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Keeping a secret thats really big deal.

HorusHorus Los AngelesRegistered User regular
edited June 2007 in Help / Advice Forum
History

In October of 2006 my cousin was diagnosed with lung cancer. She did her treatments (kimo, radiation and medicinal) and also join a support group to help know the doctors are doing the right thing. She is very strong, she will be laughing and joking on days she had her kimo. With all this shes attending college being 18.

Present
I help her out alot, take her out and do things to make her enjoy life and basically get her out of her boredom since shes at home alot. Well we talk alot in aim and stuff, well this Friday she told me that since early this year the doctors told her that no treatment was working for her. The cancer was not being affected with anything that was given to. I am the only person in the family who knows this, not even her mom knows her current health situation. She even asked me to help her out with a scrapbook to give out when the time comes which is her wish from me and her friend.

Reason for Secrecy
She told me the reason she did not tell her family (only me and her best friend know this) is because shes already being treated as cancer is contagious or seen as a corpse. To be honest shes not exaggerating, some people talk to her as though shes retarded, this is withing the family. She just thinks that if people think her treatment is going well they will be positive around her, if they knew the reality she will get negative vibes and she wants all the positivity she can get. She wants to enjoy life to the fullest and not be in drama or depressive moments.

My problem
Honestly I am crying at nights, just knowing the truth but holding something that big is like crazy. I am respecting her wishes even if it causes drama on my end. I have her trust right now she doesnt want to waste time me breaking that trust. I jsut need to vent this information because I cannot handle this in me.
I don't know what to ask but just wanted people to hear me out and maybe help me somehow if possible how to do the best.

Just writing all this is helping me calm down and be able to give positive vibe for my cousin.

PS.
Current family problems shes having is her brother is getting married. Shes fighting with him because he wants her to pay or help out in the wedding. Remind you that she cant work and is struggling student making enough to pay for school. Now she had drama with her brother and their mom is backing up her son, now you know why she doesnt want to tell her family. She really has a grudge with her family which she just told me now as I write this, I never knew about.

Anyway thanks for just reading this I know i wrote this very emotional but just needed to get this off my chest for just 5 minutes.

Thank You

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  • RookRook Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I read this, just so you know. Hope you know you're doing a good thing.

    And wow is that brother an ass.

    Rook on
  • witch_iewitch_ie Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I'm guessing it's going to get harder for you to keep this secret as time goes on as well. While writing to us on the forums might help for now (and that's great), you might also think about asking your cousin if you could confide in a close friend (yours not hers), just to help you cope. Hopefully this could be someone that it wouldn't matter if they knew, as in they wouldn't treat her differently. Also, I think they do have support groups for friends and families of those with terminal illnesses as well. You might try looking into those. Good luck and way to support your cousin!

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  • phoxphyrephoxphyre Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    And wow is that brother an ass.

    Limed for truth... Dear god.

    I'm so sorry dude. My long-time boyfriend lost his mother to cancer just last year, and it was not pleasant. Please accept my sympathy for the next wee while.

    Vent as needed, and grit your teeth at the idiots. Smile as much as you can, sometimes that's the only thing you can do when something of this magnitude hits.

    Give your cousin a hug.

    And take a digital camera ;)

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  • JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Starting Defense Place at the tableRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Why on earth would an assumptively younger sister pay for part of a brother's wedding? The sister of the groom has a minimal social obligation there. Like show up, maybe.

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  • CorvusCorvus . VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Its a tough rode supporting a family member with cancer, I did it for years. That said, its not really fair of your cousin to ask you to keep this sort of thing a secret. Its the sort of thing that really needs to be talked about. She has you to to talk to, but you need someone to talk to as well, and need support yourself.

    That brother is complete asshole though.

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  • DaemonionDaemonion Mountain Man USARegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Your strength will positively affect your cousin in ways you might not ever know. Don't let up.

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    As much as this may upset you keep in mind this is letting her live as normal life as she can at the moment. It is making your cousins life a little better by confiding in you. Keep this with you. Discusion with a close friend (with her permision) may also help.

    Also you could personally go to the older brother and tell him to stop being a dick.

    I mean get her to pay for part of the wedding? Fuck off, nowdays you are lucky if the parents chip in let alone your sister. Does he expect the rest of the people to bring cash as well as presents?

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  • UnderdogUnderdog Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Blaket wrote: »
    As much as this may upset you keep in mind this is letting her live as normal life as she can at the moment. It is making your cousins life a little better by confiding in you. Keep this with you. Discusion with a close friend (with her permision) may also help.

    Also you could personally go to the older brother and tell him to stop being a dick.

    I mean get her to pay for part of the wedding? Fuck off, nowdays you are lucky if the parents chip in let alone your sister. Does he expect the rest of the people to bring cash as well as presents?

    Well that happened a lot at my cousin's wedding this past summer BUT it was limited to the adults (i.e. people with steady jobs). But that's messed up. I've never heard of the sister of the groom being required to chip in for the wedding. Do they not have the money in the first place? Here's some advice for them then. Downsize the wedding. Don't spend money you don't have. Selfish assholes.

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  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    The only way the brother thing makes any sense is if she's in the wedding party and has to buy a bridesmaid's dress. But still an ass for not thinking things through.

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  • HorusHorus Los AngelesRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Blaket wrote: »
    I mean get her to pay for part of the wedding? Fuck off, nowadays you are lucky if the parents chip in let alone your sister. Does he expect the rest of the people to bring cash as well as presents?



    Shes not in the wedding at all because she cant commit due to her health. Also my cousin, her brother, is calling everyone to pay for his wedding. I like to call it as getting the down payment from everyone for his house, something like that. Yeah I am pissed off he got me too, with wedding invitations we agreed I will design the copy but he told my parents I am buying everything thats $500-700 bucks. I am still looking for him but hes MIA.

    As for the bride, she ran away from her parents, so I bet they do not want to pay at all. My cousin is doing like fast wedding not sure why. He is living with his parents with the soon to be and will be like that after the marriage. He is very strange, well he change from what I use to know him, the day his grandma died he was happy because of the $$$$. Sad it is but I believe in karma.

    Everyone in the family is pissed off at him and probably my aunt (his mom) for thinking this is acceptable to do. Also they want to have LIVE BAND and top of the line room for the party!!!!!

    My cousin told me she is not attending the wedding because she does not approve how he is doing things, also because he did not support her during times of sickness as in take her to the hospital. Shes mad because he is telling shes selfish over this.

    Conclusion,

    I really cant believe the response I got, guys honestly you really help me a lot. Don't understand how this sharing of my life on the internet(ironic) is helping me be stronger and be there for my cousin.

    Thank You

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  • MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Is that boy on drugs? If you can't afford a wedding, just get a certificate at City Hall and do an anniversary wedding later. Jesus.

    Your cousin should just stop talking to him.

    About your cousin. Tell her how much the pressure is affecting you, and try to work out other family members you COULD tell, that wouldn't treat her like a pariah for having cancer. But what you are doing is very noble, helping her make the most of her time while she has it.

    Her whole family sounds messed up though.

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  • SliverSliver Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Horus, it sounds like you're the one that needs a support group.

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  • BabsBabs Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    you might also think about asking your cousin if you could confide in a close friend (yours not hers), just to help you cope

    I'm going to strongly support that suggestion. It's obviously a pain for you to not have anyone to talk about his. It would help a lot.

    Note on the wedding part : hah. if he thinks pouring money is going to make it better, he's in for a surprise. For a small side story, one of my best friend who had no money whatsoever actually just went for the City Hall thing, and then invited everyone to the japanese restaurant next to where he lives.

    Due to the fact that he had been able to reunite both families for a long time, it was one of the best i've attented.

    Money != win.

    Babs on
  • FawkesFawkes __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2007
    re: the brother, you should really just tell him to fuck off via your wallet, and you should encourage the rest of your family to do the same. If he expects you to pay $500-$700 to make his invitations, just say no. Design the copy like you agreed, and no more. If you can, get any of your family who disagree with this blatent pickpocketing to do the same (shouldn't be too hard, I can't see many people being happy at that situation) - voluntary presents yes, paying for their wedding no. If they disagree but are going along with it anyway, then honestly they seriously lack cahones, it's totally fucking unacceptable behaviour.

    Mass disapproval & witholding of cash from the rest of your family will make it much harder for them to hit on your cousin for it, and at the very least make her feel vindicated.

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  • Omnicron9999Omnicron9999 Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I agree with everybody here about the brother. No...just, no.

    I also think it would be a good idea to encourage her to include a few more people with this secret. I'm sure it would take a bit of the burden of this off of the both of you.

    And really, good job man. I have known many people with cancer (two grandfathers, one grandmother, cousins, uncles, and friends) good support seems to help more than chemo, radiation, or any other treatment.



    If you don't think she'd mind, let her know that a bunch of random people from the internet are thinking about her.

    :)

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  • SudsSuds Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    That's a really big secret to hold on to, especially since it seems like she isn't going to get better.

    Personally I'd talk to her and tell her that her parents need to know, and that you can't keep a thing like this to yourself. Not to sound like an ass, but imagine the hot water you'd be in after she's gone and everyone finds out that you knew her time was limited all along?

    I'm not sure what her plans are, but blind siding her family with something like this isn't a great thing to do.

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  • misbehavinmisbehavin Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I'm sorry I don't have more advice to offer, but I hope this passes as help: You are a hero. You may not realize it, but you are likely her only outlet and by preserving her secret, you are probably helping her live a little longer and a lot better. I hope you realize that!

    I believe in Karma... You have a lot of good things coming up in your life!

    I know you can't tell her, but it might be enough to know that I, and probably a lot of people here, are praying for her and have her in our thoughts.

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  • SerphimeraSerphimera Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    misbehavin wrote: »
    I'm sorry I don't have more advice to offer, but I hope this passes as help: You are a hero. You may not realize it, but you are likely her only outlet and by preserving her secret, you are probably helping her live a little longer and a lot better. I hope you realize that!

    I believe in Karma... You have a lot of good things coming up in your life!

    I know you can't tell her, but it might be enough to know that I, and probably a lot of people here, are praying for her and have her in our thoughts.
    Absolutely.

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  • Disturbed_1Disturbed_1 Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I know what you mean by this man. I had bone cancer when i was 11. But its her wish that you keep it a secret. You have to help her out with what ever she asks. I know its hard and very pain full but you gotta keep fighting. Talk to her friend and her about it and that might help too.

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  • arcatharcath Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    misbehavin wrote: »
    I'm sorry I don't have more advice to offer, but I hope this passes as help: You are a hero. You may not realize it, but you are likely her only outlet and by preserving her secret, you are probably helping her live a little longer and a lot better. I hope you realize that!

    I believe in Karma... You have a lot of good things coming up in your life!

    I know you can't tell her, but it might be enough to know that I, and probably a lot of people here, are praying for her and have her in our thoughts.

    I cant really add anything to this. Its all been said.

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  • HiredGunHiredGun Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    misbehavin wrote: »
    I'm sorry I don't have more advice to offer, but I hope this passes as help: You are a hero. You may not realize it, but you are likely her only outlet and by preserving her secret, you are probably helping her live a little longer and a lot better. I hope you realize that!

    With things like this, it doesn't hurt to repeat the lime-age a few times. You have already shown a great deal of strength, you are a true friend to your cousin, and I wish you the continued courage to stay by her side.

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  • Werewolf GamerWerewolf Gamer Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Hey Man so sorry to hear about your cousin. The brother though is an ass. I can't believe he'd ask her for money especially for a wedding.
    My brother has Colon Cancer and has been fighting it for over a year now. The Chemo treatments leave you sick and tired and you can't work. He had to file for bankruptcy and everything. Money is the last thing your cousin needs to be worrying about right now.
    On a side note you are really doing great being there for her. There's always hope. My brother's situation started to get worse for awhile there. He had lost so much weight and wasn't doing so hot. They switched doctors and clinics for treatment and he likes his new place much better. They are watching him more carefully and most importantly giving him hope. His last Dr. said there wasn't much they could do except make him comfortable. They were shitheads. His new Dr. had said that's crap, Your young and we're going to fight this. Hope goes a long way. We found out about a month ago my brother is now in full remission! He's getting his last doses of Chemo and things look bright. So please if there's anything you can do is just be there to support your cousin and continue to give her hope.

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  • JihadJesusJihadJesus Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Having lost a family member to cancer, the situation you describe makes me want to climg through my computer screen and slap that entire family upside the head. Cancer is enough to fuck with even the strongest person and strain the strongest family, and it sounds like you're pretty much the only caring, supportive family she has. You may not save her life, but I'm sure she'll thank you for making what life she has brighter.

    You need support, too. You're doing a wonderful thing for her, but it's not something you can keep up without cracking. Let her know you understand why it needs to stay behind the scenes for now, and that you'll help her all you can, but that you can't keep it up without having someone you can count on as well.

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  • HybridHybrid South AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Maybe there is also someone you can talk to about the situation and get support from them, someone who doesnt know any of the parties involved or have anything to do with them? Just a thought.

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  • FalloutFallout GIRL'S DAY WAS PRETTY GOOD WHILE THEY LASTEDRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    You are a good dude, Horus.

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  • FalhurkFalhurk Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I just wanted to say that your cousin is very lucky to have a cousin/friend like you.

    In addition.. I think her brother needs a severe kick to the nuts.

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  • HorusHorus Los AngelesRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I just want to thank everyone for just hearing me out and basically vent some way. Its really hard keeping this information, right now we are getting ready to take pictures for her scrap book. Her brother is even more of an ass, he spent money to go camping knowing out right it should go to the wedding. Also found out he ruined his dad (whose bed ridden with diabetes) credit because he was in charge of the financial situation that now my cousin is taking over it and I am worried whose else will take over when if the inevitable happens. I just cant believe how he became. But that is life, and I want to thank you all about this. I am contacting support groups to find one thats local and is there for me. I also contacted a friend from college who I think is safe to talk to without someone spilling the information.

    Thank you once again.

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