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Pirates of the Caribbean
Elki
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At World's End, yes. The plot is pretty meh (crosses and double-crosses, as per the PotC norm), but Johnny saves it, and I loved it.
The hallucinatory scene where Jack makes his debut is made of win and awesome. The later one isn't as good, but still pretty good.
I was disappointed with Calypso; all that trouble and what happens in end? Rain?!
I was disappointed with Calypso; all that trouble and what happens in end? Rain?!
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Really? Why?
Better Jack moments.
I guess that's fair if you're only interested in the one character and not a quality moviegoing experience.
Yes.
Well considering Jack is the movie...
Good to know, thanks.
This trilogy trend is really bothering me. I like things that can stand on their own.
Hardly. Even the "Jack moments" weren't very funny IMO.
Johnny Depp was awesome of course.
I thought Geoffrey Rush made an awesome batshit insane pirate (of course that could just be my Australianism skewering that opinion).
Kiera Knightlys character was frankly shithouse and contrived.
Finally, they should have done more with Orlando Blooms character, his arc seemed rushed.
It deserved my money, but the first one is still my fav.
They managed to finish it up nicely.
Plus... Keith Richards.
edit: and yes, Geoffrey Rush does indeed make a wonderful insane Pirate. He was as into his character as Depp was it seemed.
What's new? God, that King Arthur movie pissed me off.
The whole film looked amazing... the final sea battle, you genuinely did not know where to look because there was so much cool shit going on.
Keith Richards. Fully expected him to be shit... he was great!
Barbossa as the quintessential mad bastard pirate. They brought him back and he didn't disappoint me.
Davy Jones' arc. I really felt for him by the end.
Really liked the opening scene with the singing. Quite well done I thought.
The multiple Sparrows, especially when they made it clear he was just fucking talking to himself
The general sense of fun throughout...
The ending. Will becomes the captain of the Dutchman, Barbossa gets the Pearl back (YES!), and Sparrow ends up back where he started, alone in a tiny boat with a new treasure to chase.
Stuff I didn't like:
Really, really wish they'd shown the death of the Kraken.
Would have liked more Davy Jones, he seemed rather absent in the first hour or so of the film.
And apparently Depp has signed up for Pirates 4... I'm hoping they make it a one-off ala Curse of The Black Pearl, completely self-contained, hopefully
Jack and Barbossa race to find the Fountain of Youth, Will makes a cameo as captain of the Dutchman, but not as a main character
the first hour or so, the sets or locations were incredible. absolutely incredible.
That said, I did laugh several times as well as experience a good deal of "Awesome." moments.
I could have done with a bit less of either Pintel or Ragetti (whichever one is the bald one), but it seemed that the rest of the characters had decent endings, and they worked well together.
The piratey feel was definitely there - especially Shipwreck Cove with its amazing design, and the odd bits of nautical folklore - incidentally, has anybody ever seen the Green Flash? A captain I once knew told me about it a few years ago, but I've never seen it.
I kind of hope that there isn't another movie - unless it was done incredibly well, it would just seem tacked on to the franchise.
As an aside, we had a Transformers trailer before the film, which was crap - far too choppy and only about thirty seconds long. The only decent part was a neak peek at Optimus Prime's vehicular form, but otherwise it would not have appealed to me had I not seen the previous trailers.
Though...
And yeah... this movie would be a good ending place, for real. If there is a #4, it'd have to be fan-fucking-tastic, or it would just be stupid.
I think what bothered me most was the complete lack of emotional impact of the two major deaths: Norrington and Governor Swan. They were just footnotes; 2 minutes after the scene, it ceased being relevant. I really didn't care for the ending, either. At least as far as Will and Elizabeth were concerned. What bummer.
That said, the Flying Dutchman and the Black Pearl vs. the Endeavour? Awesome! And I thought Rush and Depp were fantastic, as usual.
Liked the ending as well, left it open for a sequel (gee whiz who didn't see that coming) but without any major cliff hangers.
Variable said this, and he's right: Pirates is best viewed in the same frame of mind that many of us probably watch the Indiana Jones movies. You don't go into them seeking a commentary on man's plight in the changing social landscape...you go to see pirates jumping around swinging swords while monkies, zombies, and midgets all pop up to keep you on your toes.
Given those parameters, Pirates 3 delivers.
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I didn't mind Elizabeth in this one as much as the last two.
Too many plot elements that intertwined, so it didn't give any weight to anything:
Davey Jones & Calypso went nowhere, which is a shame because I liked both of the characters. Giant Calypso was kind of O_o
East India Trading company made a good overall "bad guy" but there wasn't too much motive there. Just "see? they're bad. They hung a kid and all these lovable pirates"
After all that time, Davey Jones just killed the admiral (even while the canons were still pointed at his heart, iirc). Why didn't he do this sooner?
Even after Davey Jones's crew killed the EITC the EITC were with them when they boarded the Pearl during the last fight.
I liked Will Turner's plot, I wish they had done more to advance it along in the 2nd movie instead of rushed it in this movie.
I didn't quite understand the Sparrow / Turner trade during the small island parlay. Turner still betrayed the entire pirate population, so I don't see what was accomplished there.
Holy crap the pirates from around the world were AWESOME. I loved the regional clothes and stereotypical characters and ship designs. The makeup and costume work in this movie is second to none. I loved the Persian pirate with the crazy huge beard and high voice.
I agree with Norrington/Governer Swan. They were MAJOR characters in the first one, and Norrington was even pretty important in #2. He was almost a cameo in the 3rd. Very disappointing. I was wishing with Elizabeth that he'd finally decide on being a pirate so I could see him in full pirate gear. I'd love to see him captain a ship like the Interceptor again.
I guess I'm alone, but I thought the parts with multiple Jacks (other than the very first scene) were stupid. Especially the little Jacks on his shoulders.
All in all I'd say the movie suffered from "too much". Visually, though, it was stunning. The sense of scale was absolutely IMMENSE. I'm also pleased I could follow the fight scenes as well as I could.
The ending was perfect, though. Bittersweet, and most everything coming full circle. Barbossa with the Pearl and Jack back on his sailboat, down on his luck. Will Turner made a fantastic pirate.
edit - spoiler is about Will.
There were so many twists and turns you weren't ever certain who was up to what, or who you wanted to root for.
Not to mention it felt like a complete "story" this time around since it had a conclusion. My one gripe with Pirates 2 was that there was all this buildup and then "Tune in next year, Same Pirate time! Same Pirate Channel!"
My only question is this:
Just a little thing they probably should've thought off. You know, being pirates and thinking outside the box a little bit.
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Hm. I must've missed that (don't know how, as I saw the second one in theaters twice and on DVD thrice more. I'll have to go back and find it.
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I know, there's 10 million potential explanations, but that oversight just bothers me
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The rest of it was
2.) Jack doesn't get the Pearl back
3.) the film (sorta) leaves you hanging at the end
4.) they killed off some of our favorite characters (governor Swan! NO!)
5.) the film was a lot darker and grittier than that first one
I'd like to know though, are their reasons justified?
I think it begins at the part where Jack gives Will the compass and throws him overboard. They are both working together to manipulate everyone. A second viewing will probably make it clearer, but at the end, they were playing both sides. Jack needed to be on the Dutchman, to get the heart. Up until Will was forced to stab the heart, Jack was planning on doing it himself.
Also, about the pirate lords..
Edit:
Also, did anyone else think this?
Now that's what I thought.
I also like how the movie came full circle. Mr. Gibs goes back to booze-drinking and life as a slob, Barbossa's and Jack's rivalry will just keep on going, and now Jack is right back in a dinghy with a magic compass and a treasure on his mind.
Enough about my family gripes, what I loved was
Loved it, will definitely get the entire trilogy when it comes out in one boxset and laugh at my siblings for their movie tastes.
Oh yeah, totally agree. I also really liked..