offer to employees to manage stress and burnout. Perhaps I should have a look at one of them.

    Like you noticed with your nausea, it's amazing sometimes how much paying attention to how your body feels can give you insight into how your mind is doing, and vice versa.

    That was definitely one of the most useful skills I've worked on developing. If I'm not sure how I'm feeling but I can tell I'm somewhat agitated, then paying attention to what my body is doing is often a big clue.

  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Central OhioRegistered User regular
    Mortal Sky wrote: »
    I successfully used vaping as a crutch to get off smoking

    One day my vape box broke down after a hard drop onto a curb and I just accepted that, one or two cocktail cigarettes since but I haven't bought a pack in years now

    I successfully used a 2 week long sinus infection to quit

    Then stayed quit because my wife got pregnant

    Having a kid makes it super easy to not ever want a smoke again

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  • tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    The last three or four years have systemically eviscerated every emotional reserve I've had, so right now I'm mainly just trying to remember how to be a person. It's a work in progress.

  • DepressperadoDepressperado I just wanted to see you laughing in the pizza rainRegistered User regular
    tynic wrote: »
    The last three or four years have systemically eviscerated every emotional reserve I've had, so right now I'm mainly just trying to remember how to be a person. It's a work in progress.

    you're doing a pretty good job, as far as one can tell via forum posts!

    I'm kinda in the same boat, I spent so long on my grind and lost in syringes that I forgot how to function as a human being with emotions and stuff.

    it's been like, 5 years since I got clean tho! and I think I've gotten better, except for the crippling anxieties and the occasional "oops time to hide in the shower because I'm gonna ugly cry for no reason"

  • burboburbo Registered User regular
    Yeah, you know. Sometimes an ugly cry is just what needs to happen. Who cares if there is a reason. Our emotions are wild and untamed beasts, not everything we feel needs to be figured out.

  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    My problem is I created a larp character to interact with the world outside and for work. It was just very draining to deal with the BS of work both physically and mentally. I know I have not painted anything in nearly 10+ years and it shows as I work on my 40k army once more the skills are coming back slowly and haphazardly.

    as a side one of the people I work with did correctly guess that I was using a larp character and one of my brain spiders pointing out in essence I am a unicorn in that

  • Descendant XDescendant X Skyrim is my god now. Outpost 31Registered User regular
    Brainleech wrote: »
    My problem is I created a larp character to interact with the world outside and for work. It was just very draining to deal with the BS of work both physically and mentally. I know I have not painted anything in nearly 10+ years and it shows as I work on my 40k army once more the skills are coming back slowly and haphazardly.

    as a side one of the people I work with did correctly guess that I was using a larp character and one of my brain spiders pointing out in essence I am a unicorn in that

    Do you have any mental health services available to you through the VA?

    Garry: I know you gentlemen have been through a lot, but when you find the time I'd rather not spend the rest of the winter TIED TO THIS FUCKING COUCH!
  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    Brainleech wrote: »
    My problem is I created a larp character to interact with the world outside and for work. It was just very draining to deal with the BS of work both physically and mentally. I know I have not painted anything in nearly 10+ years and it shows as I work on my 40k army once more the skills are coming back slowly and haphazardly.

    as a side one of the people I work with did correctly guess that I was using a larp character and one of my brain spiders pointing out in essence I am a unicorn in that

    Do you have any mental health services available to you through the VA?

    Yes but I don't talk about it as this is where they were very curious in me sighting what one of my brain spiders is and does as it's what it is and doesn't work in the text book way hence being a unicorn in that

  • burboburbo Registered User regular
    I started reading the book "Designing Your Life". It came highly recommended. It seems that the concept is to apply design principles and mindset to figuring out what you want to do with your life. So that's pretty interesting.

  • Descendant XDescendant X Skyrim is my god now. Outpost 31Registered User regular
    Had to go back on pills to address my anxiety. I’m pretty sure I’m having an attack right now.

    I hope the pills kick in sooner than they did last time I was on them. I feel so sick and scared right now.

    Garry: I know you gentlemen have been through a lot, but when you find the time I'd rather not spend the rest of the winter TIED TO THIS FUCKING COUCH!
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