Moovies! What is the best moovie ever?

DJ Eebs

you know what movie is pretty good? 10 cloverfield lane

Chincymcchilla

Jack and Jill

The only good cloverfield

Shorty

Jack and Jill

Rorshach Kringle wrote: »

Poorochondriac wrote: »

Ringo wrote: »

Poorochondriac wrote: »

Chincymcchilla wrote: »

oh my GOD how have I never heard his philosophy before

From the same interview:

“I feel like in telling stories, there are the things the audience thinks are important, and then there are the things that are actually important.”
Your job as a screenwriter is to take the audience on a ride. It can be an emotional ride or entertaining ride — preferably both. And to accomplish that at a high level, you need to be able to balance the sharing and withholding of information. That’s how you keep the audience guessing.

Misdirects, red herrings, false endings, twists, and turns are the best tools you’ll use as a storyteller. Use them wisely. Use them often. Use them well.

The only thing that matters is twists!

The rationing of information is absolutely the beating heart of story structure

He has phrased it in a mercenary way (as befitting a dude who has existed in massive-budget franchises for most of his career), but he is not actually wrong.

That first paragraph is right

The second one is wrong

Not in an absolute sense, because there is a place for all of those things, but JJ sets the worst example because he uses them too often and not well

But you can't NOT use them and tell a story?

Every major plot beat in forum-favorite Knives Out, for instance, is a misdirect, red herring, false ending, twist, or turn. What he has said is so pedestrian and obvious as to be not really worth saying, arguably, but it isn't unique or wrong

There are so many things to dunk on the dude for that it's weird "Sounds like a bland storytelling 101 textbook when on a press junket" even charts

gotta get mad at the guy who did a bad star wars

This is mega condescending and dismissive

People had problems with his work even before that

DJ Eebs

I liked the original just fine, and I thought the Cloverfield Paradox was agreeably bonkers

but yeah I mean 10 Cloverfield Lane is the only good one

Gustav

I think I would actually like the original Cloverfield if the monster design didn't suck eggs

Sweeney Tom

If the original Cloverfield had like even 20% less shaky camera, I probably would have loved it even with all the other flaws

tynic

I definitely don't wanna say I could direct a better movie than JJ Abrams, blockbuster director extraordinaire

but gimme a couple of hundo and I'll give it a go.

Solar

I think that JJ is usually a flawed creator in his approach and outcomes, but I also think a lot of the criticism of him recently is hyperbolic and performative.

Rorshach Kringle

oh i absolutely could make a movie better than most professional film makers

i just don't want to

Lalabox

Gustav wrote: »

any film dracula without hairy palms is the result of cowardice

dracula jacks off all day in his coffin

Commander Zoom

Scream

Sweeney Tom wrote: »

If the original Cloverfield had like even 20% less shaky camera, I probably would have loved it even with all the other flaws

Nah, you don't want to actually show the audience things! It's much better if you force them to keep guessing and wondering, "Hey, what's that out-of-focus thing behind all the lens flare? It might be important? Maybe?"
IT'S A MYSTERY

Moriveth

Lalabox wrote: »

Gustav wrote: »

any film dracula without hairy palms is the result of cowardice

dracula jacks off all day in his coffin

Okay so is he just really into edging or is the underside of the coffin lid fucking filthy

Undead Scottsman

Howard the Duck

Cloverfield Paradox is one of the few times where I was upset at myself for watching something. Like, not even really mad at the film, just mad I was giving it the time of day instead of doing anything else.

That movie is basically "Here's {CONCEPT}, we're going to have wacky stuff happen because of {CONCEPT} but have no internal consistency over WHAT {CONCEPT} can actually do, so any time we want something random and nonsensical to happen, we just need to point back to {CONCEPT} rather actually try to be comprehensible."

DJ Eebs

Lalabox wrote: »

Gustav wrote: »

any film dracula without hairy palms is the result of cowardice

dracula jacks off all day in his coffin

yeah I mean how else is he gonna open the lid

Rorshach Kringle

draculas don't actually need to sleep, they just gotta crank they hogs for 8 hours a day, every day, or they'll die

the coffin is to hide their shame in this daily ritual

Gustav

Cloverfield Paradox is like a Doctor Who episode in the bad ways

Centipede Damascus

Gustav wrote: »

I think I would actually like the original Cloverfield if the monster design didn't suck eggs

why is Neville Page allowed to do what he does

Gustav

Centipede Damascus wrote: »

Gustav wrote: »

I think I would actually like the original Cloverfield if the monster design didn't suck eggs

why is Neville Page allowed to do what he does

he must be very pleasant and always turns in work early

Chincymcchilla

Jack and Jill

Gustav wrote: »

Centipede Damascus wrote: »

Gustav wrote: »

I think I would actually like the original Cloverfield if the monster design didn't suck eggs

why is Neville Page allowed to do what he does

he must be very pleasant and always turns in work early

Well yeah cause he owns a photocopier

Moriveth

Rorshach Kringle wrote: »

draculas don't actually need to sleep, they just gotta crank they hogs for 8 hours a day, every day, or they'll die

the coffin is to hide their shame in this daily ritual

I never knew it, but apparently I'm a vampire

ph blake

More creators should respect the source material and have Dracula scurry up walls like a lizard.

I feel like this is a criminally underrepresented aspect of Dracula's character.

Undead Scottsman

Howard the Duck

Having to masturbate for 8 hours a day, every day, for the rest of eternity sounds like one of those ironic hells.

Lalabox

if you jack off too much youll turn into a dracula

Poorochondriac

If you drac off too much you turn into a jackula

Chincymcchilla

Jack and Jill

Poorochondriac wrote: »

If you drac off too much you turn into a jackula

Gustav

you cant make me click that

darunia106

Air Bud

Don't worry.

It's a picture.

You can't click it.

It can't hurt you.

Chincymcchilla

Jack and Jill

I googled Jackula

Chincymcchilla

Jack and Jill

I wish I didnt

Jedoc

Howard the Duck

Moriveth wrote: »

Lalabox wrote: »

Gustav wrote: »

any film dracula without hairy palms is the result of cowardice

dracula jacks off all day in his coffin

Okay so is he just really into edging or is the underside of the coffin lid fucking filthy

I mean, the dude wears all black and never seems to change his clothes, he can't just lay prone while whippin' off a batch and expect to be sinister the next night without some serious laundry.

Rorshach Kringle

if you lead an elite group of scientists into the desert to develop a top secret project, known as "quantum leap"and are pressured to prove your theories or lose funding, and prematurely step into the project accelerator and vanish; awakening to find yourself in the past, suffering from partial amnesia and facing a mirror image that is not your own but contact with your own time is made through brainwave transmissions with al, the project observer, who appears in the form of a hologram that only you can see and hear too much, you turn into a bakula

Fencingsax

Chincymcchilla wrote: »

I googled Jackula

Chincymcchilla wrote: »

I wish I didnt

The entirety of the internet experience in 2 posts.

Quetzi

Jedoc wrote: »

Moriveth wrote: »

Lalabox wrote: »

Gustav wrote: »

any film dracula without hairy palms is the result of cowardice

dracula jacks off all day in his coffin

Okay so is he just really into edging or is the underside of the coffin lid fucking filthy

I mean, the dude wears all black and never seems to change his clothes, he can't just lay prone while whippin' off a batch and expect to be sinister the next night without some serious laundry.

He's a vampire, obviously he's got black cum

Moriveth

Dig through the ditches and burn through the witches and slam in the back of my

JACK ULAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Rorshach Kringle

we have finally evolved past sippin' jack

Lalabox

when you dig through the ditches, and burn through the witches, you slam in the back of your dragula

Garlic Bread

Rorshach Kringle wrote: »

we have finally evolved past sippin' jack

Sippin' jack is forever

Chincymcchilla

Jack and Jill

Gustav wrote: »

you cant make me click that

Gus weve had our differences but I'd never fuckin do that to you bud

Fencingsax

Rorshach Kringle wrote: »

if you lead an elite group of scientists into the desert to develop a top secret project, known as "quantum leap"and are pressured to prove your theories or lose funding, and prematurely step into the project accelerator and vanish; awakening to find yourself in the past, suffering from partial amnesia and facing a mirror image that is not your own but contact with your own time is made through brainwave transmissions with al, the project observer, who appears in the form of a hologram that only you can see and hear too much, you turn into a bakula

This was a journey.

Brainleech

Lalabox wrote: »

Gustav wrote: »

any film dracula without hairy palms is the result of cowardice

dracula jacks off all day in his coffin

Or he is a collector of more esoteric items